6 reasons why god exist...

[Hulud]

Sorry to dissapoint.

you missed what i meant to say. i think i worded it wrong.

what i meant was i expected you to be better than that. better than the stupid comments that most people throw around.

Not necessarily, just the raw idea of everything on earth began from some single celled organism that was in some cespool of nothingness suddenly becoming a life. That part makes no sense.

and thats why you believe in god, because something that doesnt make sense to you now, you say god did it.

Now, the fact that things adapt to their new environments in order to survive, that I believe. There can still be a master plan. There can still be a God overseeing things. There can still be a purpose to everything. That is strictly faith, and I think that's what you guys have problems with me on.

thats the difference you believe there is a meaning to life, i dont

[Clegger]

Wow Religion is so stupid everybody thinks there religion is the RIGHT one or the BEST one. (look at whats going on in the middle east)

And for anybody that believes that the earth is only 6000 years old... LMFAO!!!!! that means that dinosaurs and the ice age were here and gone only a few thousand years ago? And what about carbon dating?

When I see it I'll believe it. If there is some magical miracle on a global scale or Jesus come back. Then sign me up. Until then I think its all bullshit

All Religions

[Tracer]

Well most people in this world dont realize that Christianity is not a RELIGION. Its a lifestyle (to live Christ like). Most people dont understand that. I think most people that dont believe is cause of the Unknown.

But make some points for people that dont believe...you may say "How can I believe in something I can not see?" Well do you believe in the wind or the air you breathe? You may not see it but you see the effects they have in life. Sometimes the simple things in life can explain or lead us to understand there is a GOD.

Well many people today claim they are agnostic. Which means: without knowledge or unknown. There's the term UNKNOWN again. Well evolution is what most of them believe. Read this bit of info. how evolution is false: http://www.biblelife.org/evolution.htm

I think most people dont want to believe in a GOD is cause they have to answer for how they lived their life. Its easier to just live you life, do want you want, and not care about anyone else but yourself. That's why people want to turn away from the unknown. Its easier to just live like you want and not answer for the negative things you do. Plus its hard to live like a Christian. Yeah Christians are no near perfect. We all fall short of God's grace but by faith in HIM we are saved.

But in my life I do not look up to any man or hold some religious leader up. I do not follow anyone but the life that Jesus lead and explained how for us to live. Only God can judge you...

that's my 2 cents...

[TheSnail]

Wow Religion is so stupid everybody thinks there religion is the RIGHT one or the BEST one. (look at whats going on in the middle east)

And for anybody that believes that the earth is only 6000 years old... LMFAO!!!!! that means that dinosaurs and the ice age were here and gone only a few thousand years ago? And what about carbon dating?

When I see it I'll believe it. If there is some magical miracle on a global scale or Jesus come back. Then sign me up. Until then I think its all bullshit

All Religions

^^^ What he said. +1

[yudalicious]

...Read this bit of info. how evolution is false: http://www.biblelife.org/evolution.htm...

+1 for objective, unbiased, 3rd party info! now I KNOW for sure that I've been a fool all my life!

[xlilvi3tx]

man im sorry to say but i dun believe all dat god bullshiet fuk god

[RandomGuy]

you guys dont get it
god is singularity



NASA's Moon Landing was
far less of an achievement
than Time Cube discovery,
for I have Cubed the Earth,
with 4 simultaneous corner
days in 1 rotation of Earth.
(singularity belief scientist can't comprehend T.O.E.)

God SINGULARITY and the
academic taught singularity
constitute great evils in the
Cubic World of Opposites -
Opposites hemispheres and
Opposite sexes of humanity.
The Universe is composed
of Opposites - existing only
as Opposites - with a zero
value existence - cancelling
to nothing as a singularity.

I think Cubic, therefore I
rise above the singularity
mentality human and the
false gods they worship -
discovering a Universe of
Opposites their education
will never allow them to
know. Evil of believing
is not measuring and the
result of not measuring -
is never knowing Truth,
ineffable by man or god.

