see i've never even heard of any of theese^ i havent been involved in that shit in many years. i was around when 12 tribes, downpour, chokehold, pioson the well,brothers keeper, shia hulud, nora, 18 vision, drowning man and all that shit was around...thoose where the good days. then it got to where all the sceene kids came about that wear sooo fuckin cool and shit and i just stopped going cause how dare u come to a show smelling like vodka...lolOriginally Posted by Hulud






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