NEVER do business with

[Vteckidd]

TOM HERE AGAIN ON MIKE'S USER NAME

well he did say "the shop wanted him to tow it back there" but the axles were messed up so obviously he talked to the shop....

Dude I AM the guy he said he called at the shop!!!

He is lying - point blank dude.

[Vteckidd]

Private MESSAGE From "ACCORDON17's"

Im also not posting anymore in the thread til i get in touch with them and hear there side. Last week they said they would not warranty anything when i called them and told them the clutch was slippin, he was just talkin about parts now that i think about it tho. also not all the post were by me, some were by my friend when i was away from the computer.

someones not telling the truth

[Spyder]

also not all the post were by me, some were by my friend when i was away from the computer.

someones not telling the truth

or that is the truth and he needs new friends.

[batlbrandon]

LIKE I SAID I AM NOT TAKING SIDES ON THE SITUATION. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH AHS. don't make this more than it is. I am merely defending his right to post it up.

[4dmin]

as tom said, he was lying , no attempt was made to talk to the shop in question.

I will take toms word over this guys, sorry.

like i said before 3 sides to every story.... his + thiers + the truth

[B16a2 Civic]

this is just getting worse and worse....i guess his "friend " was " lookin out for him"

[RutRoe]

Here's my Beef.

One, I love Tom and I know what kind of a person he is and how much he values people's honesty in business. If you meet Tom and can't take that away from the conversation then I don't think he'd want you as a customer to deal with.

Two, what sort of Asshat gets used parts from a junkyard,albeit one that I use and like, and expects them to function as new. If you paid for a bunch of crap that wasn't right and then drop it off and tell Tom to install it, guess what he's going to do? INSTALL IT>

Three, I really like Batlground because of Tracy and what I've heard of Dan. I think it's more than fair to say that if I heard or saw some idiot talking crap and leaving out important details about what happened that I would think of the shop first and the possiblities.

You see Brandon businesses should be a lot closer nit group then you maybe think. You guys aren't competition to each other, but certainly being allies would be more than easy. If you are the one signing the checks and you think that idiots starting bullshit threads about your shop in the future are cool, then don't change your position.

but if you realize how weaksauce that is and realize that you can have respect for fellow businessmen, then maybe just give it a " you're right.. should have heard both sides of the story"

Golden Rule Bitches.

[Julio]

this kid needs to be ban for talking BS. what a jackass.

[accordon17s]

Alright fuck the bullshit and fuck Tom, i dont have time to deal with your lies. I have tried to make contact with u and to no avail. I guess ill just be reporting your business tactics to the the the better business buearu for not standing behind your work aka your labor. Oh and one more comment as a shop with such a "good reputation" if the parts looked to be less than great y would u not call the customer and tell them that, y would u install so called shitty parts. Lastly you did use one axle from a 99 and one axle from a 98, reason i know this is bc when i went to drop off the axles at honda to get my core charge, they made that exact comment to me. That right there threw up a red flag to me and was the final straw. I happen to know any other shop would warranty ANY and ALL work completed by them. Now i am through with this and through with Tom and anyone at AHS. Have a good life.

[Vteckidd]

TOM HERE AGAIN

You keep saying "wrong flywheel" but what about it made it the "wrong" flywheel? the clutch engaged absolutely perfectly, and you drove the car home and even bragged about your racing exploits, so again you're full of it bro. If it had been in fact "wrong" then it was have been obvious the first time the car was driven. Your "family friend" mechanic that seems to know everything should have done the swap in the first place since it seems that he can distinguish between a 1998 part and a 1999 part even though they look physically identical. also lest we not forget again that M&S supplied the parts, and the car drove fine the day it left our shop.

You just want to cry because you burned up your clutch by street racing everything in sight and/or your USED clutch hydraulics took a shit and the easiest thing to do is deny all responsibility and blame the shop who did the work.

Classic.

Alright fuck the bullshit and fuck Tom, i dont have time to deal with your lies. I have tried to make contact with u and to no avail.

Well I guess it boils down to your word versus mine here unfortunately, but can you name the dates and times in which you tried to call me? I have only been out one day in the past few months, and any other day if I'm at lunch you will be aksed to "call back" and you have not spoken with me at all since you called the day after your car was done.

