Maybe we all could talk at the 4th of July meet. I'm with Baby J about taking the northern route. John, Eddie, and I just don't want to rush out there, Driving thirteen hours a day. We want to stop and take photos of the cool stuff along the way, and see some of the sights like the Grand canyon and such. Maybe like 5 days to Cali, Three to four days in Cali, and then 5 days back home. It may take less time to drive there and back, and see the sights without driving too hard, but Id rather plan on the time and not need it.

By the way, John and I are "for sure" going now. So add us to the list.