Originally Posted by Ran Kizama
But see, leave it to the Media and Activists, an apology in this type of situation will never be good enough.
But see, leave it to the Media and Activists, an apology in this type of situation will never be good enough.
I call bullsh*t. If Kramer said any of that then he would still have been bashed as a racist simply because he's white and it would be seen as a white man talking down onto black people.
WHAT Part are you NOT understanding???? THE "N" word is used very COMMON.... I am NOT talking about the N word man... I know I misquoted him my bad but it had to do with hangings PERIOD.
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THANK YOU!!!!! If a black person went off on a white person like he did to the black people, they would be just as wrong! Like I said there is nothing ok about this situation and TEEJAY you are disgusting me at this moment
THEY WOULD BE JUST AS WRONG, BUT YOU WOULDNT BE HEARING ABOUT IT ON THE NEWS, AND WHITE ACTIVISTS WOULDNT BE ON THE STREETS ASKING FOR A HEAD TO BE PLACED ON A STAKE.
BLUESCLUES OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES AND EARS!!!! WATCH ANY BLACK COMEDY STAND UP, CHRIS ROCK, MARTIN LAWRENCE, ETC!!! MOST OF THE SHOW IS THEM GOING OF ON WHITES!!!!!THANK YOU!!!!! If a black person went off on a white person like he did to the black people, they would be just as wrong! Like I said there is nothing ok about this situation and TEEJAY you are disgusting me at this moment
Still does not make it right. He only did it because he knows his career is done now. He is still a racist. He said what he truely meant and there is no covering it up. That's like Hitler coming back and apologizing for killing all those Jews. He truely hated Jews and he showed it. There is no covering it up
THAT'S MY JAM!
So if I called you the N word, you would be fine with that because its COMMON, yet if I say Im going to hang you upside down (which would have to mean by your ankles) you're going to be all offended by that?
IT'S STILL WRONG EITHER FUCKING WAY!!!!!well for most black comedians, its part of the act..hell for some its their ONLY act!! now tell me thats not showing true colors either
Oh George and I am not liking your views right about now either. You are trying to stick up for a racist! So what are you really saying?
Still does not make it right. He only did it because he knows his career is done now. He is still a racist. He said what he truely meant and there is no covering it up. That's like Hitler coming back and apologizing for killing all those Jews. He truely hated Jews and he showed it. There is no covering it up
Comparing this situation to the Nazi holocaust is an insult to Jews everywhere. Just my personal opinion.
IM DONE WITH THIS THREAD, im not racist, but i do hate IGNORANT ppl, no matter what the color
He said it to degrade him!!!! Of course his fucking intelligence went out of the window!
MY POINT IS, THAT SINCE A WHITE MAN GOES OFF ON A FEW BLACK GUYS ITS GOING TO BE BLOWN WAY MORE OUT OF PROPORTION THAN WHEN A BLACK GUY GOES OFF ON A FEW WHITE MEN. GET IT? THE MEDIA AND SO CALLED ACTIVISTS LOVE THIS TYPE OF SHIT. NO IM NOT SAYING IT WAS OKAY FOR HIM TO DO THAT, BUT PEOPLE WILL NOT LET THIS GO. HE'S EVEN APOLOGIZED FOR THIS, BUT ITS NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH.
Yes it is understood that he went crazy, got mad and said things he NEVER should have said. I am not going to stick up for him.....he said he was sorry...ok well thats not going to change what people think of him good or bad so he lost fans for that, he brought that upon himself.
Oh please. At least use a fair comparison. Hitler KILLED Jews. So is apologizing gonna make up for it? Obviously not.Still does not make it right. He only did it because he knows his career is done now. He is still a racist. He said what he truely meant and there is no covering it up. That's like Hitler coming back and apologizing for killing all those Jews. He truely hated Jews and he showed it. There is no covering it up
Kramer only SAID things. Were they racist? Sure. Still, all he attacked with was words and he apologized with words. It should be enough, but for over-sensitive people it will never be enough. They expect some sort of compensation for having their feelings hurt.
I CONSIDER ANY FUCKING PERSON THAT CALLS ME A RACIST JUST AS OFFENSIVE AS SOMEONE CALLING YOU THE N WORD, SO RESPECT ME IN THAT ASPECT PLEASE.
You want to know the difference? Did he say it in a bashing or degrading way?!!! He single out the only white people in a prodominently (sp?) black environment? Did he just go clean off yelling and cursing at them with intentions of hurting them? NO!then youve obviously never watched any black comedians stand up show. remember the old martin lawrence stand up, or maybe it was chris rock, i cant remember, but he went off talkin bout "CRACKA ASS CRACKA!! ILL STICK MY FOOT IN A CRACKA ASS, CRACKA ASS CRACKERS!!!" now tell me what wouldve happened if a white comedian used the same line but inserted nigger instead of cracker
YOU JUST COMPARED THE DEATH OF MILLIONS OF JEWS TO A FEW WORDS SAID BY ONE INDIVIDUAL. WHERE DOES THAT PUT YOU? JUST A QUESTION.
You are George just don't see or maybe don't want to see how and why this is so wrong and how it is not like anyone elses act!did i say that?? NO. i just said if a black comedian did the same thing, this would be a NON ISSUE
Hmm... All of them?then youve obviously never watched any black comedians stand up show. remember the old martin lawrence stand up, or maybe it was chris rock, i cant remember, but he went off talkin bout "CRACKA ASS CRACKA!! ILL STICK MY FOOT IN A CRACKA ASS, CRACKA ASS CRACKERS!!!" now tell me what wouldve happened if a white comedian used the same line but inserted nigger instead of cracker
I have heard Bernie Mac, Richard Pryor, Chris Rock, Everybody on Comic View on BET....It is just the stigma that the word holds said from a fair skin person's mouth.