Another example of your lies:

When you were trying to reach me one day after your car was towed in I was on a test drive when you called. You told my boss "well give his cel number. He called me from it one time and even said it was breaking up..."

Well I've got news for you bro - I don't even own a cel phone!!! My boss (the owner) knew something was up with you from the get-go, but I kept he at bay by saying you were probably just overzealous about getting it all started.

I guess ill just be reporting your business tactics to the the the better business buearu for not standing behind your work aka your labor.

Fell free to as you have no argument. There was no written, spoken, or implied warranty on the work because YOU SUPPLIED ALL OF THE USED PARTS. Like I said before, had you actually called me and spoken with me I would have gladly taken a look at the car, but again you bypassed that and took the immature shit-talking route and now you look like a total dumbass in front of everyone.

Oh and one more comment as a shop with such a "good reputation" if the parts looked to be less than great y would u not call the customer and tell them that, y would u install so called shitty parts.

I told you from the beginning that I recommended a new clutch, but again you went el-cheapo and said "I can't aford one and I'll do it later" even after I advised that you'd be wasting money on labopr again sooner than later because stock clutches don't hold up well when abused.

Lastly you did use one axle from a 99 and one axle from a 98, reason i know this is bc when i went to drop off the axles at honda to get my core charge, they made that exact comment to me. That right there threw up a red flag to me and was the final straw.

I just called Nalley Honda at (770)306-4600 in parts, and the wholesale manager looked up the parts you are talking about and guess what?

THERE IS NO CORE CHARGE ON THEIR 1998 OR 1999 ACCORD 4 CYLINDER, 5 SPEED AXLES!!!

Also I spoke with their parts manager who has been in Honda parts for DECADES and he said there is no way any parts guy he knows could visually distinguish between a 1998 and 1999 Accord 4 cyl. axle!!!

Caught in yet another lie, eh Steve-O? Anyone else can call your local honda dealership and verofy this - please do so and you'll see that this kid is lying to try and bolster his position, and also to try and make my shop look bad.

I happen to know any other shop would warranty ANY and ALL work completed by them.

False.

I cannot think of any shop that would warranty a wear item such as a clutch seeing as how the customer supplied the USED clutch against the advise of the service mananger! Clutch hydraulics such as the slave and master cylinders only come with a 12/12 warranty brand new from Honda, so again how do we warranty used hydraulics that you supplied?

Now i am through with this and through with Tom and anyone at AHS. Have a good life.

You were through with me the last time you called over a month ago when you told me about your awesome bullshit street racing story!

You have it set in your mind that you were wronged by my shop for whatever reason. You have NOT called me even still after this topic was posted, and I seriously doubt that you will ever call because you are the kind of person who hides behind a PC and talk infinite shit regardless of the truth.

Thank GOD that you are "done" with my shop, because honestly there are some people that you do not want as customers, and you are a shining example of that.

[B16a2 Civic]

TOM HERE AGAIN





I just called Nalley Honda at (770)306-4600 in parts, and the wholesale manager looked up the parts you are talking about and guess what?

THERE IS NO CORE CHARGE ON THEIR 1998 OR 1999 ACCORD 4 CYLINDER, 5 SPEED AXLES!!!

Also I spoke with their parts manager who has been in Honda parts for DECADES and he said there is no way any parts guy he knows could visually distinguish between a 1998 and 1999 Accord 4 cyl. axle!!!

Caught in yet another lie, eh Steve-O? Anyone else can call your local honda dealership and verofy this - please do so and you'll see that this kid is lying to try and bolster his position, and also to try and make my shop look bad.



False.

thats the backbreaker.......i actually did speak to my friend at a honda dealership ( just now ) who does finacing and he yelled out to a guy in the parts dept and he said the same thing.....i just would like to know your response to this one......ay Tom, i dun kno if this would be customer/company privacy or somethin, but what swap was it and how much was it? if you cant say, its coo i understand

[A.P. Photography]

Lastly you did use one axle from a 99 and one axle from a 98, reason i know this is bc when i went to drop off the axles at honda to get my core charge, they made that exact comment to me. That right there threw up a red flag to me and was the final straw. .

You are a certified Dumbass. I have worked in parts for roughly 8 years and two years as a tech and there is NO WAY you can tell them apart by just looking at them.

