gun control in action!!

[cornercarver78]

1911 Turkey established gun control. From 1915-1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1929 The Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, approximately 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1935 China established gun control. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1938 Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, 6 to 7 million Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, the mentally ill, and 12 million Christians who were unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1956 Cambodia established gun control. From 1975 to 1977, one million "educated" people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1964 Guatemala established gun control. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1970 Uganda established gun control. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

[Capt._Ron]

They will have to put me down to get my guns. The thing is they are going to try to do it slowly without ever considering the constitution

[bigpimpatl]

I think the last thing we need in this country is more people who are afraid with more guns...and you guys wonder why we have 10,000+ deaths a year by guns.

The constitution calls for the right to bear arms. People back then (18th century) didn't have handguns and ak-47s. Arms is referring to your basic rifle. Tell me what purpose does an automatic assault rifle have? Don't tell me it's to "protect your property."

[HiPSI]

Tell me what purpose does an automatic assault rifle have? Don't tell me it's to "protect your property."

to protect my property from invading forces of crackheads.

[quickdodge®]

to protect my property from invading forces of crackheads.

Or from Big pimps from the ATL. Later, QD.

[LilMonty]

The " Right to Bear Arms" can mean guns, knives, swords or anything considered "arms". And yes, an automatic assault rifle is used to protect property/yourself (like most guns anyway).

[PawnShopCEO]

I think the last thing we need in this country is more people who are afraid with more guns...and you guys wonder why we have 10,000+ deaths a year by guns.

The constitution calls for the right to bear arms. People back then (18th century) didn't have handguns and ak-47s. Arms is referring to your basic rifle. Tell me what purpose does an automatic assault rifle have? Don't tell me it's to "protect your property."

thats the most retarded thing i have ever heard of. it makes as much sense as the govt saying you cant own a car with more than 100 hp... because you dont need anything more than that to get from point a to point b

[bigpimpatl]

No, I don't think you guys understand my point.

Canadians probably own just as many guns, probably more, then Americans. But how many gun related deaths are there in Canada compared to the US? I bet the ratio is like 1:10. I'm not against having guns; Obviously if you have something of serious value that you feel rationally concludes you owning a gun to protect, then by all means go for it. But the root of the gun problem lies in American culture; face it, this country was basically built on violence. From the British wars, to the Indians, to the Mexican War, and everything else, you have to admit that America is a very trigger happy country. The rest of the world looks at America as the "Shoot first, ask questions later" people. And that's what we do! Look at Iraq: We shoot first, and then ask questions later. And the rest is history.

And then there's the problem of American media, instilling fear into the average joe every single opportunity it can. Everyday you hear on the radio and local news: x number of people shot, or y number of people sexually raped etc. At every chance it gets, the media will paint a picture of fear that serves two purposes: to "grab you" to keep watching their station so they can get more advertising dollars, and to push those advertisements onto you so that you can go out and consume because of that fear. I can't find the official statistic, but I heard that after 9/11, the security industry saw a HUGE increase in sales of everything, from guns, bulletproof vests, security systems, trap doors, even armored vehicles for crying out loud. And even more surprising was that most of the people doing the buying were in suburban areas (where there is usually less crime) or people who would have never otherwise owned a gun in their lives.

So you guys do the math: A bunch of paranoid, fear driven citizens + easy access to guns = ?

(Hint: it's kind of like drinking and driving, not a good combination)

[bigpimpatl]

thats the most retarded thing i have ever heard of. it makes as much sense as the govt saying you cant own a car with more than 100 hp... because you dont need anything more than that to get from point a to point b

Your analogy makes absolutely no sense. What does a car have to do with a gun? The government doesn't care how much hp your car has; Why do you think we have speed limits? It doesn't matter if your car has 100 hp or 500 hp, every motorist is supposed to obey the speed limit, so your point is moot.

[bigpimpatl]

to protect my property from invading forces of crackheads.

Right, so how many crackheads have attacked your property? I hope your being sarcastic

[bigpimpatl]

Or from Big pimps from the ATL. Later, QD.

Oh you're real funny there buddy. It's obvious you can't actually add anything meaningful to the conversation....

[quickdodge®]

Oh you're real funny there buddy. It's obvious you can't actually add anything meaningful to the conversation....

My post is the only thing meaningful in this whole topic. Buddy. Later, QD.

