What Do You Want To See At Car Events???

I didn't read past the first page, but I also say money. Not to show, but just to go. It's pretty much the same cars every show you go to. So why should a spectator pay $25+ a show to see cars we sometimes see driving down the road. If nothing else go to one show at the end of the season to see how the cars have changed that year. I mean if you go to a $25 show, bring a gf, that's $50. More than likely you can see all of the cars in an hour or 2 (if that long) then there isnt anything to do but leave. Waste of $50. I used to love shows, but I havnt been to one in a very long time.

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Originally Posted by Brett

Sadly that is a issue that will never go away, It still to this day amzes me how alot of the people who choose to do the "GO" route want the respect from people but they have and never will give respect to the "Show" people. You dont see the show side bashing what they do, But they are ALWAYS the ones jumping on the bandwagon to bash show cars, that line will always be there, sad to say.

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I both agree and disagree. I rarely go to shows or meets for one main reason; there is no "show" about my car other than being clean. And I can't tell you how much crap I catch from people who are all "show". For example, just 2 days ago I was minding my own business driving up to Publix to get something for dinner, I stopped at a red light in front of 3-Dollar Cafe when 2 twenty-something year old kids in a bling'n Lexus pull up next me and start running their mouths. Crap like, look his car is so fast he has to have race seats...blah blah blah. It's stuff like that from the "show" people that irritate me to no end. Everyone has a style, and a reason to be proud of the car they're driving or showing, mine happens to be all about "go". People, younger ones more specifically, just don't have respect for what other people are doing to their cars. It has ruined it for me, I used to love going to shows, but now I'd rather be at the race track hanging out with people who are not only willing to show you around their car, but also show you how they got there, what they did, and even show you respect for your car and the fact that you're there. I don't think having events, activities, or boobies will help--ok, boobies probably would help, but anyway. Everyone just needs to take a damn chill pill and calm the hell down, their car is not the best looking, not the fastest, or the cleanest, or the most creative, there is always someone who has done something different or something better and people need to get off of their high horse and at least show some respect for people who are in the scene, even if it's a different part of the scene. And that holds true for everyone, including me, regardless of what they're contributing to the scene.

I hate to sound like a broken record.. but money is a big factor. As it has been said alot of us are college students, I work full-time and im in school.. I wont be showing a car for a while, but I wanna attend and watch, however I dont want to go watch an event for 45-50 bucks if its the same cars i can see driving down the street or at one of the IA meets.

I am VERY new to the scene here in Atl, and I cant even tell you how good it felt to be so welcomed by the people on IA, even at the meets people were/are very cool about welcoming you, but I dont think anyone even mentioned a few of the things going on in the next couple of weekend about shows, ect.. I had to hear it from one of the clubs. If your showing your car.. tell people at the shows, wouldnt you want the people you know to come out and support you showing your car?

There are how many people here on IA and how many people show up at meets..20-30? I KNOW there are more people on here than that. I have a 90% stock civic and I am still at almost every thursday and Saturday meet, it helps me get ideas and get to know other people in the scene. Come out.. I realize for some people its a drive, but for the people who live around the area, I mean come on...

Just my 2 cents..

I'm sorry, but I'm with some of the OG's on this.

Everyone "wants" a $5 show, but with $1000 prizes. It just doesn't work that way. Promoting a show, any show, is hard work. I don't care what some people say. It takes planning, logistics, money, time, coordinating, etc. just to get it from story board to reality. If people want cool shows to come here, then they MUST participate when they are here. You don't have to necessarily show all the time, just attend. Show interest. Get together with your crew and make it out to a show once in a while. There are plenty of "non-show" cars that come as a group in order to compete in team entries and the like. That technically is competing. Atleast you're showing your support for the sport you like. You will always have someone pissed because they didn't win. Personally, that motivates certain people like myself.

I understand the whole "I don't have a lot of money" deal. I get it. But if you just sit there and don't support the sport, it WILL go elsewhere. Economics dictate that.

I mean for God's sake, SELOC holds 1-2 meets A MONTH too. Sometimes we have 10 people show, sometimes 50. Mingle with the crowd. Talk to people. Make new connections. Go to a meet every once in a while just to meet the players. That's supporting the sport and that doesn't cost ANYTHING at all. We are a Lexus club, but we invite everyone no matter what you drive all the time. We love to hang out with other clubs and kinds of cars. It's not about, "We're better than you are", it's about "We wanna know WHO you are and WHAT you do to YOUR cars". Anyone that has gone to one of our meets can vouch for that.

