Does God Exist? - A mature discussion

[Type-R]

I used to a big church-going individual, but after some specific events in my life I chose to stop and now I find myself always saying the same thing... show me proof, not what is writting in a book.

[Curmudgeon]

now I find myself always saying the same thing... show me proof, not what is writting in a book.

I have no scientific data to support the how and why of it all, however we do have a reasonably accurate account of what has transpired since the begining of recorded history.

Unfortunately, this recorded history and the Bible are all we as inferrior humans have to go by. Unless of course you choose to bring the human "intelligence" factor into it, further muddying or distorting the reality of these events.

The "proof" as you put it "could" be the things that are happening(and have happened)on this planet on a daily bassis for thousands of years, if one were to be open minded enough to see the writing on the wall.

Based on real time events around the world, is it not quite coincidental that the Bible(if you know how to decipher the writing)fairly accurately depicts these very same events, and their eventual outcome?

Some of these current events include but are not limited to the wars fought between the religious factions in the middle East. Time will tell the tale. The Bible also speaks of certain countries(the USA included, though not called the "USA").... how these civilizations/cultures were born and how they will meet their extinction. I'm afraid that based on current recorded blueprint we have, that there may just be something to this.

I'm not a Bible thumpin', repent or burn preaching individual, but will concede that there are striking similarities between the written word and actual recorded, as well as on going current events.

Are the written words of man just a tool designed by man to keep the masses in check, or were they in fact a story, and prophecy told to man by an all knowing being?

Are you as a human being just here for the "ride" and then it's over, or does your existence have another purpose? I like to think there is some method to the madness, otherwise what's it all for?

There has to be something more to this than just survival of the fittest.
Like the Salmon, the fittest lives to procreate another season, but what's the purpose?

I submit to you that the purpose is for your soul or spirit to eventually find it's place in the eternal light aka "heaven". As the long time battle between the energies God(good), and evil(Lucifer) proceeds, the wages or stakes are high.

The battle being fought is for your soul's eternal resting place. Your free will determines where that final place is-

What it all comes down to is, do you or do you not believe that there is something more than this. The problem always seems to be that we don't know what we don't know, and that until the end that will be the case.

Enter faith. For the purposes of this discussion, Faith is nothing more than you're acceptance that indeed there is something more.

Side note.

The first time you built a motor, or whatever it was that you did the very first time, you had no "proof" you could achieve your goal, BUT.... you had "faith" that it could be done.

How'd it turn out?