wtf are you babbling about? "illegals that own houses"... why the property taxes? do you own a home? do you know how much property taxes are? i pay more out of my paycheck in a month than i do on the taxes on my house in like 4 months...Originally Posted by GsrCrx
you have no idea what your talking about.
Whatever dude, you don't know me from a hole in the wall. Think what you will.
Point is though, they are illegal. That is the key word. I didn't say I had a problem with people coming here. But do it the right way or don't do it at all. I break the law everyday in my car on the road, I also pay the consequeces when I get caught. They will be doing the same.
hold on again... OWN HOUSES!!!
let me guess they PAID IN CASH, b/c they have credit right?b/c illegals have SSN..
HOW DO THEY RUN THEIR CREDIT FOR A LOAN IF THEY DON'T HAVE SSN?
actually i know alot of illegal people that own houses, they buy them with a TAX ID NUMBER, so before u talk shit, get ur facts straight
I LIVE MY LIFE A LICENSE SUSPENSION AT A TIME AND FOR THOSE SIX MONTHS OR MORE, I STILL DRIVE.
hold on again... OWN HOUSES!!!
let me guess they PAID IN CASH, b/c they have credit right?
HOW DO THEY RUN THEIR CREDIT FOR A LOAN IF THEY DON'T HAVE SSN?
You know How many people are dead and for some reason are able to buy houses and build credit.. remember that y0 .
oh let me guess the same TIN that they are working as contract labor under
ya maybe if when the law passes they will start to weed through that bullshit and send them home. and yes you are still wrong b/c the little amount of taxes that contributed by property taxes from illegals isn't shit compared to what isn't being paid by wages
i have never taken a $ from the gov't and as i stated i don't care what color you are, if you are leeching off the system you don't deserve to be here.
you should know this well considering you are going into the healthcare field. this exact situation is one of the reason's healthcare cost are through the roof. people expect everything for FREE.
beyond that sales taxes do not account for the amount of tax dollars that would be in our economy if they were being charged taxes on their wages. you take 15 million and multiply it by what ever percentage you want that is a lot of tax dollars missing from our economy. shit that could of possibly paid for 1 years worth of war in iraq
Based on your first statement let's round up all the deadbeats (citizens) that don't pay taxes and ship them back to where they came from. Well wait....they're already here. Illegals receiving health benefits is not the main reason healthcare costs are skyhigh. It's not even in the top 5.
Think about the BILLIONS Americans bilk out of their own system, which includes tax fraud, false worker's comp claims, false malpractice claims, and etc. Who's the real felon? Furthermore, I would never turn down a person who needed healthcare services. I don't care whether you're illegal or not. I have yet to have a non-White customer return partially chewed Zoloft.
Again, illegals pay more than sales tax, i.e their IRS Tax ID number.
i undersatnd but u have to think that most of these people have families and are making less than 100 a day, how could they support their families if they took taxes away???
I LIVE MY LIFE A LICENSE SUSPENSION AT A TIME AND FOR THOSE SIX MONTHS OR MORE, I STILL DRIVE.
i never said it was main reason but a major contributing factor. maybe you should take some time and check out how much general healthcare cost are. i work for the largest TPA in the southeast i see 10,000's of claims each month. there is not general visit to a hospital under 100$ so yes, the cost are very high that hospitals are taking on. that is why hospitals like gwinnett medical are hurting for funds.Based on your first statement let's round up all the deadbeats (citizens) that don't pay taxes and ship them back to where they came from. Well wait....they're already here. Illegals receiving health benefits is not the main reason healthcare costs are skyhigh. It's not even in the top 5.
Think about the BILLIONS Americans bilk out of their own system, which includes tax fraud, false worker's comp claims, false malpractice claims, and etc. Who's the real felon? Furthermore, I would never turn down a person who needed healthcare services. I don't care whether you're illegal or not. I have yet to have a non-White customer return partially chewed Zoloft.
Again, illegals pay more than sales tax, i.e their IRS Tax ID number.
and as i stated above TIN still does not account for the amount of taxes that would of been paid in by illegals. contract labor is how contractors are getting round using illegals.
that is 500$ a week... that would be 30+k a year to the avg american paying taxes, so yes that is some cheese... not a lot but more than enough to live on
police/firemen officers start off making less then that.
thats some cheese, but you cane even compare other jobs to construction man
I LIVE MY LIFE A LICENSE SUSPENSION AT A TIME AND FOR THOSE SIX MONTHS OR MORE, I STILL DRIVE.
One last thing. Who the FUCK said Americans would do the jobs illegals are doing once they opened up? How many of you would mop up shit for below minimum wage? I'd say ZERO. Why? Americans think they are entitled to a cushy 40 hr a week job and weekends off.
