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10-25-2006, 10:29 AM
Vteckidd

no skyline no care :D

car looks sick, i agree on the outside looks though. not bad, but not great, im sure it will grow on me
10-25-2006, 10:34 AM
HalfBaked

God damn.

I forgot how fucking stupid the BMW owners on this site are.
10-25-2006, 10:44 AM
Vteckidd

If you dont think Infiniti is LUXURY, then youre retarded.

Any of the G35s, sedans or coupe, along with the M, can stand beside the BMWs, and mercedes in the respective classes IMO.

you cant compare a G35 to a M3 or M5 IMO. why:
1) M3 is a race cars heritage that BMW carries on. it has a much higher price tag compared to any Inifiniti sports car, sedan.
2) I dont think Infiniti ever tried to compete with BMW or Mercedes, they offered a product that had alot of the same creature comforts, with less price tag. sure they sacrificed the power, but so what. G35s still have some bite to their bark.

Bottom line is they are a luxury brand. I would consider them along with LExus, BMW, Mercedes. They may not have the brand allegiance that the others have , but i dont think they have been given the chance yet. Nissan an infiniti were about to go under 5 years ago. Look where they have gone in the last couple years.

If a guy WANTS the status symbol of a BMW, Mercedes, hes gonna buy those cars. But for the average to upper middle class person, looking to purchase a nice car with a good price that holds its value, along with sporty looks, the Infinity wins hands down IMO. BMW, Mercedes, Ferrari, LExus, Porchse, Landrover have always been for the "upper crowd" that want the status symbol, want to pay the money, and want to say they own one. i dont think infiniti markets itself that way. i think they say "hey, if you want BMW, Mercedes, Ferrari, LExus, Porchse, Landrover, go buy one, they are great cars. But if you want a car for a decent price , with the same options an features, come give us a chance". an i think it works great.

NIssan/Infiniti must be doming something right, as last i checked they were selling the most cars an had the highest profit of any car manufacturer. Plus, CArlos Ghosn is being bred to take over the big american 3.

IMO, fuck a BMW, id take a G35 anyday over an M3 simply for the fact that the breakdown to price ratio is better with the infiniti haha.
10-25-2006, 10:47 AM
The Yousef

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. 2JZKIDD

If you dont think Infiniti is LUXURY, then youre retarded.

Any of the G35s, sedans or coupe, along with the M, can stand beside the BMWs, and mercedes in the respective classes IMO.

you cant compare a G35 to a M3 or M5 IMO. why:
1) M3 is a race cars heritage that BMW carries on. it has a much higher price tag compared to any Inifiniti sports car, sedan.
2) I dont think Infiniti ever tried to compete with BMW or Mercedes, they offered a product that had alot of the same creature comforts, with less price tag. sure they sacrificed the power, but so what. G35s still have some bite to their bark.

Bottom line is they are a luxury brand. I would consider them along with LExus, BMW, Mercedes. They may not have the brand allegiance that the others have , but i dont think they have been given the chance yet. Nissan an infiniti were about to go under 5 years ago. Look where they have gone in the last couple years.

If a guy WANTS the status symbol of a BMW, Mercedes, hes gonna buy those cars. But for the average to upper middle class person, looking to purchase a nice car with a good price that holds its value, along with sporty looks, the Infinity wins hands down IMO. BMW, Mercedes, Ferrari, LExus, Porchse, Landrover have always been for the "upper crowd" that want the status symbol, want to pay the money, and want to say they own one. i dont think infiniti markets itself that way. i think they say "hey, if you want BMW, Mercedes, Ferrari, LExus, Porchse, Landrover, go buy one, they are great cars. But if you want a car for a decent price , with the same options an features, come give us a chance". an i think it works great.

NIssan/Infiniti must be doming something right, as last i checked they were selling the most cars an had the highest profit of any car manufacturer. Plus, CArlos Ghosn is being bred to take over the big american 3.

IMO, fuck a BMW, id take a G35 anyday over an M3 simply for the fact that the breakdown to price ratio is better with the infiniti haha.

well said michael....well said indeed :goodjob: +eleventy
10-25-2006, 10:50 AM
Vteckidd

plus, my friend knew the head mechanic at Ferrari in Scotsdale AZ, and he would call me when new cars got dropped off, cause he would have to have his guys PDI them. Their PDI bay was right next to where the Ferrari Challenge cars were stored, i used to help them actually when i was bored an off work.

