Quote Originally Posted by Z71StarsNBarsZ71
that's prolly it and i have a buddy that used to be a chef and a personal trainer and was in the army and said he loved the stuff
I'd still avoid Muscle-Tech products period, they're one of those companies thats more about advertising and sucking people in rather than actually delivering on their claims. The only product they have that I've heard mostly good things about is Thermogain. But if you want something that's gonna do what Pump-Tech claims to to then either go with:

Vitargo-CGL from Nutrex
http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=445
or

Swole V2 from Syntrax
http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=689
I can say from experience that the Swole V2 works great and Nutrex makes some damn good supplements that work. I'd go for the Vitargo-CGL personally.