Originally Posted by kayfuNk
Just because i like tony jaa doesn't mean I want to learn Muay Boran, it just means he is a bad ass! I have some experience with Muay Boran, Muay thai is just a glorified version but legal in the ring. not all muay boran moves are!
i know, i meant the other guy that knows every other martial art on the planet at age 17.Just because i like tony jaa doesn't mean I want to learn Muay Boran, it just means he is a bad ass! I have some experience with Muay Boran, Muay thai is just a glorified version but legal in the ring. not all muay boran moves are!
i like tony jaa cause of his moves. if i can find a school for muay boran i'd go, but my old teacher taught a bunch of moves that had muay boran tied in.
Yeah i noticed. . .But who knows? Im not doubting the kid, He hasn't mastered a specific style, he just knows bits and pieces of the styles. . . It works, I guess? But best of luck to him and his adventures.
kungfu/muaythai is all i need. knowing how to get outta stuff and keep off the ground and not getting thrown is good enough for me. there's nothing to master, when you fight outside the ring there's no real style anyways.Yeah i noticed. . .
Oh no, your right! There isn't a style at all! People just fucking flail like fish, and hope to knock each other out.. .. .. It sickening really! But when i say technique i mean it, Without it the moves you learn will not be near as effective as far as accuracy, power, and speed goes! You would just look stupid doing it!
that why i think you should focus on learning the proper technique for each move, A lot of practice should suffice! But keep up all the hard work and maybe, just maybe we will meet in the ring?
i could tell you you'd beat me. i dont have much experience in the ring. was too young and too small to do anything besides the occasional sparring with the bro's. plus i can't take a hit xD.Oh no, your right! There isn't a style at all! People just fucking flail like fish, and hope to knock each other out.. .. .. It sickening really! But when i say technique i mean it, Without it the moves you learn will not be near as effective as far as accuracy, power, and speed goes! You would just look stupid doing it!
that why i think you should focus on learning the proper technique for each move, A lot of practice should suffice! But keep up all the hard work and maybe, just maybe we will meet in the ring?
Well in the ring you can look as graceful as you want and preform all the right techniques, but if you can't take a hit then i would step in the ring. . . It would make you look pathetic. . . Im not bashing you or anything, but I've been in the ring with people that can't take hits! Im talking like round 1 knockouts! two in less than a minute! They look stupid being knocked out so damn fast! I've fought against some TKD guys that were really good with there "pretty kicks" but they couldn't take a hit for shit! so it was a easy match once you get inside of them!
This is what i always did to get used to blocking and taking hits, spar with someone and let them beat the shit out of you! don't hit them back, just block! You wont be able to stop all of them! Thats how you learn to take a hit, and as far as body shots go, thats just training! Lots of training! Give it a shot! trust me on this, it works! If you don't trust me on anything else, please trust me when it comes to fighting!
tkd was my least favorite because of their "point sparring" system. it was retarded cause you never had a chance to counter anything. maybe im just saying i can't take a hit cause i usually spar with my older bigger bro's and they hit hard. body shots im fine, but like i said. you have more experience. in the ring then i do.Well in the ring you can look as graceful as you want and preform all the right techniques, but if you can't take a hit then i would step in the ring. . . It would make you look pathetic. . . Im not bashing you or anything, but I've been in the ring with people that can't take hits! Im talking like round 1 knockouts! two in less than a minute! They look stupid being knocked out so damn fast! I've fought against some TKD guys that were really good with there "pretty kicks" but they couldn't take a hit for shit! so it was a easy match once you get inside of them!
This is what i always did to get used to blocking and taking hits, spar with someone and let them beat the shit out of you! don't hit them back, just block! You wont be able to stop all of them! Thats how you learn to take a hit, and as far as body shots go, thats just training! Lots of training! Give it a shot! trust me on this, it works! If you don't trust me on anything else, please trust me when it comes to fighting!
Im not calling you out or anything. . . Im was just stating that it takes time to train to take hits bro! thats all! Im giving you myand if you chose to take them than fine. . . but if not, then thats ok too! Im just giving you some advice.
i wish i had time to train. i've been out a year now. getting ready for college this fall and then trying to get some steady money. being a waiter sucks cause i don't have a steady schedule. if i could, i'd go to ALLIANCE gym with my buddy and take BJJ with their muay thai.
Yeah i have been considering Alliance. . . But IDK, It's a little too far for me to drive. And time isn't easy to come by now-a-days!
its about 10 minutes from me.
