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wtf are you babbling about? "illegals that own houses"... why the property taxes? do you own a home? do you know how much property taxes are? i pay more out of my paycheck in a month than i do on the taxes on my house in like 4 months...Quote:
Originally Posted by GsrCrx
you have no idea what your talking about.
Whatever dude, you don't know me from a hole in the wall. Think what you will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julio
Point is though, they are illegal. That is the key word. I didn't say I had a problem with people coming here. But do it the right way or don't do it at all. I break the law everyday in my car on the road, I also pay the consequeces when I get caught. They will be doing the same.
hold on again... OWN HOUSES!!! :lmao:
let me guess they PAID IN CASH, b/c they have credit right? :thinking: b/c illegals have SSN..
HOW DO THEY RUN THEIR CREDIT FOR A LOAN IF THEY DON'T HAVE SSN?
actually i know alot of illegal people that own houses, they buy them with a TAX ID NUMBER, so before u talk shit, get ur facts straight
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Originally Posted by admin
You know How many people are dead and for some reason are able to buy houses and build credit.. remember that y0 . ;)
oh let me guess the same TIN that they are working as contract labor under :lmao:Quote:
Originally Posted by GsrCrx
ya maybe if when the law passes they will start to weed through that bullshit and send them home. and yes you are still wrong b/c the little amount of taxes that contributed by property taxes from illegals isn't shit compared to what isn't being paid by wages :goodjob:
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Originally Posted by admin
Based on your first statement let's round up all the deadbeats (citizens) that don't pay taxes and ship them back to where they came from. Well wait....they're already here. Illegals receiving health benefits is not the main reason healthcare costs are skyhigh. It's not even in the top 5.
Think about the BILLIONS Americans bilk out of their own system, which includes tax fraud, false worker's comp claims, false malpractice claims, and etc. Who's the real felon? Furthermore, I would never turn down a person who needed healthcare services. I don't care whether you're illegal or not. I have yet to have a non-White customer return partially chewed Zoloft. :lmfao:
Again, illegals pay more than sales tax, i.e their IRS Tax ID number.
i undersatnd but u have to think that most of these people have families and are making less than 100 a day, how could they support their families if they took taxes away???
i never said it was main reason but a major contributing factor. maybe you should take some time and check out how much general healthcare cost are. i work for the largest TPA in the southeast i see 10,000's of claims each month. there is not general visit to a hospital under 100$ so yes, the cost are very high that hospitals are taking on. that is why hospitals like gwinnett medical are hurting for funds.Quote:
Originally Posted by pharm_teg
and as i stated above TIN still does not account for the amount of taxes that would of been paid in by illegals. contract labor is how contractors are getting round using illegals.
that is 500$ a week... that would be 30+k a year to the avg american paying taxes, so yes that is some cheese... not a lot but more than enough to live on :goodjob:Quote:
Originally Posted by GsrCrx
police/firemen officers start off making less then that.
thats some cheese, but you cane even compare other jobs to construction man
One last thing. Who the FUCK said Americans would do the jobs illegals are doing once they opened up? How many of you would mop up shit for below minimum wage? I'd say ZERO. Why? Americans think they are entitled to a cushy 40 hr a week job and weekends off.
How many homeless Asian and Latino people hit you up for money on a weekly basis? I haven't seen any.
