I just think it is funny that everyone is jumping on the bandwagon calling them fag cars. "Only fags drive mini coopers", I guess if you have that mentality then it is the same as saying "Only ricers drive honda/acuras" and it can go on. The car is not bad, the S model would be the only one to get grant it as the base would not have the performance that would be desired. It has a good german engineered suspension, small and agile, and with the S model decent power.