PWNZORED

Ferrari ships there acrs enclosed i suspect for several reasons:
1) who wants a rock chip on a $150000+ car
2) im sure they dont want the fast an the furious crowd going "hey look, theres a truck full of ferraris"

use your head
10-25-2006, 01:29 PM
kendogg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. 2JZKIDD

If you dont think Infiniti is LUXURY, then youre retarded.

Any of the G35s, sedans or coupe, along with the M, can stand beside the BMWs, and mercedes in the respective classes IMO.

you cant compare a G35 to a M3 or M5 IMO. why:
1) M3 is a race cars heritage that BMW carries on. it has a much higher price tag compared to any Inifiniti sports car, sedan.
2) I dont think Infiniti ever tried to compete with BMW or Mercedes, they offered a product that had alot of the same creature comforts, with less price tag. sure they sacrificed the power, but so what. G35s still have some bite to their bark.

Bottom line is they are a luxury brand. I would consider them along with LExus, BMW, Mercedes. They may not have the brand allegiance that the others have , but i dont think they have been given the chance yet. Nissan an infiniti were about to go under 5 years ago. Look where they have gone in the last couple years.

If a guy WANTS the status symbol of a BMW, Mercedes, hes gonna buy those cars. But for the average to upper middle class person, looking to purchase a nice car with a good price that holds its value, along with sporty looks, the Infinity wins hands down IMO. BMW, Mercedes, Ferrari, LExus, Porchse, Landrover have always been for the "upper crowd" that want the status symbol, want to pay the money, and want to say they own one. i dont think infiniti markets itself that way. i think they say "hey, if you want BMW, Mercedes, Ferrari, LExus, Porchse, Landrover, go buy one, they are great cars. But if you want a car for a decent price , with the same options an features, come give us a chance". an i think it works great.

NIssan/Infiniti must be doming something right, as last i checked they were selling the most cars an had the highest profit of any car manufacturer. Plus, CArlos Ghosn is being bred to take over the big american 3.

IMO, fuck a BMW, id take a G35 anyday over an M3 simply for the fact that the breakdown to price ratio is better with the infiniti haha.

Whatever you say man. Fact of the matter is, is no matter the price tag, an equal BMW will out-do an equal Infiniti. Doens't matter the 'cost difference'. If you've got the money, I'm sure you'd buy one over an Infiniti, irriguardless of the 'value' in an Infiniti. I'd feel safer in a roll over in a BMW. I'd feel safer weaving thru traffic in a BMW. And I'd feel safer on the track in a BMW. The BMW will outlast the Infiniti in daily hard driving or racing. There are plenty of track-only BMW's, club racers, DE cars, etc., that have seen NOTHING but the racetrack for years, with 75-100k miles or more on them of track ONLY use, original motors, tranny's, etc. Like I said to the other guy man. Get a grip. There's a reason you pay a premium price for a premium car, and it isn't always for a brand name. You might not see the reasons in day to day driving. You might not even see the reasons when it's time to do maintenence. Yeah, some BMW's are un-godly expensive to maintain. When those BMW's hit 200k miles, 250k, or even 300k plus, what do you think the % of those cars are that are in great driving condition,e verythign still works, interior isn't falling apart, etc., is, compared to the japanese counterparts? I RARELY see a japanese car with that many miles on it that isn't falling apart. The drivetrains may be stout, but the rest of the car SURE isn't.
10-25-2006, 01:32 PM
HalfBaked

Quote:

Originally Posted by kendogg

There are plenty of track-only BMW's, club racers, DE cars, etc., that have seen NOTHING but the racetrack for years, with 75-100k miles or more on them of track ONLY use, original motors, tranny's, etc.

BACK UP THAT STATEMENT.

SHOW ME PLENTY OF BMW THAT HAVE OVER 75K OF PURELY TRACK MILES ON THEM WITH STOCK MOTORS AND TRANNYS.
10-25-2006, 01:38 PM
kendogg

Quote:

Originally Posted by HalfBaked

BACK UP THAT STATEMENT.

SHOW ME PLENTY OF BMW THAT HAVE OVER 75K OF PURELY TRACK MILES ON THEM WITH STOCK MOTORS AND TRANNYS.