Man look, you screwed up by taking the cheap way out and buying used parts and insisting that A&H install them when advised not to. Apparently you did a burn out in the parking lot and then went out street racing that night so that right there probably says a lot to what ended the parts life early. And no shop that I know of or have worked at will warranty any work when supplied with the parts by the customer. That is all on you, not the shop. If you can't afford to do it right the first time, then you need to hold off till you can.

[B16a2 Civic]

ay mayne...you cant be madd...he did the work w/ the parts you brought....you might wanna blame the person you bought the parts from, i dont know Tom nor done buinsess with his company, nor do i know you, i have no allegiance to any of you so this is how i see it the outside lookin in......if you give tha man lemons and ask him to make orange juice you kno he's gon do....make a sour ass orange juice made of lemons....

[accordon17s]

I have talked to the parts supplier they said since its been past there 30 day warranty period they cannot help me. There really is nothing i can do about the parts bc the warranty is up. Yah so maybe they did provide shitty parts, but if the parts were so shitty y would u not call me was my point. Last convo i had w/ them before the install they told me parts were in and look good. So basically they lied to me, they also installed the incorrect flywheel and it would have been obvious to tell that (the shop that has my car made that comment). They are not tryin to make money off me they are a friend of my families so i dont think they would lie to me.

[B16a2 Civic]

i dunno, maybe talking face to face and havin a mature conversation without placing blame ...you might be able to work somethin out, he seems like a caring guy and his buisness seems to be doing good, might have to mewet somewhere in the middle to work somethin out.....but good luck to you and your new motor though

[accordon17s]

Tom im through with u and ur bullshit shop. U might as well stop running your dick sucker and prepare to have a investigation by the better business bureau. Once again i said shops would warranty there LABOR not the parts. I dont wanna talk to ur faggot ass so i wont be callin u. So shut the fuck up and go ruin some more cars.
By the way the honda dealership took one look at the axles and could tell they were not from the same car or from the same year.

[Vteckidd]

Tom im through with u and ur bullshit shop. U might as well stop running your dick sucker and prepare to have a suit brought against u along with an investigation by the better business bureau. Once again i said shops would warranty there LABOR not the parts. I dont wanna talk to ur faggot ass so i wont be callin u. So shut the fuck up and go ruin some more cars.
By the way the honda dealership took one look at the axles and could tell they were not from the same car or from the same year.

TOM AGAIN...

See the real you comes through now, doesn't it?

If you really want to sue be my guest. We have legal counsel on call for instances such as this where a customer brings on false accusations. Please show me the work order where we expressed your warranty on the work using your supplied used parts - oh that's right, you cannot because there WAS NO WARRANTY - PERIOD!!!

[A.P. Photography]

Tom im through with u and ur bullshit shop. U might as well stop running your dick sucker and prepare to have a investigation by the better business bureau. Once again i said shops would warranty there LABOR not the parts. I dont wanna talk to ur faggot ass so i wont be callin u. So shut the fuck up and go ruin some more cars.
By the way the honda dealership took one look at the axles and could tell they were not from the same car or from the same year.

That is funny, there is not a single shop that will warranty labor on used parts or parts supplied by the customer. If a shop does then they just want to go out of business.

[Brett]

I am locking this thread, this is total BS!! The shop was not at fault obviously, A person wupplies used parts and then expect them to be like new.

The shop did no wrong

[99SI]

Having a used car lot and dealing with several shops, used parts that are supplied by customers are never warrantied, not even labor. It is because of people like Accordon17's that I don't sell $2000 or less cars. No matter how many times you tell someone, "you are buying an $800 car, it may break in a day, maybe a year, there is no warranty on this vehicle." As soon as something happens or breaks on the car, they always do the same thing, talk shit about your car lot and say you sold them a bad car and screwed them over. You buy cheap shit, you get cheap shit, it's as easy as that.

[99SI]

The BBB does not do investigations over bullshit claims such as yourself. They make a notation in a file, but that's the extent of it. The BBB is nothing but a reference service and can do nothing against his shop. If you do file a grievance with the BBB the shop will have a chance to refute your claim and since Tom has definately got the better argument here I'm sure it will never make it into record.

[HiPSI]

i vote for BAN on accord boy... he's talking mad shit and can't back up a single bit of it.

[quickdodge®]

IATL. Later, QD.