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    i read what the bill is all it does is tax wire transfers and deny benefits to NON TAX PAYING people in Georgia. I am not seeing why if i pay taxes and someone else does they get the same benefits. That is literally getting something for nothing for any illegal citizen. And lastly it penalizes companies who try to hire illegal workers so that the company can save money. Companies who try and cheat like that deserve to be caught and lose more money then if they did the right thing and hired a person with full benefits like they should. I dont see what the problem with the bill is. If your illegally inside the state making money and transfering it back to wherever your home is then there should be regulations put on it.

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    WEll the manager where I work in ptc told all the Latinos that if they didnt show up, he would fire them. They all showed up, but the Latinos arte making a good point about this.
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    Only non tax paying illegals should be punished, and that should go towards any immigrant



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    This bill, if enacted, won't make a bit of difference. It's just political posturing. I'm sure it will be rewritten MANY times before it reaches the Governor. The original intent will be blurred by that point. I hope everyone realizes that most industrialized nations were built by the enslavement of immigrants.

    Someone mentioned that real "Americans" really do want to work. Unfortunately, I'll have to disagree. I'm sure the SSA, insurance companies that pay out millions on fraudulent workmens comp claims, and the local unemployment office would probably agree with me. BTW, I rarely encounter homeless Asians or Latinos downtown hitting me up for money. I guess they would rather make $2.50 a hour than suffer the humiliation of eating a decomposing burger or sharing their cardboard box with a sewer rat.

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    Eh, who gives a fuck? Ban the illegals already. That is some bullshit that they expect all of us to bare the weight of taking care of people who just want to milk our government for our hard earned benefits.. I may be a good samaritan but they're trying to get services from our own country before we even get them. I applaud this bill and I am going to start calling the INS more often..
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    they are asking for equality - thats all. They are here, working, buying homes, cars, etc.. the fuck you talkin about getting services? Banning illegals? This isnt a internet forum we are talkin about homey. Illegals leaving this country, that will never happen. The US depends too much on them for the work force and economy in general. These "illegals" spend billions of dollars, trust me its not in the best interest of the US for that to happen

    Do you think you can spot an illegal just by looking at them, or are you going to start going up to people asking if they are legal???

    thats just a dumbass comment...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thinkfast®
    they are asking for equality - thats all. They are here, working, buying homes, cars, etc.. the fuck you talkin about getting services? Banning illegals? This isnt a internet forum we are talkin about homey. Illegals leaving this country, that will never happen. The US depends too much on them for the work force and economy in general. These "illegals" spend billions of dollars, trust me its not in the best interest of the US for that to happen

    Do you think you can spot an illegal just by looking at them, or are you going to start going up to people asking if they are legal???

    thats just a dumbass comment...
    i agree millions of non-us-citizens will keep coming in to this country ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by babygurl
    but become a citizen and avoid BS like this
    If only it was that easy.

    If you actually knew how difficult it is to become a citizen, and the time (2+years at least) and money ($3000+ at least) it takes, it won't be a surprise that many chose to be illegal.
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    this dude is kickin my ass in yahoo pool......



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    Quote Originally Posted by ISAtlanta300
    If only it was that easy.

    If you actually knew how difficult it is to become a citizen, and the time (2+years at least) and money ($3000+ at least) it takes, it won't be a surprise that many chose to be illegal.
    ya well they choose wrong ! and we are the ones who pay for it, we pay for there medical and there childerns schooling, they pay no taxes, its total bullshit, its time for the make a border that cant be crossed ! lets all join the minute man !
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    Quote Originally Posted by thinkfast®
    they are asking for equality - thats all. They are here, working, buying homes, cars, etc.. the fuck you talkin about getting services? Banning illegals? This isnt a internet forum we are talkin about homey. Illegals leaving this country, that will never happen. The US depends too much on them for the work force and economy in general. These "illegals" spend billions of dollars, trust me its not in the best interest of the US for that to happen

    Do you think you can spot an illegal just by looking at them, or are you going to start going up to people asking if they are legal???

    thats just a dumbass comment...
    Exactly what i was thinking.



    This movement is much like the civil rights movement, just different circumstances and the hispanics have a whole lot less ground to stand on. They arent really discriminated against in the whole this fountain for you, that one for them scheme; its jus pure racism they are going by. Well all i can say is, unless your legal here, you have NO GROUNDS TO STAND ON.

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    America as a country would collapse if weren't for people on the bottom of the economic pyramid who provide cheap (or free) labor. When this country was founded Blacks provided that labor and now many Hispanics do that job. Those who are calling for illegal aliens to be sent back to their home countries probably don't recognize this fact.