Let me make a post on bimmerforums on the track section, adn I'll post a link here to that thread, and you can watch for yourself, k jackass?
10-25-2006, 01:40 PM
HalfBaked

Quote:

Originally Posted by kendogg

Let me make a post on bimmerforums on the track section, adn I'll post a link here to that thread, and you can watch for yourself, k jackass?

Ok remember the requirements though.

Must have over 75k track miles on stock motor and stock tranny.

So they must have spent over 75000 miles on a track...
10-25-2006, 01:40 PM
kendogg

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...58#post7761358
10-25-2006, 01:42 PM
kendogg

Quote:

Originally Posted by HalfBaked

Ok remember the requirements though.

Must have over 75k track miles on stock motor and stock tranny.

So they must have spent over 75000 miles on a track...

There ya go. Lets see where this goes, shall we? :cheers:
10-25-2006, 01:42 PM
ironchef

Quote:

Originally Posted by HalfBaked

BACK UP THAT STATEMENT.

SHOW ME PLENTY OF BMW THAT HAVE OVER 75K OF PURELY TRACK MILES ON THEM WITH STOCK MOTORS AND TRANNYS.

If he can back that up, then Tupac and Elvis are alive and had kids together LOL. So, in another words I doubt he could.
10-25-2006, 01:45 PM
HalfBaked

LOL@local ricer board.
10-25-2006, 01:45 PM
kendogg

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironchef

If he can back that up, then Tupac and Elvis are alive and had kids together LOL. So, in another words I doubt he could.

Why not just shut it and watch the thread I linked ad see what happens for yourself? Then you can prove me wrong if you still see fit.
10-25-2006, 01:46 PM
DinanM3atl

Quote:

Originally Posted by HalfBaked

God damn.

I forgot how fucking stupid the BMW owners on this site are.

Don't call me stupid, if I was stupid I would have bought a japanese car.
10-25-2006, 01:47 PM
kendogg

Quote:

Originally Posted by HalfBaked

LOL@local ricer board.

It's true. Try to sit there and tell me it isn't.
10-25-2006, 01:49 PM
HalfBaked

Quote:

Originally Posted by kendogg

Why not just shut it and watch the thread I linked ad see what happens for yourself? Then you can prove me wrong if you still see fit.

Well so far they don't seem to agree with you...
10-25-2006, 01:52 PM
ironchef

Quote:

There is a debate on importatlanta.com, the local 'ricer' board here, and some don't seem to beleive that a car such as a BMW will last and last and last on the track. From what I've read before, there are plenty of track-only cars that have seen 75k+ miles on them of track-only use, with original motors and tranny's. I beleive this to be true, but could be wrong. They don't seem to believe that anything but a jap car can last 200k+. Discuss. Thanks.

Your post is pretty retarded I gotta say. First you talk about bmw track cars lasting 75k+, which is dumb in and of itself. I love bmws as much as the next guy, but without major work they aint lasting 75k miles on a track. Who said that only jap cars can last 200k+, and in that phrasing youre just saying in general not on a track, so basically you're comparing apples and oranges.
10-25-2006, 02:01 PM
DinanM3atl

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. 2JZKIDD

If you dont think Infiniti is LUXURY, then youre retarded.

Any of the G35s, sedans or coupe, along with the M, can stand beside the BMWs, and mercedes in the respective classes IMO.

you cant compare a G35 to a M3 or M5 IMO. why:
1) M3 is a race cars heritage that BMW carries on. it has a much higher price tag compared to any Inifiniti sports car, sedan.
2) I dont think Infiniti ever tried to compete with BMW or Mercedes, they offered a product that had alot of the same creature comforts, with less price tag. sure they sacrificed the power, but so what. G35s still have some bite to their bark.

Bottom line is they are a luxury brand. I would consider them along with LExus, BMW, Mercedes. They may not have the brand allegiance that the others have , but i dont think they have been given the chance yet. Nissan an infiniti were about to go under 5 years ago. Look where they have gone in the last couple years.

If a guy WANTS the status symbol of a BMW, Mercedes, hes gonna buy those cars. But for the average to upper middle class person, looking to purchase a nice car with a good price that holds its value, along with sporty looks, the Infinity wins hands down IMO. BMW, Mercedes, Ferrari, LExus, Porchse, Landrover have always been for the "upper crowd" that want the status symbol, want to pay the money, and want to say they own one. i dont think infiniti markets itself that way. i think they say "hey, if you want BMW, Mercedes, Ferrari, LExus, Porchse, Landrover, go buy one, they are great cars. But if you want a car for a decent price , with the same options an features, come give us a chance". an i think it works great.

