Well fuck this. I am going to "bed." I'm not exactly at my house....but I wanted to see what was poppin in my thread. Ima be in a great mood at work tomorrow! ;)
No, masterbation isn't part of it. Her name is Shelly. :smilefu:
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Well fuck this. I am going to "bed." I'm not exactly at my house....but I wanted to see what was poppin in my thread. Ima be in a great mood at work tomorrow! ;)
No, masterbation isn't part of it. Her name is Shelly. :smilefu:
Those things are selling slow as molasses. They are also the worst quality truck you can buy. It is built in Mississippi and Nissan has already promised the next QX56 will be built in Japan.
I find it just awful inside and out.
lirl :lmfao:
bump
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Covered Trailer! Damn!
...I guess I will continue to drive my non-luxury Lexus.... :(
lol @ Toyota w/ leather seats.Quote:
Originally Posted by richw131
JFWY :D
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Originally Posted by Ran Kizama
hahahah toyota w/ leather seats :lmfao:
My friends Mercedes came in a inclosed climate controlled trailer.... so i guess everyone else is just a pile of steaming shit...
No comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Maybe, but your miata probably came in the bed of a pickup truck. :tongue1:Quote:
Originally Posted by DropTopDrifter
Dude, that was hilarious last night. I wasn't quite sure what the reaction was gonna be, lol. Good to meet you mang.Quote:
Originally Posted by BTLFED
take your non luxury ass leather seat nissans out of hurr... we dont need none of that shit.
Get a real luxury car, like a 3 series BMW or an E-class benz. Come in airtight containers, drive it out perfectly detailed. Matter of fact they dont even need to be detailed, theyre just that good.
fuckin ricers, ricer-luxury wtbes
who cares if its built in japan or america?Quote:
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
its still going to be the same car unless they decide to change the engine
making it in one country wont change how the car actually is, just the price
I didn't either. I figured we came off at eachother on the wrong foot, but I squashed it.....I didn't know if you had or not LOL :lmfao:Quote:
Originally Posted by kendogg
Nah, man, it's all good. See ya at the next meet!! :goodjob:Quote:
Originally Posted by BTLFED
I actually do. I want my luxury German cars made in Germany and my luxury Japanese cars made in Japan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulud
The Canton plant is one of the worst quality plants around and that they are building a luxury SUV has killed the Q56...This was a huge chance for Infiniti to grab large SUV market share and they blew it.
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/10/03/n...back-to-japan/
Unfortunately, slow sales of the Quest (down 28 percent so far this year) and QX56 have proven that production here in the U.S. is becoming too costly to justify and, according to the article, the plants in Japan have the ability retool and manufacture at a quicker rate.
http://subscribers.wardsauto.com/ar/...anton_quality/
Nissan Vows Canton Issues Remedied
By Christie Schweinsberg
WardsAuto.com, Apr 7, 2006 10:22 AM
The auto maker, which took a bruising two years ago for the quality of the vehicles from its newest plant, says it is working hard to fix its reputation.
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...601070335/1148
Experts cite Mississippi plant as problem with Nissan reliability
Four of the plant's five vehicles land on Consumer Reports' unreliable list
Holbrook Mohr / Associated Press
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JACKSON, Miss. -- Nissan Motor Co. officials are on the defensive after four of five vehicles produced at a key plant in the automaker's expansion plans topped the annual Consumer Reports list of unreliable vehicles.
Nissan officials acknowledge there were some initial problems with the vehicles produced at its sprawling Canton plant, which opened in 2003, but they point to other surveys showing the reliability of vehicles made there is improving.
Among the Canton-made vehicles that landed in the unreliable category of Consumer Reports' study -- which was based on surveys of 1 million consumers -- were Nissan's Armada sport utility vehicle, Quest minivan and Titan pickup, and the Infiniti QX56 SUV.
The Altima sedan -- also built at Nissan's old Smyrna, Tenn., plant -- was the only Canton-made vehicle that was not near the bottom of the list.
"It's difficult to actually put a reason on why they are so unreliable," said David Champion, director of automobile testing for Consumer Reports, a publication of the nonprofit Consumers Union. "But it is a little bit worrying when the worst plant in the U.S. is actually a Nissan import plant."
Champion said it is the first time in his eight years on the job that a single Japanese auto plant had such a poor showing.
Carlos Ghosn, Nissan's CEO, told The Clarion-Ledger newspaper during a recent tour of the plant that Nissan officials "were disappointed when the first quality numbers came out."
