and how are u gonna quote the last part of wat i said wen u kno the 1st part is true? y do u think they are taking weight gainers??? if they want instant muscle take roids, otherwise get some andro and eat 15 to 20grams of protein per pound per day!!! if u dont wanna beleive me dats kool, i kno wat im talkin bout and ive helped alot of my friends but do wat u do