Scenario 1
Guy thinks he is talking to underage female online, then agrees to meet. Guy actually shows up.
He was intending to act upon his internet intentions = Go to Jail, you are a sick fucker
Scenario 2
Guy thinks he is talking to underage female online, then agrees to meet. Guy does NOT show up.
Could have been online bullshit = Do not fully agree with sending to jail.
Rich...Bob...Stan...?????
didnt cam'ron have something like this b4
Originally Posted by Sinfix_15
Supposedly these men know they are talking to a minor. They are not lured into thinking this person is of legal age and then go to meet. My understanding of it is that they "know" they are talking to a 12-13 year old. I have absolutely no problems with it that way. Otherwise I would think it is entrapment if they lead them on to believe they are of consenting/legal age.
Hmmm.... never thought juice could be this much fun.
its STILL SICK man!
twoONEoh
The debate on whether or not "sting" operations are entrapment has been around for years. I don't really have a problem with them if the cops are posing as buyers of illegal goods or services because nobody is forcing the sellers into doing anything they weren't already going to do. But when it comes to cops acting as sellers of illegal goods and services it gets pretty dicey, if you think about it. Anybody can be talked into anything if you're a good enough salesman. Tempting people into breaking the law where as they may normally never do anything wrong in their lives is a pretty dark road to start down.
SUPRISE!!!!!!1
but see here is my problem w/ this...i think what they are doing is fine. in this case entrapment is all good. i mean the guys still know the girl is 15, so they should know better. it doesnt matter who started the conversation, the guy should know better than to attempt to stick his dick in a 15 year old
1) there was never a 15 yr old girl, so if your lying to get you to do something bad to me its like dangaling drugs in front of a drug addict... do you think they will pass?
2) what about the guys who just talk online... technically they aren't talking to a 15 yr old, so how can they then be charged for solicitating a minor if they never pursued anything? they aren't only arresting the guys who come out but the ones that just talk online.
anyone who commits a crime should do the time, but its like the age old test of honesty... put a wallet w/ 20$ on the sidewalk see if someone turns it in or pockets the $when you play w/ peoples minds they do fucked up shit. i bet if they did the same scenerio with people going through bitter divorces yet not w/ kids but pluging in ideas of murdering their ex; its very possible that idea will make one act upon it.
110% agree
and the shit some of them are saying to these predators are 10 fold.... their pulling out all of the stops...
15 y/o know a lot but damn.. their chatting like phone secks operators..
twoONEoh
their whole case is based upon intent...i remember they would get them to bring beer and jimmy hats to further show intent.
i agree with what they're doing...i remember they would make it clear that the person was underage...and also...you wouldn't want your kid talking to some sick fucker online...even if they didn't meet...it's still fucked up. and besides...maybe that guy didn't show up that time...but next time he might. the problem i saw was that despite being busted before...they kept coming back...so it shows that apparently time in prison isn't enough.
i dunno if any of you have heard about lt.governor mark taylor...wants to push the death penalty for repeat child molesters...perhaps might be what it takes to keep these assholes away from kids.
I understand the intent, but Paul is talking about the other guys that DON'T COME and still get prosecuted..
death penalty for repeat child molesters? fine by me..
twoONEoh
all in all its a fucked up situation...
but its a sick world for children.... and the internet just makes accessbility greater..
twoONEoh
even if they don't come they've still been having sexual conversations with a child
still pretty bad
no they've been having conversations w/ an adult who is feeding them to get certain answers... its one thing if the guy is online searching out underage kids. but for a cop to get online to instigate actions is wrong to me... your playing the devil on the shoulders of these guys feeding them things to get actions out of them.
^^^^ Exactly
One thing is for them to sit and wait to be preyed upon in chatrooms and catch the real hardcore molestors in the act. Another is for them to start "Harrassing" any innocent guy in a chatroom with "hi, 15/yo here. Want to talk?", then enticing them with virginity and panty stories in hopes that the guy would say the right (or wrong?) thing to have a case / to be arrested.
I got free clear tails with my ride.....
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