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    Spoken like someone who lives downtown and doesn't drive on I-75 in rush hour traffic. Or maybe like someone who likes to sit in parking lots for extended periods of time.
    I live downtown , but i work in East Cobb , i deal with Cobb Traffic EVERY DAY.

    Look lets be reasonable.

    1) We dont know what fixes they have in place because no details have been released, so getting all upset about traffic is premature.
    2) Tell me how moving 40k fans from downtown to Cobb or anywhere else doesnt create traffic?
    3) People are ignoring the fact that the stadium is moving closer to the fan base=less traveling= LESS TRAFFIC BECAUSE LESS CARS? MAYBE
    4) Lets be honest, the Braves dont sell out EVERY game, average attendance i think was in the 20K? So, if HALF that 20K is local to the new stadium, you are talking about maybe 5000 extra cars? or less? People are acting like its 40k cars coming to the area.
    5) Traffic is always a problem, im sure the Braves and Cobb know that.

    When I leave East Cobb at 630 and dont go to my gym, i have to sit in East Cobb surface street traffic, 285 > 75 Cobb traffic, 75 South into downtown traffic , you know what thats like if say, the Braves or like tonight, THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL IS IN TOWN? Its rediculous, but its what happens.

    Whats the solution, building a stadium in the boonies where no one will travel anyway? Seems legit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    I live downtown , but i work in East Cobb , i deal with Cobb Traffic EVERY DAY.

    Look lets be reasonable.

    1) We dont know what fixes they have in place because no details have been released, so getting all upset about traffic is premature.
    2) Tell me how moving 40k fans from downtown to Cobb or anywhere else doesnt create traffic?
    3) People are ignoring the fact that the stadium is moving closer to the fan base=less traveling= LESS TRAFFIC BECAUSE LESS CARS? MAYBE
    4) Lets be honest, the Braves dont sell out EVERY game, average attendance i think was in the 20K? So, if HALF that 20K is local to the new stadium, you are talking about maybe 5000 extra cars? or less? People are acting like its 40k cars coming to the area.
    5) Traffic is always a problem, im sure the Braves and Cobb know that.

    When I leave East Cobb at 630 and dont go to my gym, i have to sit in East Cobb surface street traffic, 285 > 75 Cobb traffic, 75 South into downtown traffic , you know what thats like if say, the Braves or like tonight, THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL IS IN TOWN? Its rediculous, but its what happens.

    Whats the solution, building a stadium in the boonies where no one will travel anyway? Seems legit
    Living downtown, you are going in the opposite direction of traffic.

    Don't you think that they have already considered traffic, and yet don't release any potential strategies early about how they plan to address it? In the document of understanding, they only had one page for transportation, and some of the proposed traffic reduction plans, like a bus system that will cost an approximated $500 million do not have any funding for them.
    Residents express concerns over traffic after Memorandum of... | www.ajc.com


    I'm not against them moving to Cobb. I just think that anytime you commit your taxpayers to spending a large sum like that, you should put it to a vote, and I think that it won't be quite as simple to implement as they are trying to sell it.
    Quite a few people are against it though:
    FWIW: Emails run heavily against Cobb stadium | www.myajc.com

    Cobb County Commission chairman, Tim Lee, is planning to spend $300 million of Cobb County tax money on the new stadium, including $9 million from property taxes - but that's not the whole story.
    While the number reported is $300 million, the truth is that at annual payments of $17.9 million for 30 years, the actual public outlay including interest will be $537 million, plus $14 million for an upfront "transportation contribution." This is in addition to the county's 50 percent share of future improvements and repairs. This figure EXCLUDES the $10 million Cobb CID businesses will contribute in self-imposed taxes.
    When he was asked why no public hearing is scheduled before the commissioner vote on Tuesday to spend at least $551 million in public money over the next 30 years on the new Braves stadium, he said, "We've made a decision we're not going to do that. I don't know that having a public hearing would add to the objective of getting more input since we've got a lot of input to date."

    Seems like those in Cobb will end up paying for everyone else to watch the Braves play ball, and the people who have been buying up the land in the Cobb Galleria are this year will make a fortune.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    Living downtown, you are going in the opposite direction of traffic.

    Don't you think that they have already considered traffic, and yet don't release any potential strategies early about how they plan to address it? In the document of understanding, they only had one page for transportation, and some of the proposed traffic reduction plans, like a bus system that will cost an approximated $500 million do not have any funding for them.
    Residents express concerns over traffic after Memorandum of... | www.ajc.com


    I'm not against them moving to Cobb. I just think that anytime you commit your taxpayers to spending a large sum like that, you should put it to a vote, and I think that it won't be quite as simple to implement as they are trying to sell it.
    Quite a few people are against it though:
    FWIW: Emails run heavily against Cobb stadium | www.myajc.com

    Cobb County Commission chairman, Tim Lee, is planning to spend $300 million of Cobb County tax money on the new stadium, including $9 million from property taxes - but that's not the whole story.
    While the number reported is $300 million, the truth is that at annual payments of $17.9 million for 30 years, the actual public outlay including interest will be $537 million, plus $14 million for an upfront "transportation contribution." This is in addition to the county's 50 percent share of future improvements and repairs. This figure EXCLUDES the $10 million Cobb CID businesses will contribute in self-imposed taxes.
    When he was asked why no public hearing is scheduled before the commissioner vote on Tuesday to spend at least $551 million in public money over the next 30 years on the new Braves stadium, he said, "We've made a decision we're not going to do that. I don't know that having a public hearing would add to the objective of getting more input since we've got a lot of input to date."

    Seems like those in Cobb will end up paying for everyone else to watch the Braves play ball, and the people who have been buying up the land in the Cobb Galleria are this year will make a fortune.
    People coming from 400 to the southside use 75/85 connector, people going from Cobb to downtown use the connector. Its against main traffic patterns sure, but come sit with me at 630 pm trying to go southbound on 75/85. Its bad, not as bad as 75 NB past cobb cloverleaf, but close.

    Theres gonna be problems no matter what, to me, this was the best solution, traffic or not. Traffic solutions havent really been released mainly because we dont know about funding and what is planned.

    As far as no public vote, depends how they levy the taxes and who are affected . Cobb Business taxes is a win win. They pay more in taxes , to generate more revenue by the stadium. More of a "investment".

    Individual property taxes, not so sure thats a win win. Unless somehow their property is worth more, which isnt usually the case
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