07 will still b all nissan biatch!
07 will still b all nissan biatch!
they might look nice , but there isnt any quality thereOriginally Posted by Deaf Pimp
i wasnt callin u out billy....shouldnt you be lookin for ur hat!
What do you mean by quality? Interior quality, build quality? Mercedes has a great reputation for very reliable drivetrains... and most of the Chrysler drivetrains are now from Mercedes parts bin.
2005.5 Audi A4 2.0t QuattroAPR 93/100 Chip
internals...a family friend is the head tech for ford in the southeast, they ripped apart the new chrysler vehicles...the mix of components doesnt benifit they longivity what-so-ever
most of the daimler vehicles are mercedes powered anyway..
gm's not so bad, guys!
haha i wont tell baby!
tell what? i had an s-10 for my first vehicle. lol quite a few stories to be told about THAT one! hahaha
you have very important pm
hahhaha, yeah, i saw that. i remember that... who was it that said it tho?
i lost it.. FUCK lol
another one bites teh dust!
I seriously doubt even if there is a merger or anything like that that nissan cars will start to be built like gms.
actually it would b the otherway around
I doubt it would go either way truthfully. Both would continue buidling the way they have. I think its the Nissan management that would try and change things at GM..
so i could have a jdm gto?
yep, jdm yo
Yep, Nissan needs to stay away, and if they have to merge with anyone merge with bmw or something. Then it really will become the ultimate driving machine haha.
not at all
then bmw would be shitty.
and i own a nissan and bmw
so trust me.
bmw needs to stay away from any other companies
maybe we could get 350z's with ls1's in them....
hahaha
give it a few more years, with unions bleeding this country dry, we'll wakeup to the big 3 being no longer owned by americans.
then, maybe the fucking unions will shutup.
They just need to make it legal for GM to shake the Unions. If that happened, GM would turn around. They can't do shit with Unions bleeding them to death.
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Bad news for you infiniti(sp) drivers
See i dont understand dumbass comments like this. GM has their core line-up that is similiar, but theyve changed very little toward GM style on their other cars like Saab or Subaru. What makes everyone think GM will gayify nissan/infinity? Why would they change a remotely successful company to a failing model theyve already got?
b/c people think stupidly
very recently. it was just a small piece of subaru and saab. thats why saab was able to produce the 92x which was a wrx wagon ,turbo flat-4 and all.
house of turbo subarus...its all we'll drive
"Renault tapped him"
its nothing GM just needs financial backing to prevent them from filing bankrupt! it just like Ford did with Jag,Volvo,Land Rover, and Mazda. Gm ha already sold Gmac so they have been cutting back for awhile
Elitedriven.com
Lexus RX330
Lexus LS400
Widebody 350z
That is compared to last year, in which they were offering employee pricing to the public. Year to date is only down 12.2%
Year to date total vehicle sales for others
Toyota up 9.8%
Honda up 3.8%
Chrysler down 4.9%
Ford down 3.8%
Nissan down 19%
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/14959067.htm
if gm had any smarts they'd be all over this opportunity like a drowning man on a piece of drift wood. i think it's pretty interesting, albeit no big surprise, that the avg japanese car/truck (or maybe just one or the other) have a lot turnover ratio twice that of an american made car.
Sooo true
i keep hearing a lot about unions bleeding them dry but in reality it's the pricing and quality of the vehicles that is hurting GM. Think about it, would you pay 40,000 for a gm truck when you can get a nissan for 30,000 with more features and more hp/tq and better gas mileage, towing capacity, interior room etc... i sure as hell wouldn't!! gm has been stuck on installing cheap interiors for years, even in their high end vehicles compared to foreign car makers. i had a tiburon a while back and the interior in it was way nicer than 95% of gm vehicles and better quality but a lot cheaper.
also, i am in the union and unless you have been in one you can't bash them. do you get breaks at work and overtime? guess what, if it wasn't for the unions you would be working 60+ hours a week straight time and may or may not get a break at all!!! Also the unions faught to have payed holidays, i gues no one enjoys those either. and lastly it's usually the greedy Ceo's and upper managment that break a company. i mean really think about it, do they deserve to make millions a year when in all actuality they don't do shit but play golf and get freebies. and i'm not talking out of my ass on this i have seen it first hand growing up in that enviroment. so, before you go bashing unions, you really should do more research on what they have done for all workers today, not just union workers. best way to describe it is, have you ever been fired at a job for no reason or laid off without proof of a need to cut back? that can't happen to me, unless i do it to myself because the union backs me 100% as long as i keep my nose clean.
bottom line is the companies want the unions out because they have to stick to safe and fair work practices and decent wages and health care for their employees. if they have the unions gone they can pay people $8 an hour and employees pay all of their health care.
sorry for the long rant but just wanted to clarify what unions actually do instead of the bad press the companies want you to read. maybe this will clear things up a bit. just remember unions fight for the working class and keep things fair!!
Dustin
I drive a heep
Don't know about it being pricing and quality. GM quality IMO has been the best to me than any other vehicle I have owned. I had a work truck that I put over 300k miles on and only had to rebuild the trans once, nothing else other than expected maintenence. Ran good when I sold it. As far as trucks, GM has been proven to be the longest lasting.
I terms of pricing, I can only speak from personal experience, but I looked for my newest truck for 6 months before I bought one. I looked at nissan, toyota, gm, and ford mainly. I ended up going with a GMC 1500HD Crew. It had more room, can pull (slightly) more, and was cheaper than the nissan and toyota. And from friends accounts, I average just as good or better mileage.
I really wanted a Titan crew cab, but I found them (and the toyotas) to be overly priced when I was comparing.
Not to bad mouth the union or anything, but I deal with it where I work (BASF). In my experience with it they are constantly asking for to much. Defending the working man is a great thing, but here its not about that anymore. Its all about politics, power, and personal gain now. Even some of my friends in the union here will admit to that.
i understand your point but i guess i went a little overboard with the rant. basically what i was trying to say was that most of the time it's the big wigs that screw things up, not the unions but they always blame the unions for money problems. i know when our new contracts come up in 2008, if they cut our benefits anymore i will be looking for another job. they want to cut our benefits every chance they get but then turn around and give our CEO 2.4 million a year raise. thats makes no sense!! do you think it does?
Dustin
I drive a heep
id cut all the unions shit too.
unions=serve no purpose in todays world.
in todays workplace, there is no need for unions. back in the 20-30's when manual laborers were taken advantage of...sure unions were a must.
nowadays, where employers take good care of their people, unions are a hassle and a way for the employees to take advantage of their employers.
unions don't make anything better. they create friction in the workplace.
ask anyone thats in a union like kroger's, ask them how much they've had deducted from the paycheck and for how long. ask them when was the last time they needed the union to fight for them? in todays workplace, most employers ( we like to think) value their employees to much because of competition in the market to intentionally take advantage of the employees.
GM for the most part has made undesirable product with marginal reliability and have struggled to offer products that are close to as good as many competitors. thats a recipe for very little profits.
house of turbo subarus...its all we'll drive
I agree mostly, its the men with power that usually screw it up.
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