Lucky ass. . . It's about 45 for me!
^^^ Hey bro, How have you been? So i finally got on IA. What, You gave me this SN like... 3 months ago? I really don't remember? Oh and are you coming in tonight? I haven't seen you in a couple of weeks. Are you training on a regular basis? Because we are leaving in about a month now buddy! Are you ready?
I've been good, I have just been taking a break trying to get my hatch running. It's not even cool. So what are you changing the SN to? Oh and i noticed you took my Avatar and my old Sig pic. . . douche. . .
Man I'm really surprised that no one has named any of the top gyms besides Alliance and Knuckle Up. Some other good gyms are Unit 2, Hardknoxs, Hardcore Gym and Paul Creighton MMA.
Most of the real fighters aound come from these camps.
does anyone know of a guy named "eddie" (sp) my brother told me he was probably the best bjj teacher in atlanta.
Good man
not offense but come to alliance gym and id like to see you try to stay off the ground when you go up against one of our more experienced fighters.
You'll be on your ass with your legs spread faster than a blonde on a roofie.
Well in the ring you can look as graceful as you want and preform all the right techniques, but if you can't take a hit then i would step in the ring. . . It would make you look pathetic. . . Im not bashing you or anything, but I've been in the ring with people that can't take hits! Im talking like round 1 knockouts! two in less than a minute! They look stupid being knocked out so damn fast! I've fought against some TKD guys that were really good with there "pretty kicks" but they couldn't take a hit for shit! so it was a easy match once you get inside of them!
This is what i always did to get used to blocking and taking hits, spar with someone and let them beat the shit out of you! don't hit them back, just block! You wont be able to stop all of them! Thats how you learn to take a hit, and as far as body shots go, thats just training! Lots of training! Give it a shot! trust me on this, it works! If you don't trust me on anything else, please trust me when it comes to fighting!
HAHA i remember fighting TDK guys... just work their legs when they try to do a spinning back kick.. or even a side kick.. they whip their leg and don't follow through, their kicks sting more than hurt.. i usually ended those matches within the first round.
Best BJJ school in this country is Alliance and the best teacher is jacare. Period.
Alliance has put out more champions for NAGA and national events than any other gym in the country.
and just represented Abu Dahbi with a guy named Chris Moriarty that trains at the Alliance Sandy Springs Location.
you cannot learn better BJJ anywhere else in this country.
Jacare received his black belt directly from Rolls Gracie the founder of the whole gracie BJJ tradition and in many respects was his only equal or challenge on the mat.
Yeah how true! I've been know to throw a few pretty kicks in my time.I love the spinning hook kick! One of the most painful strikes you will ever feel if it makes contact! That heel hurts. I don't do it all the time, I do it pretty damn fast too, It's hard to see coming. A lot of times i will throw a few on purpose and not hit the other guy, and once they get used to ducking it, I throw one low to the sternum! LOL! It works most of the time. Of course i have been tackled while in the middle of it. I only use that strat in full contact standing rules. But i love the side kick one of the most effective kicks if landed correctly!
How much are classes for Alliance? I've been really eager to go there but knuckle up is a lot close. I really don't want to go back to knuckle up. . .
Yeah how true! I've been know to throw a few pretty kicks in my time.
hahahaha, i've had soo many TDK guys trying to spinning hook kick me, i just take their foot out from under than or kick them in the back of the knee or my personal favorite, move forward and take the shot with their calf going into your rib which is pleasent if anything, and then grab their leg with your arm and start working their leg until it gives out on them and they hop around like a hurt puppy.
How much are classes for Alliance? I've been really eager to go there but knuckle up is a lot close. I really don't want to go back to knuckle up. . .
$120 a month for just BJJ.. 150 i believe for the dual package bjj and muay thai.
you can go 6 days a week twice a day if you're that dedicated and your body can handle it.. which it probably can't, LOL.
If you take BJJ we also offer a MMA class for anyone interested in it for FREE as long as you're part of the BJJ.
Yeah but Im not TKD.
Let me rephrase that. My favorite kick would be the pulling spinning hook kick. That thing works some magic if landed! But like i said, If landed. Of course that isn't going to be the first thing i open with. But a lot of these guys now a days aren't trained to stop high kicks. They just sit there and stare at it like its some pretty light!
If you are really good and accurate with your kicks then you can dominate a match if you are really aggressive with them! I've knocked out countless people by being on the attacking side with kicks! They are magical weapons when used correctly.
