(Poll) Should the politics section be removed?

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08-04-2013, 09:41 AM
Sinfix_15

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08-04-2013, 12:23 PM
David88vert

I'm going to state it this way - he who pays the bills makes the rules. If the owner(s) see the political/religion section as a benefit to the site, then it should stay. If they see it as a negative or as non-beneficial, then they should delete it and tell everyone to go someplace else to go discuss those topics. The bottom line is that only those paying for the site have any real input on the direction of the site.
08-05-2013, 12:00 AM
-EnVus-

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

Clearly an oversight by the people who manage this place coughyoucough..... rather than building a sandcastle in your vagina and dawning the cape of captain save a hoe, you could have made a simple technical adjustment and accomplished everything you wanted.

Should the bible be banned from book stores or the public based on the notion that it offends a portion of people who are affected by it? You say that your actions were triggered by speaking with some asians who were offended by political views being thrown in their face. Do you share the same views towards other offenses? or just those that support your own belief system? Do you think imagery of a man being nailed to a piece of wood is appropriate "activity feed" material for the real world? Do you think openly telling people that they will burn for an eternity is civil respectful discussion? Do you take the same approach at your local church and warn people that they may be offending people who do not wish to participate in the "religious forum"?

Just curious

You are over reacting you're threads/Post were not removed just locked for discussion but still very much view able. I will ignore everything about religion you posted cause this is not the religion section don't act like a noob Sin.
08-14-2013, 04:33 PM
Sinfix_15

FYI, politics still in the activity feed, not sure if that's on purpose or not.
10-24-2013, 02:11 PM
Echonova

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10-24-2013, 03:20 PM
BanginJimmy

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Originally Posted by D3UC3S

Sidenoteepicderail...i just got a house in woodstock and will be throwing a mad party in a few weeks....real niggas will get invites

What about white people?

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Originally Posted by David88vert

I'm going to state it this way - he who pays the bills makes the rules. If the owner(s) see the political/religion section as a benefit to the site, then it should stay. If they see it as a negative or as non-beneficial, then they should delete it and tell everyone to go someplace else to go discuss those topics. The bottom line is that only those paying for the site have any real input on the direction of the site.

Couldnt agree more.

I voted to ban both sinfix and blank. Any contribution either of them make is outweighed by their mindless babble.
10-24-2013, 04:09 PM
Browning151

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Originally Posted by BanginJimmy

I voted to ban both sinfix and blank. Any contribution either of them make is outweighed by their mindless babble.

Could be worse, you could have Blank and Total_Blender both posting in there.
10-24-2013, 05:29 PM
Sinfix_15

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Originally Posted by BanginJimmy

What about white people?

Couldnt agree more.

I voted to ban both sinfix and blank. Any contribution either of them make is outweighed by their mindless babble.

My political views are almost directly in line with your own. I just dont take my asshole shoes off before stepping into the politics section. If not for Blank, i probably wouldnt feel the need to be an asshole. I follow news and politics as much as anyone here, i just dont fit the personality mold of most people who are interested in news or politics.
10-24-2013, 08:06 PM
.blank cd

So this is how tony got run off.
10-24-2013, 08:06 PM
Elbow

I don't see a reason why it should even be considered for deletion.
10-24-2013, 08:07 PM
Elbow

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Originally Posted by .blank cd

So this is how tony got run off.

Huh?
10-25-2013, 12:07 AM
Scotsman

Hands down this has been the best thread i have read on here in ages. Speechless at several moments , i totally agree with the news feed idea , or at the very least looked into. And to Sinfix

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10-25-2013, 01:29 AM
RandomGuy

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

FYI, politics still in the activity feed, not sure if that's on purpose or not.

It is for logged in users who have over 1000 posts. That way it's established that they're already car folks. Basically so new users know that it's primarily a car site.

I like the politics section too, but I was at AutoZone one day and there was this kid working there I knew for a long time who was always doing cool builds and I asked him if he's still on. He said he surfs for parts, but stopped posting discussion because he felt everyone on here was racist. I couldn't argue otherwise, just looking at the activity feed (full of sinfix/blankcd/etc bickering- some of which I found to be hilarious). I kind of liked the fact that the polarity existed- we have people on complete opposite sides of it and extremely vocal. I think the truth is that most of us are probably in the middle and the guys on the extremes usually have the most to say.

I'm like damn if it's going to discourage the real people we want from coming to the site, is it even necessary? And on the flip side, I can't really justify removing the section- especially at times like these. So I figured politics chat among gearheads is cool. I hate talking politics period, but I don't always mind when it's with like-minded folks.