    Anyway, I think it's a closedminded view to say that America shouldn't adapt to its changing culture. If that was the case, women wouldn't vote in this country and we would still have an outright racist, segregated society. Change is going to happen and that change is the increasing prevalence of cultures other than European in this country. You can either change with the times or be left behind.

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    I honestly don't see what the problem is here. If you are an illegal immigrant to this country that is something you brought on yourself. You cannot complain about us wanting to at least tax you so that we can make back some of the money we spend on putting your children though school. Im sure if I moved into your home and started eating your food and using your utilities without your permission and without compensating you, you wouldn't be to happy about it.

    Illegal immigration should be a felony, it is a huge threat to national security and needs to be stopped. The same routes that illegal immigrants, even those that do not mean harm to our country, use can be used by terrorists or other groups that do want to harm the U.S.

    Also I do know that hispanics take many of the jobs that Americans will not take but I also believe this is partly because Americans will not take those jobs for the same amount of pay as the hispanic workers.

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    Basically we have the business owners to blame here. Bitches, pay higher wages and pay the unemployment and all will be well. I mean, whats an extra $50k to you when your already making profit of $500k???

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    Quote Originally Posted by R3RUN
    I honestly don't see what the problem is here. If you are an illegal immigrant to this country that is something you brought on yourself. You cannot complain about us wanting to at least tax you so that we can make back some of the money we spend on putting your children though school. Im sure if I moved into your home and started eating your food and using your utilities without your permission and without compensating you, you wouldn't be to happy about it.

    Illegal immigration should be a felony, it is a huge threat to national security and needs to be stopped. The same routes that illegal immigrants, even those that do not mean harm to our country, use can be used by terrorists or other groups that do want to harm the U.S.

    Also I do know that hispanics take many of the jobs that Americans will not take but I also believe this is partly because Americans will not take those jobs for the same amount of pay as the hispanic workers.

    yea but its sorta unfair to target only the hispanics - what aobut illegal asians or indians and that?

    There was actualyl a documentary on this - something about how if thte US deported all of the etimated illegal working population of hispanics, the US would have to employ everyone from 9th grade up to keep the economy running


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormhammer
    yea but its sorta unfair to target only the hispanics - what aobut illegal asians or indians and that?

    There was actualyl a documentary on this - something about how if thte US deported all of the etimated illegal working population of hispanics, the US would have to employ everyone from 9th grade up to keep the economy running
    Yep. Not only hispanics. My people too, believe it or not, lol. However hispanics are the main group with the most power. But in my opinion, ALL THE ILLEGALS NEED TO BE TREATED THE SAME.

    Crack down on them, tighten the border with militia's, crack down on illegal's already here, and hit the businesses with heavy fines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastboyamin
    Basically we have the business owners to blame here. Bitches, pay higher wages and pay the unemployment and all will be well. I mean, whats an extra $50k to you when your already making profit of $500k???
    This is very true. The sad fact is that Americans have done this to themselves, both in politics and in the private sector. Greedy contractors hire illegals so that they can make more profit. This is exactly what some of the recent legislation is attempting to address, and its about time.
    I work in IT with a lot of different ethnicities. Probably 1/3 of my associates are Indian or Asian, and many of them are either naturalized or permanent residents. Why is it that they can come over, go through the process, and become viable, taxpaying members of the economy, while we have millions of others who can not? The process is the same for everyone, though :confused:
    And for those of you who believe that the economy of the country is so dependant on illegals, you are buying into liberal propoganda. Yes, certain products, like produce, may cost more, and construction costs may be a little bit higher, but the reality is that it really wouldnt hurt most people. Its just like gasoline...everyone bitches, but in reality, when is the last time you needed to drive somewhere, but didnt, because gas cost too much? The economy will even itself out. Paying an extra buck for a bag of oranges will pale in comparison to what will happen in a couple generations when the government is having to support a huge population of laborers who are now needing social services but their previous generations never paid into them. The US has been such a strong world power over the past 150 years because we had a good balance of skilled and unskilled labor, which is what immigration laws are designed to protect. The "pyramid" has to be balanced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R3RUN
    Illegal immigration should be a felony, it is a huge threat to national security and needs to be stopped. The same routes that illegal immigrants, even those that do not mean harm to our country, use can be used by terrorists or other groups that do want to harm the U.S.
    I highly doubt America will do much to slow hispanic immigration, because legislators know this would upset aspects of country's economy. Trust me, people of Middle Eastern descent are getting profiled heavily and they have a hard time getting into the US nowadays, even students, so the situation of them vs. Hispanic immigration is completely different.

    Also, keep in mind that while there is a good number of illegals in the US, there is also a large number of Hispanics who are legal residents or full citizens and many of them vote Republican. So stick that in your "liberal propaganda" pipe and smoke it. lol

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