Gene Ray, Cubic and Wise Above Gods
************************************************** *****

Cubicism, Not group theory.
If ignorant of the almighty
Time Cube Creation Truth,
you deserve to be killed.
Killing you is not immoral -
but justified to save life on
Earth for future generations.
Academic taught singularity
within universe of opposites,
has lobotomized your mind.
You are Enslaved by Word -
no whip or shackle required.
You do not have the freedom
to discuss/debate Time Cube.
Academia destroys your mind
by suppressing opposite view.
God equals self masturbation
of mind - for opposites create.
You are educated singularities.
YOU DESERVE DEATH -
FOR SINGULARITY EVIL
in the Universe of Opposites.
No God Can Make Himself
as singularity is death, not life.
Planets nor human are entities
as they equal Zero Opposites.
You are educated singularity
stupid and evil, unfit for life
in the Universe of Opposites.

[Big J]

Hmmmm........

brilliant design. It's a matter of chance. In anything that is infinite, everything must occure once, if it occures once, it must occure again. So, based on that mathmetical theory of infinity, there is life on other planets, and that give me hope that some where there is intelligent life.

________ is to adults, as Santa Clause is to childern.

A) beer
B) money
C) Jesus
D)water

[THEONE]

god made the earth in how many days? abraham lived to be how many years old? beleive what you wish.remeber the holy bible was translated and interpeted many many times.
1 day could have been 1000 years or 1,000,000 years . the thing is you should not question god,just have faith. im not saying goto church and become a fanatic.and i dont think he is either.
i think he gave us this life and the bible as an example of what we can and can not do or try not to do. once you know these things you live your life.when you feel you need guidance goto church see a priest or preacher or just pray.

and to me being saved is actually accepting him and doing your best to live right and do right to others. there are many rituals related to this.the end of the world is when you die,this will be judgement day.and for the living look to revalations and dont take it literally. but hey this is just my take on the subject. the holy spirit is real god is real christ is real after all they are one in the same.

[Big J]

you may say "How can I believe in something I can not see?" Well do you believe in the wind or the air you breathe? You may not see it but you see the effects they have in life.

No, I can't see it but it can be understood because of concepts explained by science. I know "air" is 21% oxygen, 78% nitrogen and 1% other stuff. I know the effect of air on life becaues I understand the crebs cycle and aerobic metabolism.

Now you start to talk about "God", and there are really a whole bunch of them if your not too closed minded to belive yours is the only one. Gods come and go. Noone belives in the Roman and Greek gods anymore, the "gods" of the Indians died when they were killed by "the childern of God" in the name of "God" in the first part of Americian history. When aragance kills the folowers of todays "Gods", people will invent some new ones, but air will still be air.

[2micro4u]

Well said bro.
"As far as Gods my belief there is only one true GOD. From my believe Jesus is the way. Im not perfect nor a saint either but daily I continue to strive to improve on my spituality and life.

[Big J]

Jesus vs. Santa Clause

Jesus: be good and you'll live on forever in my fathers kingdom

Santa Clause: be good and I'll squeeze my fat ass down your chimney and give you gifts

Jesus: I'm the son of God

Santa: I live on the North Pole

Jesus: I came back to life

Santa: I have flying Reindeer

Jesus: I didn't have sexual relations with that woman (Mary Magdolin, which by the way the catholic church admitted to fabricating the whole Ms. Magdoiln is a whore thing, one of just a few things they've "changed")

Santa: Lie told to childern by parents

Jusus: ................................................

Although there is historical evidence supporting a "Santa Clause" as being a real person. who did real things, look at what has become of the truth. The Santa we all know and love, big red white fuzz lined suit, rosy cheeks, ect. started out in a coke advertisment.

The paintings of a white anglo Jesus.......... you get the drift

[THEONE]

yup^^^ the air is real and there have been many gods. and there still are good ones and bad ones. i dont look down on any religon its our right as human beings to do what we will with this life.
the thing all the non belivers are missing is "faith" its funny how "science" created by god is being used to prove him wrong. its actually trickery the devil is taking one of gods greatest gifts "knowledge" and using it against him. the joy you feel when you go out side on a warm sunny day,the feelings of love and anger all of this emotion thats god,how can you deny it? when you do somteing good for someone else,when you give and expect nothing in return thats human nature,thats god. modern science always proves itself wrong.
miracles happen maybe not on a global scale but they do. if you look you can see them. what would life be like if god held our hand all of the time. live and learn,thats it. thats the gift.