So with that said, I figured a good way to handle it was to let someone join as a car enthusiast and when it's apparent that they're here for that reason, the other sections open up. That way people don't come to the site wanting to talk politics when they see it in the activity feed or in a google search. I can care less if it hurts traffic.
10-25-2013, 08:24 AM
Sinfix_15

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Originally Posted by RandomGuy

It is for logged in users who have over 1000 posts. That way it's established that they're already car folks. Basically so new users know that it's primarily a car site.

I like the politics section too, but I was at AutoZone one day and there was this kid working there I knew for a long time who was always doing cool builds and I asked him if he's still on. He said he surfs for parts, but stopped posting discussion because he felt everyone on here was racist. I couldn't argue otherwise, just looking at the activity feed (full of sinfix/blankcd/etc bickering- some of which I found to be hilarious). I kind of liked the fact that the polarity existed- we have people on complete opposite sides of it and extremely vocal. I think the truth is that most of us are probably in the middle and the guys on the extremes usually have the most to say.

I'm like damn if it's going to discourage the real people we want from coming to the site, is it even necessary? And on the flip side, I can't really justify removing the section- especially at times like these. So I figured politics chat among gearheads is cool. I hate talking politics period, but I don't always mind when it's with like-minded folks.

So with that said, I figured a good way to handle it was to let someone join as a car enthusiast and when it's apparent that they're here for that reason, the other sections open up. That way people don't come to the site wanting to talk politics when they see it in the activity feed or in a google search. I can care less if it hurts traffic.

Well done sir.

I agree that me and blank are on complete opposite ends of the spectrum. Blank feels like he is in the middle.... like any radical left wing extremist would. :chuckles:
10-25-2013, 03:45 PM
bu villain

It has deteriorated to the point I no longer feel it is worth my time to engage in discussion there but should it be removed? Nah. It's more about personal insults and angry rants than political discussion but that seems to be how some of the other users like it.
10-25-2013, 07:00 PM
Sinfix_15

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Originally Posted by bu villain

It has deteriorated to the point I no longer feel it is worth my time to engage in discussion there but should it be removed? Nah. It's more about personal insults and angry rants than political discussion but that seems to be how some of the other users like it.

Politics should always be an angry rant made by Americans who are being critical of their government.

Ranting about Government should be a topic that brings us together.....
10-28-2013, 04:11 PM
bu villain

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

Politics should always be an angry rant made by Americans who are being critical of their government.

Ranting about Government should be a topic that brings us together.....

Even though I disagree with your characterization of what politics should be (i.e., citizens vs the government they voted for), that would not disuade me from participating. It would simply be another topic for discussion. It is the personal insults against forum members that turns me off the most. I understand with passionate discussion, people can lose their cool but it has become a dominant part of the forum, not just an occasional distraction. Honestly it gets so juvenile, at times it's not much more than pages of people calling each other stupid with a bunch of political jargon thrown in.
10-28-2013, 04:17 PM
.blank cd

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10-28-2013, 04:35 PM
Browning151

Oh noes, he called you a pouty douche.
10-28-2013, 04:42 PM
D3UC3S

Did blank just snitch????

But yes, personal insults are juvenile in a political forum. Fair game in BS forum
10-28-2013, 04:47 PM
.blank cd

There was a comment that went with it that didn't get posted. Something about sand and a vagina.

Either that or something about not hiding behind a worthless rep system. If you say it, make it known! Lol
10-28-2013, 04:56 PM
Browning151

Was that a half-assed attempt at a call out? C'mon, if you're gonna stir the shit at least put a little more effort into it.
10-28-2013, 05:03 PM
.blank cd

Sinfix calls himself out with little to no effort required on my behalf.
10-28-2013, 06:11 PM
C230K

I looked at the poll results and a lot of people want to ban blankcd. Which I highly disagree, because a person like Sinfix needs blankcd. Kinda like how The Joker needs Batman.
10-28-2013, 08:19 PM
Sinfix_15

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Originally Posted by .blank cd

There was a comment that went with it that didn't get posted. Something about sand and a vagina.

Either that or something about not hiding behind a worthless rep system. If you say it, make it known! Lol

LOL......

Yeah..... i'm really hiding behind the rep system and trying to keep my feelings about you a secret. I sure hope the word doesnt get out.... wouldnt want anybody to know how i feel.
10-28-2013, 08:28 PM
Sinfix_15

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Originally Posted by bu villain

Even though I disagree with your characterization of what politics should be (i.e., citizens vs the government they voted for), that would not disuade me from participating. It would simply be another topic for discussion. It is the personal insults against forum members that turns me off the most. I understand with passionate discussion, people can lose their cool but it has become a dominant part of the forum, not just an occasional distraction. Honestly it gets so juvenile, at times it's not much more than pages of people calling each other stupid with a bunch of political jargon thrown in.