[Julio]

We got a democrat in the hizzouse.. I know where you vote is going in 08'



GO HILARY

[yudalicious]

It's not the guns I'm afraid of, it's the people who use them. Just about everyweek on IA people get into a pissing match and threaten each other with how big their guns are, just goes to show how immature some gun owners are. I'm also inclined to say that automatic weapons have no place in an average person's home, totally overkill for self defense imo.

[PawnShopCEO]

Your analogy makes absolutely no sense. What does a car have to do with a gun? The government doesn't care how much hp your car has; Why do you think we have speed limits? It doesn't matter if your car has 100 hp or 500 hp, every motorist is supposed to obey the speed limit, so your point is moot.

cars have nothing to do with guns (although they kill 10's of thousands a year in this country) but you saying that someone shouldnt own a certain type of gun is as rediculous as the govt saying you can only own a 100 hp car

[yudalicious]

cars have nothing to do with guns (although they kill 10's of thousands a year in this country) but you saying that someone shouldnt own a certain type of gun is as rediculous as the govt saying you can only own a 100 hp car

Guns are made to injure or kill. Cars are not made to do so. Your analogy fails.

[cornercarver78]

It's not the guns I'm afraid of, it's the people who use them. Just about everyweek on IA people get into a pissing match and threaten each other with how big their guns are, just goes to show how immature some gun owners are. I'm also inclined to say that automatic weapons have no place in an average person's home, totally overkill for self defense imo.

And outlawing guns is going to keep the criminals from getting guns?? . Violence is intrinsic to humans, I don't think I'd like to give up my means of protecting myself from the people who DON't follow the law.

[Ran]

Arms is referring to your basic rifle. Tell me what purpose does an automatic assault rifle have? Don't tell me it's to "protect your property."

Automatic trigger-fired weapons are illegal unless you want to pay out the wazoo for a license.

Old-School Crank-Fired Weapons however are not illegal! Just get yourselves one of these babies and crank your way to victory!

[bigpimpatl]

Automatic trigger-fired weapons are illegal unless you want to pay out the wazoo for a license.

Old-School Crank-Fired Weapons however are not illegal! Just get yourselves one of these babies and crank your way to victory!

hahahaha

that would sure as hell keep anyone from comin near my PROPER-TAY

assault rifles are legal, and I don't think you need a license for them. Just have to be 21 or older.

[blare]

Guns are made to injure or kill. Cars are not made to do so. Your analogy fails.

So what about alcohol? What's its place in society? Let's blame all the drunk driving deaths, fights, murders, and other crimes on the object rather than the individuals under the influence. Alcohol kills more people than guns do in America every year. So let's ban alcohol!!!! Oh, wait... We already tried that and it failed miserably!!!!

[Josh...]

So what about alcohol? What's its place in society? Let's blame all the drunk driving deaths, fights, murders, and other crimes on the object rather than the individuals under the influence. Alcohol kills more people than guns do in America every year. So let's ban alcohol!!!! Oh, wait... We already tried that and it failed miserably!!!!

+1 for you sir.

[bigpimpatl]

you guys have reading comprehensions of like two year olds...tell me where do I explicitly or implicitly imply that we should ban guns? I never said we should ban guns. I just said that having assault rifles is basically overkill. I was also lamenting the fact that a lot of people who have guns are your average joes and will believe anything in the media...that is very dangerous!

why are you bringing in alcohol to this discussion? what does that have anything remotely to do with guns? What you are doing is called a red herring (a logical fallacy): you are detracting away from the subject to try to make your point, by introducing something that has nothing to do with the topic on hand. Alcohol and guns are two VERY DIFFERENT THINGS. Stop applying the same logic to every single thing you can think of that is bad. Guns are meant to kill people, in very basic terms, and for the politically correct crowd "used to protect property/life." Alcohol is a drink, used for personal enjoyment. The use of alcohol does not include killing yourself and other people, but some people make it so it is. Too bad they don't receive darwin awards for it, because that's what they deserve! If you are stupid enough to drive home hammered and happen to kill yourself, you have done everyone a favor by taking your genes out of the gene pool. "But that's so insensitive" uhh well every choice comes with consequences. If you can't deal with it don't do it. Or simple, don't drink and drive! Same for any other occasion while drunk: if you can't handle the consequences, don't do it.