[Big J]

What would your understanding of religion or faith be if you had been blind and deaf since birth. Your mind wouldn't be polluted and limited by thought that must be formed using words, your thoughts would be formed using emotion, recollection, touch, smell: pure and free from the coruption of words, the word of other men, the words of women, the lies of sight, written language. That's god, a purity of thought, I can never know.

I get what you're saying, but I can't give credit to a word so soiled by the mouth of man, so I simply refuse to lable it, and when those moments happen I leave "God" out of it.

[THEONE]

if i were born blind deaf and dumb i would be innocent. i would be a test for others. a trail for the mother and father who made me. god works in many diffrent ways.none of us have the right answer,live well.

[Big J]

if i were born blind deaf and dumb i would be innocent. i would be a test for others. a trail for the mother and father who made me. god works in many diffrent ways.none of us have the right answer,live well.

You would still want, you would still be human.

So is God an adjective or a noun?

[THEONE]

So is God an adjective or a noun?[/QUOTE]

i could not answer that. god is everything. he is everywhere. i really can not sum him up in one word with my puny vocabulary and misspelling.
i never blame god for my personal failures or problems with the world. he has offered us help.it does not have to be this way the answers have been here all along. but we are stubborn sinners,set in our ways, the best part is he loves us anyway.

[Hulud]

No, I can't see it but it can be understood because of concepts explained by science. I know "air" is 21% oxygen, 78% nitrogen and 1% other stuff. I know the effect of air on life becaues I understand the crebs cycle and aerobic metabolism.

Now you start to talk about "God", and there are really a whole bunch of them if your not too closed minded to belive yours is the only one. Gods come and go. Noone belives in the Roman and Greek gods anymore, the "gods" of the Indians died when they were killed by "the childern of God" in the name of "God" in the first part of Americian history. When aragance kills the folowers of todays "Gods", people will invent some new ones, but air will still be air.

holy crap, ive never heard it put like that

thats a great point

i mean ive thought about how everyone cant be right, but never about replacing gods

[Big J]

God, Gods, saviours wouldn't exist if men didn't, they are a creation of man. If there was a god or not, humans or not, the REST of the living things on this planet would go on living without a second thought.

[Big J]

holy crap, ive never heard it put like that

thats a great point

i mean ive thought about how everyone cant be right, but never about replacing gods

There are what I call "universal truths" that exist thoughout all nationalities, religions, races, ect.

The best I can sum it up is: do good and good things happen. Everyone knows right from wrong, but right isn't allways the easiest thing to do.



Then every religion hands out a book that tell stories about doing the right thing and what happens when you don't, and how even though you do the right thing, it doesn't garuntee an easy life. That's most religious texts in a nut shell.

[THEONE]

There are what I call "universal truths" that exist thoughout all nationalities, religions, races, ect.

The best I can sum it up is: do good and good things happen. Everyone knows right from wrong, but right isn't allways the easiest thing to do.



Then every religion hands out a book that tell stories about doing the right thing and what happens when you don't, and how even though you do the right thing, it doesn't garuntee an easy life. That's most religious texts in a nut shell.

ahh yes carma or karma... your a believer

[TheSnail]

Well, Sunday = 3hrs X 52.14 days X 75years = I live 11,732hrs longer then a religious person.

[THEONE]

Well, Sunday = 3hrs X 52.14 days X 75years = I live 11,732hrs longer then a religious person.

WTF???? hahaha. its cool man...do your thang and i will do mine

[.gauge.]

Agnostic ftw.

[ISAtlanta300]

Everyone knows right from wrong, but right isn't allways the easiest thing to do.

Whoa there....

"Everyone knows right from wrong" based on what?

If you tell me based on the current laws and morals, my friend, all those were laid out in the bible.

If you truly lived your life without regret you would be free to do what you want, damn the right from wrong.

