Does God Exist? - A mature discussion

[David88vert]

Are you really gonna tell me that God was just bored one day at home and was like "man you know what, let's create people!! We can grow them like chea-pets. O and even better yet!! I can make them different colors to make it interesting. I dont like black, so neither will the rest of the world." Are you fucking serious?

And if your saying that he created us, then why wouldn't he create 50 million more planet/species just like us? Believe me, if I was bored and could do that, I would. O and also GOD, decided to make Islam and Christianity and every other prehistoric religion that came waaaaaaaaaaaaaay before either of those 2, just to throw people off a little bit right?

Nope, I'm not going to tell you that. It's pretty clear what his purpose is - if you were to sit down and read it for yourself. According to the Bible, it is to have people choose of their own free will to worship him. That's it, it's pretty much that simple. The trick is giving people free will to choose and then convincing them to chose the right way - without interfering.

Think of it this way. You want a girl to love you, but you want to make certain that it is because she loves you - not your money, power, etc. The only way you can do that is to remove those items from her view ahead of time, and you can't force her to love you either. You can only give your leve and hope she returns it. Is that simple enough for you?

People can choose to do anything they want - inside some basic confines.

Now, can we get back on topic?

[gtikid]

Nope, I'm not going to tell you that. It's pretty clear what his purpose is - if you were to sit down and read it for yourself. According to the Bible, it is to have people choose of their own free will to worship him. That's it, it's retty much that simple. The trick is giving people free will to choose and then convincing them to chose the right way - without interfering.

Think of it this way. You want a girl to love you, but you wnat to make certain that it is because she loves you - not your money, power, etc. The only way you can do that is to remove those items from her view ahead of time, and you can't force her to love you either. You can only give your leve and hope she returns it. Is that simple enough for you?

People can choose to do anything they want - inside some basic confines.

Now, can we get back on topic?

What is the right way? Like i've said before, every religion share the same views on the "right way" of living life. And if you really look at it, the "right way" is really just having human deceny.

We are on the topic. We're on the topic if God exists, and now we are discussing why each one of us believes how we do. If you just wanted to know who believed in god and who doesnt, just make a poll. Don't complain about people not believing in what you believe and the way you believe.

So prove to me this....or try at least. How do you know that your god is "the right one"/"the correct one"? There have been MANY MANY MANY before him, who people believed to be "the one". There have been many different religions that existed way before the one you believe in. So your saying all those were wrong?

[David88vert]

What is the right way? Like i've said before, every religion share the same views on the "right way" of living life. And if you really look at it, the "right way" is really just having human deceny.

We are on the topic. We're on the topic if God exists, and now we are discussing why each one of us believes how we do. If you just wanted to know who believed in god and who doesnt, just make a poll. Don't complain about people not believing in what you believe and the way you believe.

So prove to me this....or try at least. How do you know that your god is "the right one"/"the correct one"? There have been MANY MANY MANY before him, who people believed to be "the one". There have been many different religions that existed way before the one you believe in. So your saying all those were wrong?

You've completely missed the point. Read the start again. There is not yes or no to this. This thread is for discussing things that help prove OR disprove the existence of God. It has nothing to do with how to get to heaven, which god is the true god, etc. Look at theoretic and factual evidence - universal design, life processes, etc. This isn't just a "I believe" thread. Everyone either believes in the existence of God, or doesn't - based completely upon their personal faith.

[gtikid]

You've completely missed the point. Read the start again. There is not yes or no to this. This thread is for discussing things that help prove OR disprove the existence of God. It has nothing to do with how to get to heaven, which god is the true god, etc. Look at theoretic and factual evidence - universal design, life processes, etc. This isn't just a "I believe" thread. Everyone either believes in the existence of God, or doesn't - based completely upon their personal faith.

Exactly, if you wanted a yes or no, just make a fucking poll like the other guy did. Not that hard. Now your getting all bent when someone challenges your beliefs.

I am looking at theoretical and factual evidence. "In the beginning God made Earth, the seas, the animals, and man." O shit did he really? Then who the fuck created the dinosaurs and the cavemen that have been FOUND and dig up and exist as evidence of life thousands of years ago? ...