If people won't even go to FREE meets, how do you expect promoters to spend big bucks to do a show????? That's why it's not always about money.

WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THE PRICES FOR OUR EVENT, BUT OUR SPECTATOR FEE IS ONLY 10$, AND ITS 5$ IF YOUR PREREGISTER OR BRING A FLYER

^ thats damn cheap... we are trying to get prices as low as possible and i know many other promoters are too, but its expensive to throw shows at big tracks/venues.

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Originally Posted by admin

WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THE PRICES FOR OUR EVENT, BUT OUR SPECTATOR FEE IS ONLY 10$, AND ITS 5$ IF YOUR PREREGISTER OR BRING A FLYER

^ thats damn cheap... we are trying to get prices as low as possible and i know many other promoters are too, but its expensive to throw shows at big tracks/venues.

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That is very reasonable pricing IMO. If people don't go to that, it's their own fault.

biggest thin is u have to keep everyone fuking entertain...i mean theres only so many times i person can walk around and damn place b4 they die of being bored...we need to start targeting the kids that dun have cars yet and the ones that just go car...i rmember when i was like 15 and i went to car shows and shit i kept sayint o myself imma be in a team like x-rated,WTN,international allstars,eci, and whoever else all the time...a lot of ppl have started to go to shows and leave their cars at home which i dun understand...u put all that money into and u just wanna be a parking lot stunna...go ahead and put it in the fuking show and have a place to sit when ur bored or sumthing...BIGGIEST THING I WANNA SEE IS MORE IS PRESIDENTS OF TEAM PUTTING THEIR FOOT DOWN LIKE THEY USE TO AND GET THERE TEAM MATES TO GO AND SHOW...wasn;t there a time when teams use to make ppl have to show at certain amounts of shows b4 they could join a team...be honest shows are wut invented the import scene and we need to bring it back...we need to start making ppl that see our cars wanna get into the import scene jus like how we were amazed wit it when we saw rj de vera cars in import tuner...i use to love rushing to the mail box to see if super street or import tuner was in my mailbox and now i keep gettin it in teh mail and dun have time to flip through it...

i haven;t seen a difference in price of admission

i don't have a lot of money either, i have a mortgage, car payment, school, etc. but it doesn't matter. if it is something you are into, then the price really doesn't matter, but even if you aren't into it, you will usually get your money's worth. I'm not into cars that much, but my family, friends, and my boyfriend are, so I go to the shows with them and I pay my money. Yea, I won't like most of the cars there but it is still fun to go. You get to see all the different things people do to their cars and you get ideas and see the different tastes people have. I may not like the cars - but I have an appreciation for the money, time, and effort put into them. And that is worth the money to me. Plus, its also worth it just to go out and support your friends and spend time with everyone IMO.

http://www.importatlanta.com/tfs/events.htm

^ our show site has been updated... check out the events page for prices/events and let us know what you think

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Originally Posted by admin

http://www.importatlanta.com/tfs/events.htm

^ our show site has been updated... check out the events page for prices/events and let us know what you think

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:goodjob: ...can't wait for it to start :)

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Originally Posted by numba1_si

..be honest shows are wut invented the import scene and we need to bring it back......

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Shows didn't invent the import scene, the scene has always been around and it is part of a trend. It is an ever evolving trend that started since cars were invented it just goes through different avenues. I remember back in the early 90's it was all about the mini trucks and hydros. Everywhere you looked, that is all it was about, now it is all about drifting and performance. I remember going to NOPI when it was like $20 to show and now look at it. Back in the early to late 90's there were a lot of true custom cars and not cookie cutter cars so you could spend a whole day at a show looking at true custom cars. Honestly it is like it was said eariler about DUB, it gets old after a while walking around seeing pretty much all the same cars just different colors.

With the above being said I will be at HIN tho.

Ken (justunez) has it right, good positive suggestions bro…

Throwing a bone at the elites and clubs will get them to participate and bring numbers along with clean rides, once you develop a show that has a good turnout the following year it will return (if the judging, classes, time of day and the price is right). Classes definitely need to be thought out so that people who have minor builds/daily drivers have a chance to win and want to return, also there are a lot of domestics that play in the import arena, most are newer rides that don’t stand a chance at a Year One or church show with 22 inch wheels (rice to the old school), how about classing them like the imports?