But he added "we've taken the challenge to bring up our numbers."
The Consumer Reports study does not reflect the improvements made since the 4,200-employee plant opened, said Nissan spokeswoman Vicki Smith. She noted another study released last May from Strategic Vision that showed Nissan to be the best full-line corporation in their quality index.
A spokesman for Strategic Vision, a San Diego-based automotive research and consulting firm hired by Nissan, said most of the 90,000 owners they interviewed were happy with their vehicles.
"They are having above average problems from their Canton plant, but it's a relative thing," said spokesman Daniel Gorrell. "A few bad apples don't ruin the bunch."
Consumer Reports found that the Titan pickup and the Armada SUV had an array of problems -- from faulty fuel systems to defective electric windows -- but those same vehicles came out on top of Strategic Vision's quality report.
The Titan also won "most satisfying" overall vehicle in September in the AutoPacific Vehicle Satisfaction Awards which interviewed about 35,000 Nissan owners. The Armada was the Tustin, Calif.-based automotive consultant's best SUV and the Quest tied for the top spot in the minivan category.
"They've paid a lot of attention to what the customer wants and they've come close to giving it to them," said AutoPacific President George Peterson. "There's just always a learning curve at a new plant with new products."
Chance Parker, an executive director with J.D. Power and Associates, which also rates vehicle dependability, said the automobiles produced in Canton had only about half as many problems this year as the previous year.
Models like the Quest minivan was J.D. Power's most improved vehicle in 2005, but Parker said it is still below average in reliability.
In 2004, J.D. Power found that the owners of some vehicles produced at the plant complained of rattles, leaks, vibrations and paint problems. Nissan brought in a team of engineers from Japan to address those problems but some consumers still have complaints.
So what was wrong with the Canton cars?
Parker said there is "no smoking gun. The cars had problems in a number of areas."
"They were dealing with an all new plant, all new workers and all new vehicle designs. In the best case, an all-new vehicle design is a challenge," Parker said. "So when you add all those things together, Nissan faced kind of a perfect storm as far as quality is concerned."
Parker expects the reliability of automobiles produced in Canton to continue to improve. But Consumer Reports' Champion is not so optimistic.
To put the problems in perspective, Champion said the most reliable car Consumer Reports found was the Toyota Prius, and only 4 percent of that car's owners reported problems with the vehicle.
"If you look at the worst reliable vehicle, which was the Infiniti QX56, 40 percent of those owners reported having problems with their vehicles," he said.
Among large SUVs, Infiniti's QX56 is likely to have about eight times as many problems as the most reliable model, the Toyota Land Cruiser, Champion said.
"It seems to be the major issues are the interior trim, doors, locks, linkages, seats and also power equipment and electrical items," Champion said. "It looks like it's more of a design issue with the braking system on the Armada and the Titan."
And, Champion said, Nissan's recently unveiled plans to move its headquarters and nearly 1,300 jobs from the Los Angeles area to suburban Nashville could mean more problems.
"If you take that into account, you're asking people to put in lots of extra hours and lots of extra work and you're telling them they've got to move out of beautiful southern California and to another facility," Champion said. "The morale of the work force is hurt quite considerably."
Nissan officials disagree.
"That's interesting to make that connection because if you think about what's in Los Angeles now are headquarters functions, sales and marketing, product planning," Smith said. "Those aren't the people who make the cars, so I don't think those two things are necessarily related."
I was always told Honda quality dropped slightly when they started making them in Indianna??Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulud
Damnit, I don't know your name 1siclex, but you beat em to it, lol. And I knew nothing of the Nissan woes anyways......
I'll be around, bet. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by kendogg
Mike...Quote:
Originally Posted by kendogg
I am not a badgewhore though I love Lexus and Porsche in particular. Lexus actually has a plant in Canada for RX 350s. Lexus however will only build the RX 400h and panorama roof RX 350s in Japan. though Lexus has done the best job with quality in a North American plant (Suburu/Honda/Toyota also does well here) we have many people who insist on a Japanese made RX.
Is about posting facts and respecting opinions..:)
The RX ranks right up there with the 56 as far as it being garbage. I compared TSBs and Campaigns with one of my friends that works parts at Lexus and they both have novels haha!Quote:
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Pfft, facts smacks.... J/K!!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
But thats crazy, I knew nothing about that Nissan issue.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/01/...frame-warpage/
Here's some facts, incase anybody didn't know, about the Z8. The initial cars modified by Dinan to fit the M5 headers which removed material from the frame helped worsen this problem.
