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Thread: What swap sould I do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Paper Diary
    You could just take a couple years off and work full time to save up...or just start going to a local school and get hope...and you wont have to pay for tuition or anything. Def. dont give up on your dream, just try to find ways to make it there.

    I just noticed how much I bitched at the others for going of topic in my thread but now i am the one most off topic. LOL that funny. Here i will bitch my self out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowrolla97
    I just noticed how much I bitched at the others for going of topic in my thread but now i am the one most off topic. LOL that funny. Here i will bitch my self out.
    lol but atleast the offtopic is educational

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowrolla97
    Very tru. I am going to start looking into more locally collages soon but I dont want to give my dream up so soon.

    You fucking idiot. You thread jacker. How could you do this to this nice young man? You are piece of shit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Paper Diary
    lol but atleast the offtopic is educational

    yeah but I do have to say thank you for the information about the other schools.

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    lol someones alittle crazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowrolla97
    yeah but I do have to say thank you for the information about the other schools.
    no problem man. If it wasnt for Chuck on here, i wouldnt be going to the school that im at now. If you want to get into the racing aspect, check out www.laniertech.edu they are sponsored by panoz. You can talk to s14slider on here, he is enrolled in that class. But i would suggest checking out gwinette tech. too

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    Cool cool i will look into it. Thanks for the info agian. I need to make sure I go to the right school cuse it will pretty much set the rest of my life up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowrolla97
    Cool cool i will look into it. Thanks for the info agian. I need to make sure I go to the right school cuse it will pretty much set the rest of my life up.
    No problem. Your right about picking the right school. You may want to check into VC tech and Wyo Tech. Both seem to be pretty good school. I didnt check the prices on those but i am sure they are pretty expensive.

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    Yeah i looked into Wyo Tech and they are around the same as Uti but they have on campus housing. UTI lacks that so on top of the 20k you need an apartment

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    dude fuck that...
    if you have money to spend... think about it... you're not going to have anything mindnumbingly fast.
    Just build something fun to drive, fuckin 4AGE 20v all the mother fucking way... u can redline it higher than a honda and its built to last. If you're gonna spend 5k on the motor of something, why a corolla? (just my 2 cents)
    If i wanted to spend 5k on a motor, i'd sell the corolla, pick up a cheap project, then go for speed. , or just save up some more and keep this as a DAILY and have another not so daily (what i did)
    Project cars never make good dailys (i learned this the hard way)


    btw we frown upon posts like this in the whoreslounge, such blasphemy

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    please explain how you could even manage to spend 5000 on a 3sgte swap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SNapper
    please explain how you could even manage to spend 5000 on a 3sgte swap.
    you got punked out by "Thomas"

    BLAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaИdomGuy
    you got punked out by "Thomas"

    BLAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
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    Quote Originally Posted by SNapper
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    use it
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    What the hell, no D-16?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowrolla97
    Also I am not sure if it will be worth it. A 3s only make what 240-260hp at the crank?
    depends on which generation you pick as well as the car
    celica
    gen 1:185@6000rpm
    gen 2:225@6400rpm
    gen 3:225-230@6500 also a limited edition RC 235(WRC)
    MR2:
    any gen:200

    If i were you i would look into the 3SGE (N/A version) the later versions 3-4 made amazing power and can be taken into the 200+whp range with bolt ons and some tuning!!!the gen 4 BEAMS(Breakthrough Engine with Advanced Mechanism System) version made 200@7100rpm(8300 rpm redline) to the crank stock NA!!!!!they rev very high and actually make some tq lol. this would be alot cheaper and give you more than enough power to rip it up on the street/track.they make amazing track motors, its also what im planning to do to my MKI MR2 ! IMHO the GTE would be too much for a FWD car...wheel spin would own you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sport20
    depends on which generation you pick as well as the car
    celica
    gen 1:185@6000rpm
    gen 2:225@6400rpm
    gen 3:225-230@6500 also a limited edition RC 235(WRC)
    MR2:
    any gen:200