Paul, as far as Drift this year I can tell you why they didn’t have the turnout they had last year (which was a good turnout). They didn’t contact the clubs and participants they have been contacting for the last two years (for both Mazda Extreme and Drift), they didn’t have judging last year (NCCA) and the pricing was ridicules. Drift wanted 50 to show for one day that’s ludicrous at a hot track with little to no judging and classes! The combo of the two killed the show this year. At a two day show I can see the price, but one day, nope wasn’t going to happen… I’ll probably get flamed for this but last year we brought 22 to the show and they decided because I told them that it would be 25 to alter the deal they had made with me, and a NCCA rep (not Fred or anyone from Slipstream) let me know about the change along with being ugly about it, also we were slated to receive promotional items (its nice to be in a club) that NCCA was to deliver and didn’t. Hell I can bring 10 to a show and get a break from most promoters this didn’t sit well. This year they also said only preregistered participants will be allowed to show, there are a lot of younger people (that Drift caters to) who do not have credit cards and are cash and carry, also some don’t know if they are going to have the weekend off until they are on top of it, this was a stupid mistake. HIN is making similar mistakes that will cost them numbers.

Suggestions to promoters and venders:

Learn who the players are, its not hard to talk to the people in charge of boards in a different state to learn who to contact. A simple e-mail can go a long way.
Pricing has to be thought out, I know the idea is to make money but you don’t have to kill us for it.
Classes have to be thought out, the scene has changed.
Judging is important! I don’t care if it’s a stock ride, the judges need to look and talk to the guy who spent hard earned money to show and build. And stress to the judges that communication can kill or make a future show, be nice.
Time of day (preferably night during hot months).
Look for conflicting events.
Add additions to appeal to families (good job last year FI).
Trophies, not some 10-inch Model A right hand drive trophy or friggen plaque ya cheap bastards.

IA is doing right this year and we will support, if your going to throw a show at a track make it a night show, God knows you’ll roast at Commerce during the day (as we have the last couple of years). There are two shows I’m looking forward to this year and both of them are at night, well done IA and wTn.

And Brett, you know as well as I the reason we both did 30+ shows two years ago was SLAP buddy, they scheduled one just about every weekend and for those of us who love to show we enjoyed it, the price was right and everyone in the club had a chance to place, I do miss them and Ray! Unfortunately some idiot decided (when it was getting good) to change things, a loss for the show community and Georgia.

If a show was done correctly in the past and/or you have contacted us we will make a show mandatory (especially if you’re a local club), if not you didn’t do something right…

Tom
Prez – Team FX (KAI)

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IA is doing right this year and we will support, if your going to throw a show at a track make it a night show, God knows you’ll roast at Commerce during the day (as we have the last couple of years). There are two shows I’m looking forward to this year and both of them are at night, well done IA and wTn.

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thanx Tom, like i've always said you let me know when Team FX is ready to do a show and i will help you guys 110%... its guys like you that keep this scene going strong.

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Originally Posted by GA_Teg

Shows didn't invent the import scene, the scene has always been around and it is part of a trend. It is an ever evolving trend that started since cars were invented it just goes through different avenues. I remember back in the early 90's it was all about the mini trucks and hydros. Everywhere you looked, that is all it was about, now it is all about drifting and performance. I remember going to NOPI when it was like $20 to show and now look at it. Back in the early to late 90's there were a lot of true custom cars and not cookie cutter cars so you could spend a whole day at a show looking at true custom cars. Honestly it is like it was said eariler about DUB, it gets old after a while walking around seeing pretty much all the same cars just different colors.

With the above being said I will be at HIN tho.

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welol wut i meant was if it wasn;t for guy puting shit in their cars and driving around no one would know about the import scene

I have read some of the comments about the money, and variety, I think we need more variety at the local events, I don't believe money is the biggest issue due to the HUGE turnout the the NOPI Nat's gets every year!! HIN- same car different city! ROAD ATLANTA- Local Car clubs you see all year,k I'm rambling my point is we need variety!!!! :blah: :blah:

Amen Tom! :goodjob:

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Originally Posted by QuickBrick

Ken’s (justunez)And Brett, you know as well as I the reason we both did 30+ shows two years ago was SLAP buddy, they scheduled one just about every weekend and for those of us who love to show we enjoyed it, the price was right and everyone in the club had a chance to place, I do miss them and Ray! Unfortunately some idiot decided (when it was getting good) to change things, a loss for the show community and Georgia.