Sounds like what happens in the actual government.
10-28-2013, 08:49 PM
Sinfix_15

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Originally Posted by C230K

I looked at the poll results and a lot of people want to ban blankcd. Which I highly disagree, because a person like Sinfix needs blankcd. Kinda like how The Joker needs Batman.

Blank is more of a......
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...4e/Sally_3.png http://musicians4freedom.com/wp-cont...on-300x233.jpg

to my........
http://www.beyondhollywood.com/uploa...ovie-Image.jpg

and props to anyone whos actually seen this movie and realizes how spot on this is. So spot on that i might just start calling Blank "Sally" from now on.

I bet Obama got wood in his pants when he saw these things roll out.
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10-28-2013, 09:03 PM
Echonova

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

Blank is more of a......
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...4e/Sally_3.png http://musicians4freedom.com/wp-cont...on-300x233.jpg

to my........
http://www.beyondhollywood.com/uploa...ovie-Image.jpg

and props to anyone whos actually seen this movie and realizes how spot on this is. So spot on that i might just start calling Blank "Sally" from now on.

Are you an effective team?
10-29-2013, 04:05 PM
bu villain

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

Sounds like what happens in the actual government.

Exactly! The same government with horrible approval ratings that has a hard time getting anything done. You would think people who bitch about how poorly government works, wouldn't emulate their tone and tactics themselves.
10-29-2013, 07:20 PM
Sinfix_15

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Originally Posted by bu villain

Exactly! The same government with horrible approval ratings that has a hard time getting anything done. You would think people who bitch about how poorly government works, wouldn't emulate their tone and tactics themselves.

You know what.... you're right...... we should put the government in charge of absolutely every aspect of our lives.

I'm arguing for the side that wants less government................ a lot less............... remember?
10-30-2013, 03:35 PM
bu villain

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

You know what.... you're right...... we should put the government in charge of absolutely every aspect of our lives.

I'm arguing for the side that wants less government................ a lot less............... remember?

huh? Who said anything about putting government in charge of anything in this thread? This is about the value of the politics forum on this site. Stay on topic please.
10-30-2013, 03:40 PM
.blank cd

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Originally Posted by bu villain

huh? Who said anything about putting government in charge of anything in this thread? This is about the value of the politics forum on this site. Stay on topic please.

I think you blew his mind earlier.
10-30-2013, 09:02 PM
Sinfix_15

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Originally Posted by bu villain

huh? Who said anything about putting government in charge of anything in this thread? This is about the value of the politics forum on this site. Stay on topic please.

You said nobody approves of the government and everyone should try to not be like the government we all bitch about.

The government being bad is the source of the bitching.
10-31-2013, 04:11 PM
bu villain

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

You said nobody approves of the government and everyone should try to not be like the government we all bitch about.

The government being bad is the source of the bitching.

I agree but what does that have to do with the level of civility in the politics forum here? If the government is juvenile and inneffective, the politics forum on IA must be as well?
10-31-2013, 07:19 PM
Sinfix_15

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Originally Posted by bu villain

I agree but what does that have to do with the level of civility in the politics forum here? If the government is juvenile and inneffective, the politics forum on IA must be as well?

Our 1 delusional participant who shamelessly defends the indefensible and refuses to let reality get in the way of an argument, has a way of frustrating people from time to time.
11-04-2013, 03:26 PM
bu villain

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

Our 1 delusional participant who shamelessly defends the indefensible and refuses to let reality get in the way of an argument, has a way of frustrating people from time to time.

You are usually a proponent of personal responsibility so I'm surprised to hear that one "delusional participant" is responsible for yours or anyone else's behavior.
11-04-2013, 03:33 PM
Sinfix_15

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Originally Posted by bu villain

You are usually a proponent of personal responsibility so I'm surprised to hear that one "delusional participant" is responsible for yours or anyone else's behavior.

I'm perfectly fine with my behavior. An explanation is not an excuse.

I'm explaining to you that the debates only get heated when people are frustrated with Blank telling them that 2+2=ham sandwich

I take being described as someone who is a proponent of personal responsibility as a compliment. Thank you.
11-05-2013, 03:36 PM
bu villain

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

I'm perfectly fine with my behavior. An explanation is not an excuse.

I'm explaining to you that the debates only get heated when people are frustrated with Blank telling them that 2+2=ham sandwich

The thing is, most of the topics in politics revolve around personal values and complex ideas. Almost nothing in politics is as simple as a math problem. Your behavior is of course your choice, which you are clearly content with, but I see it in the same way I see the juvenile bickering in congress. That is not the kind of discussion I am interested in engaging in myself, which is why I have stopped posting in that section. I hope at some point the members will be able to have a conversation without insulting each other but I'm not holding my breath.

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

I take being described as someone who is a proponent of personal responsibility as a compliment. Thank you.

It was a compliment.

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