    If i were you i would look into the 3SGE (N/A version) the later versions 3-4 made amazing power and can be taken into the 200+whp range with bolt ons and some tuning!!!the gen 4 BEAMS(Breakthrough Engine with Advanced Mechanism System) version made 200@7100rpm(8300 rpm redline) to the crank stock NA!!!!!they rev very high and actually make some tq lol. this would be alot cheaper and give you more than enough power to rip it up on the street/track.they make amazing track motors, its also what im planning to do to my MKI MR2 ! IMHO the GTE would be too much for a FWD car...wheel spin would own you!
    usdm gen 2's make 200 hp jdm ones make 225.
    gen 3's make 240 hp
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    ST 165 celica
    1986.10 : Toyota announced the release of the ST165 Celica GT-four full time all-wheel-drive hatchback coupe. The ST165 Celica GT-four is powered by the 2.0liter L-4 DOHC turbocharged 3S-GTE engine with water-cooled intercooler. The 3S-GTE engine makes 185 horsepower at 6000rpm and 24.5kg-m of torque.
    Main equipment : A leather wrapped steering wheel, stabilizer, Power windows, Power door lock, Foglights, Alloy wheels
    ST 185
    1989.9 : The ST185 Celica GT-four was introduced. The ST185 Celica GT-four presents a more aggressive bold and dramatic exterior design. The improved 3S-GTE engine, by employing the twin entry ceramic turbine and the air-to-air intercooler, makes 225 horsepower and 31.0kg-m of torque. Also, the ST185 Celica GT-four is equipped with the 4WS, active control suspension, and Torsen limited slip differential (LSD) .
    ST205
    1994.2 : The ST205 Celica GT-four was introduced. The 3S-GTE engine performance has been further improved by having improved the turbine and having improved the aspiration efficiency. The ST205 Celica GT-four features a number of holes on its aluminum hood. And it adopts super strut suspension (front), 16 inches brake discs and aluminum 4-pod calipers (front), 2-pod calipers (rear), a rear Torsen LSD.

    http://www.j-garage.com/toyota/celica/spec.htm
    http://www.j-garage.com/toyota/celica/gt4.htm

    i said that gen 2's make 225, and the gen 3 is rated anywhere from 230-255 as seen in the links above
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sport20
    ST 165 celica
    1986.10 : Toyota announced the release of the ST165 Celica GT-four full time all-wheel-drive hatchback coupe. The ST165 Celica GT-four is powered by the 2.0liter L-4 DOHC turbocharged 3S-GTE engine with water-cooled intercooler. The 3S-GTE engine makes 185 horsepower at 6000rpm and 24.5kg-m of torque.
    Main equipment : A leather wrapped steering wheel, stabilizer, Power windows, Power door lock, Foglights, Alloy wheels
    ST 185
    1989.9 : The ST185 Celica GT-four was introduced. The ST185 Celica GT-four presents a more aggressive bold and dramatic exterior design. The improved 3S-GTE engine, by employing the twin entry ceramic turbine and the air-to-air intercooler, makes 225 horsepower and 31.0kg-m of torque. Also, the ST185 Celica GT-four is equipped with the 4WS, active control suspension, and Torsen limited slip differential (LSD) .
    ST205
    1994.2 : The ST205 Celica GT-four was introduced. The 3S-GTE engine performance has been further improved by having improved the turbine and having improved the aspiration efficiency. The ST205 Celica GT-four features a number of holes on its aluminum hood. And it adopts super strut suspension (front), 16 inches brake discs and aluminum 4-pod calipers (front), 2-pod calipers (rear), a rear Torsen LSD.

    http://www.j-garage.com/toyota/celica/spec.htm
    http://www.j-garage.com/toyota/celica/gt4.htm

    i said that gen 2's make 225, and the gen 3 is rated anywhere from 230-255 as seen in the links above
    that's great. i own one.
    jdm: http://www.alltrac.net/specs/comparison.htm
    usdm 185: http://www.toyotacelicas.com/informa...ears/1990.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by slowrolla97
    Ok you are cool and all but a 3s in my car would run any honda that is swapped. Even a K motor in a crx.
    Not stock for stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1439/2000
    Not stock for stock.
    are you kidding?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sport20
    ST 165 celica
    1986.10 : Toyota announced the release of the ST165 Celica GT-four full time all-wheel-drive hatchback coupe. The ST165 Celica GT-four is powered by the 2.0liter L-4 DOHC turbocharged 3S-GTE engine with water-cooled intercooler. The 3S-GTE engine makes 185 horsepower at 6000rpm and 24.5kg-m of torque.
    Main equipment : A leather wrapped steering wheel, stabilizer, Power windows, Power door lock, Foglights, Alloy wheels
    ST 185
    1989.9 : The ST185 Celica GT-four was introduced. The ST185 Celica GT-four presents a more aggressive bold and dramatic exterior design. The improved 3S-GTE engine, by employing the twin entry ceramic turbine and the air-to-air intercooler, makes 225 horsepower and 31.0kg-m of torque. Also, the ST185 Celica GT-four is equipped with the 4WS, active control suspension, and Torsen limited slip differential (LSD) .
    ST205
    1994.2 : The ST205 Celica GT-four was introduced. The 3S-GTE engine performance has been further improved by having improved the turbine and having improved the aspiration efficiency. The ST205 Celica GT-four features a number of holes on its aluminum hood. And it adopts super strut suspension (front), 16 inches brake discs and aluminum 4-pod calipers (front), 2-pod calipers (rear), a rear Torsen LSD.