I had a friend of mine that is half white half black but looks albino as hell say the word "nigga" in front of a group of 6 black girls and if I didnt vouch for the fact she was half black they would have beat her ass....It depends on people...
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EXACTLY!! NOW YOUR GONNA HAVE JESSE JACKSON AND ALL THE OTHER MEDIA ACTIVISTS ON TV CALLING FOR HIS HEAD, BUT IF THIS WAS IN REVERSE, AND SOME WHITE RIGHTS ACTIVIST GOT ON TV, THEY WOULD LAUGH HIM OFF THE AIR
Me personally, I used it around you I would be fine with the "N"... I have had friends that are white that used it around me before so its no big deal. But if we got in a fight and you said you just a dumd ass F'ng "N" that should be hung upside down. Yeah somebody would be hanging upside down and it wouldn't be me... When I was younger I used the word very loosely I'll admit that, but I am getting older I am trying to cut that habit out. Plain and simple he could take the heat that he wasn't funny to some people.
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IM TYPING IN ALL CAPS SO THAT MAYBE IT IMPACTS YOU A LITTLE MORE. WE UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A STAND UP ACT FOCUSING ON ANOTHER RACE. IM NOT COMPARING THOSE TWO. HOWEVER, I AM SAYING THAT IF A BLACK MAN WENT OFF ON A FEW WHITE MEN IN FRONT A PREDOMINANTLY BLACK CROWD, THEY WOULD LAUGH AT IT. EVEN THOUGH IT WOULD BE EQUALLY AS WRONG, YOU WOULDNT BE HEARING ABOUT IT ON THE NEWS AND YOU WOULDNT HAVE WHITE ACTIVISTS BREAKING DOWN DOORS.
There is a difference between NIGGER AND NIGGA!!! Yeah nigga is rooted from the word nigger so that makes it wrong, but that word is not used as an insult. NIGGER IS!!!!! Even the Jerry said he doesn't want anything to do with him anymore. If he knew he was wrong and what he did was wrong, what makes you think that what he did was no different from any other comedian? Have you ever heard of someone else saying they didn't want anything to do with that black comedian because he offended some white people? I think not!
IVE PERSONALLY SEEN BERNIE MAC DO IT, AND CHRIS ROCK, CMON!! BACK INT THE DAY HE DID IT ALL THE TIME. I HAVE NOT HEARD RICHARD PRYOR SAY ANYTHING THOUGHHmm... All of them?
I have heard Bernie Mac, Richard Pryor, Chris Rock, Everybody on Comic View on BET....It is just the stigma that the word holds said from a fair skin person's mouth.
I had a friend of mine that is half white half black but looks albino as hell say the word "nigga" in front of a group of 6 black girls and if I didnt vouch for the fact she was half black they would have beat her ass....It depends on people...
JUST GIVE IT UP GEORGE, SOME PPL JUST WANT TO BE IGNORANT
WOW, JUST WOW.
Because it was not sincire. He did not mean it!
OF COURSE HE DOESNT WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH HIM, BECAUSE IF HE WAS A SUPPORTER TO HIM THEN HE WOULD BE BANISHED FROM MEDIA AS WELL AND BE SIDE LABELED A RACIST ALSO. THINK ABOUT IT.
You don't know that. You wanna know why? Most likely because it has not happened.
IM NOT RACIST, AND ANYONE THAT KNOWS ME OR READS MY POSTS KNOWS THAT, I JUST CANT STAND DOUBLE STANDARDS AND HYPOCRITES, AND THERE ARE TOO MANY OF THOSE IN THIS WORLD
HOW DO YOU KNOW? ARE YOU PSYCHIC? WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO DO TO MAKE IT SINCERE?
I've seen them and they did not do anything near what he did!!!BLUESCLUES OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES AND EARS!!!! WATCH ANY BLACK COMEDY STAND UP, CHRIS ROCK, MARTIN LAWRENCE, ETC!!! MOST OF THE SHOW IS THEM GOING OF ON WHITES!!!!!
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OF COURSE THERE PROBABLY HAVENT BEEN WHITE HECKLERS IN A PREDOMINANTLY BLACK AUDIENCE. WANT TO TAKE A GUESS AS TO WHY?
Well you trying to make this situation seem as if it is ok is very offensive to me!
It wasn't? How do you know? Can you see inside his mind? Do you know what he does and doesn't mean?
You can only say that because you blind yourself with the impression that he's only trying to save his career. We've all said things we didn't mean in the past and we apologize. We regret those things. To simply point him out as a unique case is pretty shallow.
OMG, COME THE FUCK ON!! YOURE KILLIN ME!! IVE BEEN TO A BLACK COMEDIAN SHOW BEFORE AND IF THERE ARE ONLY A FEW WHITES IN THE CROWD, THEY ARE GOING TO BE SINGLED OUT AND RAGGED ON ALL NIGHT
You may not be, but you sure are quick to stand up for one
READ MY POSTS, I DIDNT SAY THE SITUATION IS OKAY, COUNTLESS TIMES I HAVE POSTED AND AGREED AS TO SAYING WHAT HE DID WAS WRONG.
PLEASE, OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES AND READ THIS....
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