WTF... speak english. so what your trying to say is construction is more important then giving your life for you country? thats all more the reason why illegals shouldn't be here... what do you think b/c you work hard labor entitles you to something?Quote:
Originally Posted by GsrCrx
How many employers would be able to offer jobs below minimum wage?Quote:
Originally Posted by pharm_teg
just some of you think you are too good to paint somebody house for 7 an hour, i mean, they may be illegal, but they are humn, they just wana survive man, most of yall wont lift a finget for less tahn 10 an hour, yall are used to leaving the easy way man
I'd mop shit up... not for minimum wage tho.. like i said, thats the difference. I've actually had to do shitty jobs, but no, I wouldn't do them for a demeaning amount of money. These jobs weren't originally "below minimum wage" it's the fact that the illegal workers came here and swamped the job market and that lowered the wages. So yes, Americans WOULD do the jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by pharm_teg
companys would be forced to pay more and stop breaking state/federal laws.Quote:
Originally Posted by pharm_teg
actually im born here, this is the country where i was born, but i would never go to war for this country, im hispanic and even though im born here there is always racism, and thats the reason im NOT proud to be an american, i dont give a fuck bout what yall say, im proud of what this country has given me and my family, but people here are just plain out ignorant
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Originally Posted by admin
How many of those claims indicate illegal immigrant? LOL. I know how troubled the healthcare system is and was even 10 years ago. Blaming the illegals is a blanket statement and varies from region to region. Try blaming the loss of federal funds and the cost of technology. People want the latest and greatest services but don't want to pay for it.
oh i'm so sorry i fucking speak english, went to school, and use my brain so i don't have to break my back.Quote:
Originally Posted by GsrCrx
i don't want to hear shit about that, i remember making 4.25 and hour back in 95 working for win dixie when i was 14 years old. i used to mop floors, clean bathrooms, etc... i'm sure you had a job at 14. :jerkit:
seriously i hope you house catches on fire so you can kiss some ass to your local service men :goodjob:Quote:
Originally Posted by GsrCrx
actually i did, and u were making 4.25 been 14, i know people making 6 an hour and are over 30 years old man
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Originally Posted by admin
Then the company would go out of business and create a need for more jobs, which would create an employers market, therefore driving down wages. My point is, the cycle will not stop. This bill will not make a difference.
thats my point i work for an insurance company... imagine the amount of claims that are going UNPAID.Quote:
Originally Posted by pharm_teg
lol, well you are shit out of luck since the fire station is across the street but thanks anyways, and by the way, my sisters husband is in the marines, he is mexican, and he always says the same thing, the only reason he is there is cause he is getting the citisenship, like i love usa but i hate the way people are
well boo fuckng hoo... if you are ILLEGAL you have no rights so you have NO OPINION.Quote:
Originally Posted by GsrCrx
If ya haven't realized yet, there are fucking morons in every country, so get over it. There is no perfect country with perfect people. The only difference is in America we dont execute people for being morons.... although it wouldn't be a bad idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by GsrCrx
++++++++ AAAAAAAAAAA +++++++++Quote:
Originally Posted by HyPer50
its cool man, all im saying you know, all ur ancestors started out the same way and here you are preventing people from trying to do the same thing ur ancestors did
Why? Because we have respect for ourselves and our property; because we respect our government and the decisions they make (not approve of all, but at least respect).Quote:
Originally Posted by GsrCrx
^ wrong my family isn't asking for handouts. they came here legally and they worked for what they have, they paid their dues and still are.
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Originally Posted by HyPer50
Well, 90% of this board would cease to exist. :bigok: :lmfao:
yeah, that would suck. We would miss you pharm_teg haha, just messin with yaQuote:
Originally Posted by pharm_teg
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Originally Posted by fcman
bahhh you got fucking OWNED pharm_teg :lmfao:
yo, hold up, fcman, are you from cuba???
Born and raised in America, grandparents came over legally right before the revolution.Quote:
Originally Posted by GsrCrx
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Originally Posted by admin
LoL..my point was made. :lmfao:
Edit: As long as I get my salary I'm content. :D
ya wait till you see the taxes they take out of that shit :goodjob: ; your a 3rd or 4th year?Quote:
Originally Posted by pharm_teg
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Originally Posted by admin
I'm going to be a true American and file fraudulent tax returns. :bigok:
I'm 3rd year and can't wait until rotations. I'm burned out.
your burned out :lmfao: , i'm married to a pharm student... i'm burned out :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:, you'll have to let me know if you take a rotation at Eglston, kate works there and bing from wTn is a manager there :goodjob:Quote:
Originally Posted by pharm_teg