    http://www.j-garage.com/toyota/celica/spec.htm
    http://www.j-garage.com/toyota/celica/gt4.htm

    i said that gen 2's make 225, and the gen 3 is rated anywhere from 230-255 as seen in the links above
    Dude u know those are AWD!... what does the differentials have anything to do with this kid's swap

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    Quote Originally Posted by SNapper
    thats great...i still dont know what the fuck your point is...your only restating what im saying lol. i never said your poor motor made less power than you claimed. that 185 is also the RC edition not another Generation. there were only 3 gens of the GTE. all the power levels i posted where correct except for the gen 3 originally which i corrected in my next post. :jerkit:
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaИdomGuy
    Dude u know those are AWD!... what does the differentials have anything to do with this kid's swap
    those where the revisions to the cars in those different models years. i just posted straight from other sites. lol i never once said hey dude it comes LSD ahaha
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    What about the 1zz?

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    ^worthless POS. if anything the 2zz would be a much better idea
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    What does the 2zz come out of?

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    ^celica GTS/matrix XRS(??)/elise
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    3SGE>2zz IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by slowrolla97
    Hey look I am getting somewhere. Thank you for your response to the poll.
    it's the gd whorelounge fool! There's an entire universe where people act semi-normal in the CAR FORUMS! Use them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    it's the gd whorelounge fool! There's an entire universe where people act semi-normal in the CAR FORUMS! Use them.

    Hey you fool it was a joke. As you can tell i went off topic too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SNapper
    are you kidding?

    No. A stock k series in a crx with slicks and a stock 3s in a corolla with slicks.

    Civic wins.

    Put on a boost controller and fuel pump on the corolla and its close.

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    i was just saying not all 2nd gens are 225 hp and ur never gunna find a 3rd gen with more then 240 unless ur rich.
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    4G63 and G54B > toyota (xcept maybe 2Jzgte, but nothing else lolol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaИdomGuy
    4G63 and G54B > toyota (xcept maybe 2Jzgte, but nothing else lolol)
    depends on the motor really.

    toyota N/A > anything mitsu N/A
    4g63>3SGTE for a 2.0 turbo
    2JZ/1JZ > anything Mitsu for a 6 cylinder
    overall quality of cars toyota>mitsubishi

    4g54b is a pile of crap and you know it lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sport20
    depends on the motor really.

    toyota N/A > anything mitsu N/A
    4g63>3SGTE for a 2.0 turbo
    2JZ/1JZ > anything Mitsu for a 6 cylinder
    overall quality of cars toyota>mitsubishi

    4g54b is a pile of crap and you know it lol

    I disagree. If you are thinking about dsm's that shit is made in Illinois.

    My car is made in Japan and has way better craftmanship than any DSM. Most Mitsus here people think of as Japanese were pressed together in the Midwest.

    Think about that.

    And '99 3000gt VR-4 is one of the best put together,performing, and looking import supercar ever.

    So is the 91-92 Galant VR-4. <--Shameless self promotion.

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    no offense, but I would save the money from the swap, sell your car, and buy something with more potential stock. maybe an mr2 turbo, if you like that engine. the overall resale value will be better that way, and youll have an mr2...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightspeed
    no offense, but I would save the money from the swap, sell your car, and buy something with more potential stock. maybe an mr2 turbo, if you like that engine. the overall resale value will be better that way, and youll have an mr2...

    True but think about a killer corolla. If you got bet by a 7th gen corolla what would you think? Please not smart ass coments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowrolla97
    True but think about a killer corolla. If you got bet by a 7th gen corolla what would you think? Please not smart ass coments.
    Smartass comments? On IA? Never
    Actually, I can aprpeciate the fun of having something that is a lot faster than expected, hence why I have a fast s10 LOL
    Keep in mind that if you have FWD, you are always going to deal with the limitations of that if you want to make something quick.
    It all depends on how much disposable income you have. I dont know what your finances are, but I know from personal experience that it hurts like hell when you spend a shitload of money building a swap car, then you try to sell it, and its worth less than a stock version of the car you started with.
    There are a lot of cars that have a lot more potential stock, that you could have fun with and make a serious sleeper, but still keep retail.
    Build a mazda 323gtx...they are pretty cheap, AWD, turbo'd, and look like an econobox. Hardly anyone knows what they are, either.

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