Thanks, but you can be pretty damn cocky. . . I wander why? And what makes you think I wouldn't be able to handle it? I've been training for a long time now and I always set aside time to do hard body training! And extreme cardio workouts as well. Im probably in better shape than you anyways. But 120 is a bit steep for BJJ. Even if he is one of the best in the world. You learn most of the same shit from any other instructor, Its the person learning the techniques is what really matters. Not saying he is useless. But a little too much for me.
but of course :]Yeah but Im not TKD.
Let me rephrase that. My favorite kick would be the pulling spinning hook kick. That thing works some magic if landed! But like i said, If landed. Of course that isn't going to be the first thing i open with. But a lot of these guys now a days aren't trained to stop high kicks. They just sit there and stare at it like its some pretty light!
If you are really good and accurate with your kicks then you can dominate a match if you are really aggressive with them! I've knocked out countless people by being on the attacking side with kicks! They are magical weapons when used correctly.
So what do you train in? Muay Thai or BJJ? Both?
It's on the Southside of town in Mcdonough off of Highway 42. I currentlly train BJJ and MMA there. We have 2 guys fighting this Saturday down by the Florida line.Good man
Muay thai for 7 years and BJJ just recently started..
^^^ kool.
I hope I don't come off to cocky but to all the people who discredit the gound game you really need to rethink your game plan. I mean do you know that over 70% of fights end up on the ground. How many one kick, pressure point, punches do you really see. If you watch any kind of real fighting Pride, UFC, WEC etc... you will see just how important the ground game is. If you have a bad ground game you better have one hell of a sprawl (like Chuck Lidell) if not YOU WILL eventually go down and then you're screwed. There is no better example of this then in the early 90's when Royce Gracie dominated everyone for years because they were so confident in their striking ability or whatever style that they used they refused to learn any BJJ and got whooped. I think to be a great fighter you need to know BJJ and a mix of kickboxing/Muay Thai, boxing and wrestiling. All that other stuff is just a bunch of junk to me and it's provin to be ineffective in the cage.
i didnt read your entire post but i think i got the jist of it...
in a real fight and or UFC/PRIDE if you dont know ground game you're going to get ruined.
Who said i was against it? If you are talking to me? Im currently learning Judo. My old Karate Instructor knows it well. Im not bashing the whole ground game, I love ground fighting, I just Prefer stand up. Thats all. But like i said, Im learning some ground, with Judo and soon BJJ.
I like Judo for the throws but other than that I really don't care that much for it. The Judo guys that normally come into our gym get beat. I mean they will have pretty kicks which I will gladly let them throw so that I can get the take down and tap them. I do like the throws though and have been thrown by them but after that we hit the ground and that's my world.
The ground is your world? Thats kinda sad. . . I think everyone should do a little stand up. And Judo just isn't throwing, Obviously you don't know much about judo. There is a ton of ground submissions: ex. arm bars, leg locks, head locks, wrist locks, and ankle locks. Those are just a few of some really basic locks.
But i do have to say that if you are 100% ground you aren't going to do so good. . . what if you come across a guy that is really good with his stand up? You will lose, Stand up game is more effective than wrestling on the ground. If he is a smart stand up fighter he will throw lots of quick jabs and low kicks, until you go for the shot and take an elbow to the back of the head or a simple knee to the face or sternum? I mean there are tons of ways to prevent being taken to the ground. I know a good bit of them.
i so really want to get back into it. im having a hard time deciding on what style that i want to get back into though. I've done TKD; and that is what i know most of. But, it has been a minute (like an extra long minute) that i have done any sort of fighting. heh, when i used to spar; i would use my hands alot instead of my feet. lolz it was funny. only used the feet after a 2 or 3 combo.
i think im gonna try and do muy thai. that looks more fun than just throwing kicks around.
Thats when the guy who knows jiu jitsu sits on his ass and says "Come on"The ground is your world? Thats kinda sad. . . I think everyone should do a little stand up. And Judo just isn't throwing, Obviously you don't know much about judo. There is a ton of ground submissions: ex. arm bars, leg locks, head locks, wrist locks, and ankle locks. Those are just a few of some really basic locks.
But i do have to say that if you are 100% ground you aren't going to do so good. . . what if you come across a guy that is really good with his stand up? You will lose, Stand up game is more effective than wrestling on the ground. If he is a smart stand up fighter he will throw lots of quick jabs and low kicks, until you go for the shot and take an elbow to the back of the head or a simple knee to the face or sternum? I mean there are tons of ways to prevent being taken to the ground. I know a good bit of them.
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