[Jaimecbr900]

Some of you need a DICTIONARY and a copy of the Bible before you attempt to come into a debate like this.

What I find odd is how people that believe THEY...Humans.....are the know all and end all still can not explain some of the most basic things in life.

I've said it a million times but every single one of the agnostics, atheists, non-believers, devil worshipers....whatever you want to label yourselves love to gloss over it because you can't get your head around a simple one word idea: FAITH.

You are trying to explain FAITH using LOGIC......DURRRR DURRRRR.....

How can you critique a car you've NEVER driven? How can you describe how someone looks using numbers and not words or pictures? How come yall love to believe wholeheartedly "science", yet not use the DEFINITION of Faith? Definitions are "scientific", right?

Nowhere in the definition of FAITH does it describe tangibility. It actually describes the opposite. It is believing WITHOUT a LOGICAL reason. It is believing in something that CAN'T be explained by CONVENTIONAL manner. So how in GOD'Screation are you going to use LOGIC to validate something that has NO LOGIC?????? Like giving opinions on a car you've never sat in or trying to describe something visual non-visually, it is IMPOSSIBLE.....IMPOSSIBLE until you realize that not ALL individuals need God to come down on a cloud or appear as a burning bush or turn stones into bread BEFORE they have a belief in something......IT IS CALLED FAITH!!!!!

Get over yourselves already.

[Curmudgeon]

DingDingDing!!!! We now have a winner-

For those that need "proof", you're ship has sailed, and you've missed the boat.

It's not God's job to supply proof to the unfaithfull non believers.

He gave you free will to choose/believe as you desire.

All he supplies is his word, and enough rope.

Pick your tree wisely-

[Big J]

DingDingDing!!!! We now have a winner-

For those that need "proof", you're ship has sailed, and you've missed the boat.

It's not God's job to supply proof to the unfaithfull non believers.

He gave you free will to choose/believe as you desire.

All he supplies is his word, and enough rope.

Pick your tree wisely-

I still fail to see the diffrence between a child beliving in Santa Claus and an adult beliving in "life ever lasting", "devine trinity", "judgment", ect.

The diffrence is eventually a child realizes there is no fat man sliding down a chminey to give people gifts, either because the whole idea seems ridiculas once their minds mature enought to use reason and logic, someone tells them it's not true, or they just give up.

I have faith that one day people will realize there is no "God", that the results of your actions are dictated by the choices you make, that no man claiming to be the son of God should ever be taken seriously, and that making as much of a difference while your here is all you got, so instead of focusing on a "hope" that everything will be made right when they die that they will do what they can here and now.

Santa Clause says he has a list and he's checking it twice, be nice and you get toys, Jesus/God/the earthly empire of organized religion say pretty much the same thing, toys, life everlasting, whatever.

Good luck and I hope faith works out for you.

So if I don't belive in your "God", say I follow another religion, does that mean what I belive in is null and void?

[Jaimecbr900]

thats the difference you believe there is a meaning to life, i dont

And because you don't believe is the reason you feel that way....

[DnBmama05]

All I have to say is once you DO believe in God and put your life in his hands - He will definitely show you how real He really is. That is all

[quickdodge®]

All I have to say is once you DO believe in God and put your life in his hands - He will definitely show you how real He really is.

Hmmmm. Not necessarily. Later, QD.

[Hulud]

And because you don't believe is the reason you feel that way....

which is my whole point

i never say im 100% right, all i say is i dont believe in your god

[DnBmama05]

I find these threads somewhat amusing. It's always the religious threads you find most of the non-religious people in. I've never been the type to look down on someone because of what they believe or don't believe in. I just find it funny that people who don't believe will be the quickest to respond to a thread like this and maybe even say it is 'ignorant' or stupid to believe in someone you can't see or touch. This is why a lot of believers are scared to admit they believe - some will even say they don't know if they believe or not to keep themselves from sounding crazy. I grew up in a religious family and the older I got the more I wondered how real can God be? and am I wasting my time with all of this? I think a lot of people are just waiting for something to happen to show us that God is real and thankfully that 'something' happened to me a few years ago. Sometimes the signs are right in front of us and we don't even realize it. I now don't doubt God and because I don't I have been blessed with more things than I can count. I can't imagine not being able to have someone to pray to when life gets rough. I don't need to copy and paste internet sources or type big fancy words to try to prove what I believe in. I don't consider anyone who doesn't believe in God to be ignorant or stupid for not believing since it is hard for us to comprehend something like that without having some kind of faith. If anyone cares enough to tear this post apart have at it. I'm not trying to change anyone's views because that would be as impossible as trying to change mine

[GSRteg®]

Damn this is good!