W000 h000! Japanese and German cars can suck together! :lmfao:Quote:
Originally Posted by kendogg
LMAO. Yeah dude, tehre were plenty of Z8 owners that were FURIOUS. I mean, that car was a limited production, it could not be replaced. I'm sure they could re-tool and build more frames if it came down to it, but.....Quote:
Originally Posted by BTLFED
Yes this is becoming a huge issue, as many bought these cars not to drive but as an "investment' and well, who is going to want to buy a car that might snap in 2? It has pissed off A LOT of people.Quote:
Originally Posted by kendogg
http://www.bmwz8.us/vbb/showthread.php?t=717
This is just one forum with the issue.
All cars have TSBs, RX is the highest quality car in class. Stick to the facts and not what a "Friend" says :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BTLFED
http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/new...asp?ID=2006082
That link also shows the highest quality plants, which are cough cough, Lexus :)
http://www.lexus.com/models/RX/awards/index.html
The RX: Best Luxury SUV Value
RX 330 2006 SmartMoney Magazine (October 2005)
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Best Overall Value in Intermediate Utility over $28,000 Segment
RX 330 2005 IntelliChoice (May 2005)
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Highest Ranked Entry Luxury SUV in Initial Quality (IQS)
RX 330 2005 J.D. Power and Associates (May 2005)
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Most Appealing Luxury SUV (APEAL)
RX 330 2004 J.D. Power and Associates (October 2004)
Best SUV over $30,000
RX 330 2004 IntelliChoice (May 2004)
Highest Ranked Entry Luxury SUV in Initial Quality (IQS)
RX 330 2004 J.D. Power and Associates (April 2004)
Best Luxury SUV in Initial Quality (IQS)
RX 300 2001 J.D. Power and Associates (May 2001)
1999 Sport/Utility of the Year
RX 300 1999 Motor Trend (1999)
"Best Deal on the Road" Sport-Utility Class
RX 300 1999 Money magazine (1999)
http://www.infinitiqx56brakeproblems.com/
Just read that link name :)
I would be furious too! I mean, it's not like these people bought a $10k Civic. Even if they did retool and build more frames, who are they going to pay to swap them, and where would it be done? I don't think one could just go into their neighborhood BMW dealership with it and say "my frame is warped, I need it swapped out." :lmfao:Quote:
Originally Posted by kendogg
All the main TSBs on the QX56s have been brake related......doesn't make me feel all that great to step on the pedal. :lmfao:
So what your saying is that I shouldn't listen to Lexus? Because I saw the TSBs and campaigns on them with my own eyes. The RX has more problems than any other Lexus made, and that's fact. The binder for the RX is over twice the size of all the other models.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
You need to stop getting so defensive. What people voted on with that car doesn't reflect the long term of the car. Do you sell parts at a Lexus dealership? Do you even work at a dealership? Are you just basing this on what you read on the internet? I think you are.
I worked at a Ford dealership once. We had binders FULL of TSB's as well :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BTLFED
That doesn't suprise me hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by kendogg
Sir, I have A LOT of connections with Lexus, without working at a dealership :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BTLFED
I did not deny the RX or every Lexus has TSBs. The RX as I have proved is still the best selling and best quality vehicle in class. That is a fact that cannot be disputed. Yes, RXs have problems like all car, they just have the LEAST amount of them.
Top 10 Brands
These nameplates had the fewest problems per 100 vehicles after 3 years. (2003)
Brand Score
Lexus 163
Infiniti 174
Buick 179
Porsche 193
Acura 196
Toyota 201
Cadillac 209
Lincoln 212
Honda 218
Mercury 240
Top Vehicles
These vehicles had fewest problems in their segments.
Vehicle type Top ranked
Premium luxury Lexus LS 400
Entry-level luxury Lexus ES 300
Luxury SUV Lexus RX 300
Premium sports car Porsche 911
Full-size car Mercury Grand Marquis
Compact car Toyota Corolla
http://money.cnn.com/2003/07/08/pf/a...ility/?cnn=yes
The LEAST amount? Ya know what, fuck it. It's obvious that your googling means more than my REAL WORLD experience, so I am just going to leave it alone. You wanna think the internet is the gospel, then whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Now you are starting to sound like the nazi BMW owners.
toucheQuote:
Originally Posted by BTLFED
heres a lil somethin i made
If I had an m3 like that, I wouldnt mind having been neglected in High School, lol.
Bahahaha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulud
How about:
BMW: Because I love electrical Gremlins
hahaha