How many homeless Asian and Latino people hit you up for money on a weekly basis? I haven't seen any.
WTF... speak english. so what your trying to say is construction is more important then giving your life for you country? thats all more the reason why illegals shouldn't be here... what do you think b/c you work hard labor entitles you to something?
How many employers would be able to offer jobs below minimum wage?
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just some of you think you are too good to paint somebody house for 7 an hour, i mean, they may be illegal, but they are humn, they just wana survive man, most of yall wont lift a finget for less tahn 10 an hour, yall are used to leaving the easy way man
I LIVE MY LIFE A LICENSE SUSPENSION AT A TIME AND FOR THOSE SIX MONTHS OR MORE, I STILL DRIVE.
I'd mop shit up... not for minimum wage tho.. like i said, thats the difference. I've actually had to do shitty jobs, but no, I wouldn't do them for a demeaning amount of money. These jobs weren't originally "below minimum wage" it's the fact that the illegal workers came here and swamped the job market and that lowered the wages. So yes, Americans WOULD do the jobs.
companys would be forced to pay more and stop breaking state/federal laws.
actually im born here, this is the country where i was born, but i would never go to war for this country, im hispanic and even though im born here there is always racism, and thats the reason im NOT proud to be an american, i dont give a fuck bout what yall say, im proud of what this country has given me and my family, but people here are just plain out ignorant
I LIVE MY LIFE A LICENSE SUSPENSION AT A TIME AND FOR THOSE SIX MONTHS OR MORE, I STILL DRIVE.
How many of those claims indicate illegal immigrant? LOL. I know how troubled the healthcare system is and was even 10 years ago. Blaming the illegals is a blanket statement and varies from region to region. Try blaming the loss of federal funds and the cost of technology. People want the latest and greatest services but don't want to pay for it.
oh i'm so sorry i fucking speak english, went to school, and use my brain so i don't have to break my back.
i don't want to hear shit about that, i remember making 4.25 and hour back in 95 working for win dixie when i was 14 years old. i used to mop floors, clean bathrooms, etc... i'm sure you had a job at 14. :jerkit:
seriously i hope you house catches on fire so you can kiss some ass to your local service men
actually i did, and u were making 4.25 been 14, i know people making 6 an hour and are over 30 years old man
I LIVE MY LIFE A LICENSE SUSPENSION AT A TIME AND FOR THOSE SIX MONTHS OR MORE, I STILL DRIVE.
Then the company would go out of business and create a need for more jobs, which would create an employers market, therefore driving down wages. My point is, the cycle will not stop. This bill will not make a difference.
thats my point i work for an insurance company... imagine the amount of claims that are going UNPAID.
lol, well you are shit out of luck since the fire station is across the street but thanks anyways, and by the way, my sisters husband is in the marines, he is mexican, and he always says the same thing, the only reason he is there is cause he is getting the citisenship, like i love usa but i hate the way people are
I LIVE MY LIFE A LICENSE SUSPENSION AT A TIME AND FOR THOSE SIX MONTHS OR MORE, I STILL DRIVE.
well boo fuckng hoo... if you are ILLEGAL you have no rights so you have NO OPINION.
If ya haven't realized yet, there are fucking morons in every country, so get over it. There is no perfect country with perfect people. The only difference is in America we dont execute people for being morons.... although it wouldn't be a bad idea.
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its cool man, all im saying you know, all ur ancestors started out the same way and here you are preventing people from trying to do the same thing ur ancestors did
I LIVE MY LIFE A LICENSE SUSPENSION AT A TIME AND FOR THOSE SIX MONTHS OR MORE, I STILL DRIVE.
Why? Because we have respect for ourselves and our property; because we respect our government and the decisions they make (not approve of all, but at least respect).
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^ wrong my family isn't asking for handouts. they came here legally and they worked for what they have, they paid their dues and still are.
Well, 90% of this board would cease to exist.
yeah, that would suck. We would miss you pharm_teg haha, just messin with yaWell, 90% of this board would cease to exist.
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bahhh you got fucking OWNED pharm_teg
yo, hold up, fcman, are you from cuba???
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Born and raised in America, grandparents came over legally right before the revolution.
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bahhh you got fucking OWNED pharm_teg
LoL..my point was made.
Edit: As long as I get my salary I'm content.
ya wait till you see the taxes they take out of that shitLoL..my point was made.
Edit: As long as I get my salary I'm content.
ya wait till you see the taxes they take out of that shit
I'm going to be a true American and file fraudulent tax returns.
I'm 3rd year and can't wait until rotations. I'm burned out.
your burned outI'm going to be a true American and file fraudulent tax returns.
I'm 3rd year and can't wait until rotations. I'm burned out.
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