[TheSnail]

I find these threads somewhat amusing. It's always the religious threads you find most of the non-religious people in. I've never been the type to look down on someone because of what they believe or don't believe in. I just find it funny that people who don't believe will be the quickest to respond to a thread like this and maybe even say it is 'ignorant' or stupid to believe in someone you can't see or touch. This is why a lot of believers are scared to admit they believe - some will even say they don't know if they believe or not to keep themselves from sounding crazy. I grew up in a religious family and the older I got the more I wondered how real can God be? and am I wasting my time with all of this? I think a lot of people are just waiting for something to happen to show us that God is real and thankfully that 'something' happened to me a few years ago. Sometimes the signs are right in front of us and we don't even realize it. I now don't doubt God and because I don't I have been blessed with more things than I can count. I can't imagine not being able to have someone to pray to when life gets rough. I don't need to copy and paste internet sources or type big fancy words to try to prove what I believe in. I don't consider anyone who doesn't believe in God to be ignorant or stupid for not believing since it is hard for us to comprehend something like that without having some kind of faith. If anyone cares enough to tear this post apart have at it. I'm not trying to change anyone's views because that would be as impossible as trying to change mine

At least the non believers don't go to other countries and try to convert people, far as well threads on the internet. Your statement is false.

[TheSnail]

and crap

[b@d @pple]

religion


Something that has surely lasted the wrath of time. Despite this, it is fundamentally wrong (every year we learn more about how religion is bullshit), and often racially intolerable (kill the Jews! Ok, now kill the Muslims! All right, whoever's left: kill the Buhdists!). Has been the cause of many great wars, including the most famous of all: the Crusades, of which there were seven, if I remember correctly. It is an excuse to murder, it is a scapegoat in all its forms (well, shit, I just shot my wife--GOD MADE ME DO IT! SHE WAS AN AGENT OF LUCIFER!!!).

I do not simply attack Christianity or Catholicism, no, ALL religons are based off a false worship of some supernatural being that simply is not there. There is no evidence for this (beyond, often, a book--e.g. the Bible--which can obviously not prove the existance of the text withtin it) and whole heaping loads of evidence against.

I like how preople bring up atheists like we are bad What the hell kind of retort is this? What, not believing in God makes you a horrible monster?: Hitler was a fucking Catholic. He murdered millions in his holy quest to destroy the Jews; he claimed he was "Doing the Lords work" and, upon the eve of his war on Russia, the Pope CONGRATULATED his efforts. Throughout the war he was not excommunicated.

In the Middle East countries war over something as silly as nonexistant entities. Since the begginging of recorded history man has made war on other men because they refused to worship the same invisible diety as another.

And for what? Something that doesn't even fucking exist. It's illogical; it's evil. If I could, I would wipe every religion from the face of the Earth and start fresh. Fuck religion. It solves nothing and creates all sorts of unnecesary shit.

[b@d @pple]