NIssan/Infiniti must be doming something right, as last i checked they were selling the most cars an had the highest profit of any car manufacturer. Plus, CArlos Ghosn is being bred to take over the big american 3.

IMO, fuck a BMW, id take a G35 anyday over an M3 simply for the fact that the breakdown to price ratio is better with the infiniti haha.

If you would take a G35 over an E46 M3 you are retarded. You know what else. My E36 M3 is EQUAL IN STRAIGHT LINE PERFORMANCE WITH A G35! AND IT IS ALMOST 10 YEARS OLD! What say you to that? I have a smaller motor, less power and a little less weight! I will own it even farther at the track. I hate to tell you but guess what dude, they are almost equal on price, and the G35 is newest, the E46 M3 has been around since 01, you gonna run this same bullshit when the new v8 M3 comes out and stomps that G35?

BMW are for owners who demand more than "I have a luxury car". THey want to carve corners, they want acceleration and want to know where the heritage of the car is! That is BMWs heritage, people recognize the roundel worldwide, its sad that here in the states because you are loyal to BMW you are a snobbish asshole.
10-25-2006, 02:03 PM
HalfBaked

Quote:

Originally Posted by DinanM3atl

its sad that here in the states because you are loyal to BMW you are a snobbish asshole.

Thats the most ironic statement.

There is a difference between being loyal to a brand and talking shit about every other brand. Thats what you do, you aren't loyal, you're an elitist prick.
10-25-2006, 02:14 PM
DinanM3atl

Quote:

Originally Posted by HalfBaked

Thats the most ironic statement.

There is a difference between being loyal to a brand and talking shit about every other brand. Thats what you do, you aren't loyal, you're an elitist prick.

That is nice, I knocked Japanese cars, so im an elitiest prick?

I love Jeep, porsche, ferrari, Benz, I would purchase an STI, There are many vehicles besides BMW i love, none are japanese, so im an elitist prick.. good one.
10-25-2006, 02:15 PM
HalfBaked

Quote:

Originally Posted by DinanM3atl

That is nice, I knocked Japanese cars, so im an elitiest prick?

I love Jeep, porsche, ferrari, Benz, I would purchase an STI, There are many vehicles besides BMW i love, none are japanese, so im an elitist prick.. good one.

STi is Japanese though?

And you said stupid people buy Japanese cars dumbfuck. That makes you elitist. Thinking that because you don't have something you are better then someone.
10-25-2006, 02:19 PM
DinanM3atl

HaHa, i never said because I have a BMW I am better, where did i say that? Is it because I won't buy a cheap japanese car? That makes me an elitist?
10-25-2006, 02:20 PM
DinanM3atl

Quote:

Originally Posted by HalfBaked

Thats the most ironic statement.

There is a difference between being loyal to a brand and talking shit about every other brand. Thats what you do, you aren't loyal, you're an elitist prick.

How?

Here in the states, If i am driving down 85 and pass you at a high rate of speed. The first thing that crosses peoples minds is...

"fucking asshole BMW owner, thinks he owns the fucking road"
10-25-2006, 02:21 PM
DinanM3atl

This is a mute arguement for me,

I bouhgt my M3 because it is nice, and the best part about it, even in STOCK form it is a track beast, i love the track and the M3 is the ultimate street/track car.
10-25-2006, 02:21 PM
HalfBaked

Quote:

Originally Posted by DinanM3atl

How?

Here in the states, If i am driving down 85 and pass you at a high rate of speed. The first thing that crosses peoples minds is...

"fucking asshole BMW owner, thinks he owns the fucking road"

No, you said if you were stupid you'd buy a Japanese car...

That makes me think you think anyone who buys a Japanese car is stupid.

