Quote Originally Posted by Hektik
Theres no reason for me to make a wager Im completely confident on my stance but at the same time I see no reason to make this a bet plus im not a gambling man naver have been never will be. only reason im making this argument is because u asked for a discussion. and that is all it is. all im saying wether u accept it or not is that there needs to be lift u already stated that u aswell as all of IA.com know what lift is well how will there be lift if there is no actuall forward movement. please explain to make as to how there is a forward movement on a treadmill. when the treadmill is moving at 100knots to match the speed of the aircraft at 100 knots. Is the plane actually moving forward no. ok lets put it this way lets reuse the previous example ur at the airport on oje of those long escalator belts that are flat ok and u are walking in the opposite direction that the belt is moving but at the same speed you WILL stand in one single location now if u were to pick up speed and the belt stayed at the same speed then u would move but as long as u and the belt are at the same speed u will stay put.
Shit, man, you are dense. Do you understand that there is NO power going to the wheels of a plane. NONE. The wheels DO NOT push the plane forward. The wheels spin freely. Knowing that, what is to stop the plane from moving forward? Remember, the wheels spin freely.

As for not betting, why not? It isn't gambling if you are 100% confident in your answer now is it? Nope. Bet me. Be a man and put your money where your mouth is...