A man once said 'Religion is a tool the Devil uses to play man against himself'. Try not to take the 'Devil' part to seriously and imagine the Devil as a force and how the 'Devil' plays on emotions like insecurity. All religions believe they are right and all the other thousands of religions are wrong, the more people that believe in a certain religion the more they all feel they are right eg: if there was a religion with say only 5 members everyone would laugh there beliefs off without question but the more people that believe in something the more it is taken as genuine. Now when a large number of people believe in something different to what another large number of people believe it makes them feel insecure in the way of making them feel there might be a chance they might not be right. This is why you get religious wars, if the opposing people wont believe in what you do then you kill them and with them out of the way and no more opposing views, you feel secure again also a lot of religions recruit with fear eg: Catholics use the fear of hell and tell people that if you dont believe in what they do that is where you are going and they tell Catholic childern this from a very young age in an attempt to stop them from leaving the religion in later life. This is what has happened throughout history and will continue to happen if religion exists although a lot of religious poeple dont feel thretened by others there will always be the insecure ones that cant stand people believing in things they do, people should be able to believe in what they want as long as there a good person, people should be able to look at life and make there own decisions on what they want to believe, and kids should certainly not be brought up with there parents telling them what to believe, sure there parents can tell them what they believe but at the same time tell them they can believe whatever they want to believe in as long as they are a good person. Just remember most religions are nearly identical in there morals eg peace, love, charity etc its just the different ways of worship that divide them, and these are what calls all the wars which is so stupid if you think about it and worship is what devines a religion, so if you take out worship what do you have: 'Good Morals'. Religious people need to take there living morals seriously but have a less intense and serious approach to worship or things like: what happens when you die, is god a man or is god a not of sex, was Jesus really the sun of God or was he a prophet, none of these things really matter on a day to day basis its the living morals that really count.

[Jaimecbr900]

See, what gets me is how bad you guys stereotype "religion" and "Christianity" and even "God". Some of you have a total misconception and are totally incorrect about what any of it really is. Don't know where you got those ideas, and to be honest it really doesn't matter. They are simply wrong, period.

Church leaders are merely that, leaders. Just like you have a teacher in front of the class to teach, yet why don't people say we are all just following him/her? We don't, right? We're merely there to LEARN something? Why is it that church is any different for some of you? Why is it that if we go to church suddenly we become these mindless Zombies falling and kissing the feet of our "leaders"??? That is FAR from the truth. We may listen. We may even agree. We certainly don't fall and kiss their feet like they are GODS. You guys are so intent on believing the hype that you lose total sight of common sense. Catholics listen and follow the teachings of the Pope because he is the highest educated leader in their church organization. They do NOT think he's God. They do NOT think what he says is the gospel. Just like we agree or disagree with our President or Boss, they do the same thing. Doesn't mean they WORSHIP him. If they do, they are in total disagreement with what the Bible teaches.

People falsely think that because you pray a certain way or say certain verses of the Bible that you suddenly become this hollier-than-thou person that casts stones at all those that don't believe. That is far from the truth. It may happen every once in a while, but name anything that doesn't have an exception to it's rule. Often times the church and religion tries to teach us to be tolerant rather than judgemental. Some of us do a lousy job at learning that, I admit it. But for people to go around professing that the reason they don't believe in God at all because they have a bad taste in their mouth from some "church goer" is totally missing the boat all together.

It's only about one thing and it always has been: God. Do you believe, yes or no? If so, are you willing to follow? If so, here's how. Period. End of discussion. That is what "religion" is about at it's very core. There are many different ideas out there on how to get from point A to point B, and this is where YOU have to decide which one is the one YOU believe in.

If you need a burning bush to tell you, you missed the boat.

If you need Jesus to come down in a cloud and tap you on the head to believe, you missed the boat.

If you think that a "church" makes you a better follower because it's big and fancy and has lots of members, then you missed the boat.

If you feel that there is no purpose to life besides what is tangible, then you certainly missed the boat.



Why do we build such fancy schools? Could we not get the same level of learning from setting up a few benches in front of a lonely chalkboard in the middle of a pasture? Why not? Why do we really "need" a huge gymnasium to learn? Why do we need new books? Why do students need lockers or chairs? Can they not learn standing up? Do we really need trophy cases to learn? Why not allow a teacher to be a homeless person, after all who better to teach our children about "real life"?

Now think about that when you come down and pass judgement on a church you've never even been in. Think about it.

[ISAtlanta300]

At least the non believers don't go to other countries and try to convert people, far as well threads on the internet. Your statement is false.

Ya indeed.. the Non believers prefer to start out at home by forcing bans and legislatures on everything religious from "Merry Christmas" to the "easter bunny", under the pretext of political correctness