I don't see how you don't see that.
10-25-2006, 02:25 PM
The Yousef

Quote:

Originally Posted by kendogg

Whatever you say man. Fact of the matter is, is no matter the price tag, an equal BMW will out-do an equal Infiniti. Doens't matter the 'cost difference'. If you've got the money, I'm sure you'd buy one over an Infiniti, irriguardless of the 'value' in an Infiniti. I'd feel safer in a roll over in a BMW. I'd feel safer weaving thru traffic in a BMW. And I'd feel safer on the track in a BMW. The BMW will outlast the Infiniti in daily hard driving or racing. There are plenty of track-only BMW's, club racers, DE cars, etc., that have seen NOTHING but the racetrack for years, with 75-100k miles or more on them of track ONLY use, original motors, tranny's, etc. Like I said to the other guy man. Get a grip. There's a reason you pay a premium price for a premium car, and it isn't always for a brand name. You might not see the reasons in day to day driving. You might not even see the reasons when it's time to do maintenence. Yeah, some BMW's are un-godly expensive to maintain. When those BMW's hit 200k miles, 250k, or even 300k plus, what do you think the % of those cars are that are in great driving condition,e verythign still works, interior isn't falling apart, etc., is, compared to the japanese counterparts? I RARELY see a japanese car with that many miles on it that isn't falling apart. The drivetrains may be stout, but the rest of the car SURE isn't.

THAT'S IT!

I'M GETTING YOU FIRED AND KEYING YOUR COMPASS AT WORK 2MORROW...
10-25-2006, 02:29 PM
The Yousef

how about we settle this on the track?

my prelude versus ken's compass! :burnout:
10-25-2006, 02:30 PM
DinanM3atl

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durka Prince

how about we settle this on the track?

my prelude versus ken's compass! :burnout:

Hell no Ken's E30 verse your prelude.

i got money on the 20 year old bmw
10-25-2006, 02:32 PM
ironchef

So that thread on bimmer forums has been up now for what an hour? And not even a shread of evidence to back up your ridiculous claims, why am I not suprised.
10-25-2006, 02:34 PM
The Yousef

Quote:

Originally Posted by DinanM3atl

Hell no Ken's E30 verse your prelude.

i got money on the 20 year old bmw

bring it....
:bump:
10-25-2006, 02:34 PM
BTEC

Quote:

Originally Posted by DinanM3atl

Hell no Ken's E30 verse your prelude.

i got money on the 20 year old bmw

DOUBLE THAT AND I GOT MY MONEY ON THE PRELUDE.
10-25-2006, 02:36 PM
The Yousef

Quote:

Originally Posted by BTEC

DOUBLE THAT AND I GOT MY MONEY ON THE PRELUDE.

thanks jesse...

plus...ken's e30 is technically not running yet (or street legal)...:D
10-25-2006, 02:37 PM
HalfBaked

Quote:

Originally Posted by DinanM3atl

Hell no Ken's E30 verse your prelude.

i got money on the 20 year old bmw

What kind of track?

And when?

And could this possibly become 3-way?
10-25-2006, 02:38 PM
DinanM3atl

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durka Prince

thanks jesse...

plus...ken's e30 is technically not running yet (or street legal)...:D

Yes it does, it runs, and it is street legal, completely OEM everything.

Has bad gas in it from sitting.
10-25-2006, 02:39 PM
The Yousef

Quote:

Originally Posted by HalfBaked

What kind of track?

And when?

And could this possibly become 3-way?

3-way ftw!

we are going to menage a trois his ass!!!

wait...

that sounded gay.... :fruit:

n/m
10-25-2006, 02:41 PM
The Yousef

Quote:

Originally Posted by DinanM3atl

Yes it does, it runs, and it is street legal, completely OEM everything.

Has bad gas in it from sitting.

he told me a couple days back it wasn't.....:???: :thinking:

unless the tire fumes finally got to me....:screwy:

anyways....i got veetak and 4 wheel double wishbones ...so fuk him (remember double your fun with doublemint gum)

http://www.walgreens.com/dbimagecache/113329.gif
10-25-2006, 02:43 PM
HalfBaked

I have a bone stock sentra se-r.
10-25-2006, 02:47 PM
The Yousef

Quote:

Originally Posted by HalfBaked

I have a bone stock sentra se-r.

i can vouch for that...it's slow as balls and looks like poo....gay poo

actually...i'll let matt race him instead!

it will be more fun....:D
10-25-2006, 02:47 PM
DinanM3atl

i dont care what suspension you have :)

I have witnessed E30s keep up with Z06 vettes and E36 racecars at Road Atlanta!

And if the sentra is in so am i

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