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Yeah SLAP got a bad rep the last year we did it, started getting few to many people to show, and we just ended up "buying" our trophey. Me personally if I get one, I want to to be earned, not givin to me by default. But damn was it fun the 2003-2004 seasons to have shows every weekend to pick from, hang out with everyone on a weekly basis at shows and just do what we enjoy, and thats prep the cars for a show, and show them.

We used to have some of the best judges to do the shows. People like Pablo, Kevin, Alex, The Allstar Guys, etc did some of the best at shows when it came to being a judge. They didnt pick favorites, they picked cars they felt deserved it. To me I think judges are the downfall of shows now these days. Example, HIN last year... NCCA gave us all rule books when we registered, I was in MILD ( I know I wasnt going to place at HIN ) but they allowed people to pick thier class, and then the judges who were working the show even admitted they were new and not true NCCA judges ( The good judges were at a bigger venue that weekend ) and then they had cars in MILD that were CLEARLY not in a mild class, and they cleaned up in a class that street driven, mild custom cars should have placed in, instead it was fully custom painted, molded, etc cars in MILD ( Clear rules said that was not what mild was ) So when we pay $50 at a show, Its not about the money I drop, I will pay $100 to show my car if its a great event, and to me HIN was a show that I felt was worth the cash, to be among the elite cars, and exposure, but I left there with a VERY sour taste in my mouth with them allowing cars to pick thier class, bad judges, and rude ass show workers. Im sorry, but if we are paying that kind of high dollar for a show, They BETTER have proper cars in the proper class, Good judges, and people working it who care, I am seeing how HIN goes this year and that will decide if I ever go back.

But what it comes down to ( I Stil dont say its money ) is if we are paying the dollars to show, Have the proper cars in proper class's, good judges who do thier job and take the time to do it right.

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Originally Posted by chmura

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The show we (FI) threw last year at Lanier had a lot of these problems solved.....

We had contests, team games, stereo comp, show, prizes, food, "boobies"..... and it ended up being one of the biggest club shows of the year.... and I still hear to this day from peeps it was a good show...

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So true!!! This was my second show (first one was in Anderson SC and was a bomb). The show last year that FI put on was awesome -- there were things to do during the show, the entry fee was reasonable, the people I met also showing were great and didn't mind talking to a newbie like myself and giving me info and tips. I truly felt welcomed and a part of the scene. I would attend a show like this every month!!:bigok:

BTW prices have been around the same average since ive been in GA.. I started doing car shows in GA in 1998.. same price range 20 to 30 bucks for a regular show.. Nopi was like 60 or so, can't remember... Also I remember some nopi regionals were free at one point.

I am agreeing in a lot of ways there is a lot of things that everyone can agree or dissagree on. Most of us complain about the prices because we are cheap asses. If we wanted to show and participate enough we could find a way in most cases. Not all mind you. Im not sure if any of you remeber the nopi regionals they used to have at the nopi store in snellville(now shutdown) but 2 years ago i entered it and it was 10 bucks to enter. They were smal lshows mind you but it was always a fun thing and there were nothign but hot rides there the best thing was the atmosphere of the hwole thing. If things like this happened more people woudl say hey its a cheap show and maybee i have a shot at a trophie and even meetin some cool people. I dunno.
Next thing is like admin said they have meets for IA members 2 nights a week. I think if many of us stared to show at this we could get to know each other very well and even build a scene that is more involved. We could all get together as a Import/domestic car community and work together to bring what was once here back. I think like most have said its just gonna take some work on all of our parts. It seems like eveyrone has just kinda slacked a little on there part and i will admit that i am as guilty as most and i want to bring what once was back.

the biggest problem i see at any show, is biased judging. Thats my problem with car shows. (since thats really all i have done in teh past) A few of them have been decent, but i know some shows they dont judge all cars equally, as in one car, they check the undercarriage, the other they dont. Stuff liek that. Its irregularities in judging that piss me off. Thats really my only gripe. I cant make to many shows becuase i work so much, and weekend duty is random. never know when planes are gonna break