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    5 people are stranded on a deserted island. Of the 5 people, two are female and three are male. There is no food or water on the island and given the current conditions, everyone will die in 10 days. While searching the island, the only thing to be found was a guard outpost. In that outpost there was a calendar stating that a rescue boat had just routinely checked the island for cast aways 2 days ago and would return again for another routine check in 28 days. Inside the outpost is 4 pills that sustain life for 30 days. The pills become useless once they are broke open, so they cannot be portioned. The island contains no edible resources or drinkable water.


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    Male #1 26 years old, fresh college graduate, on vacation prior to seeking employment. Physically fit, attractive, Moderately wealthy parents 150-200k yr.
    Male #2 35 years old, small business owner, avg physical build, moderately wealthy 150-200k yr, is married with 1 child.
    Male #3 55 years old, retired mechanic, lives on a fixed income of $1200/mo, married with 2 grown kids and 3 grandchildren.
    Female #1 21 years old, hasnt started college, waitress that makes 19k yr and has no kids, attractive
    Female #2 30 years old, single mother, owns a small tax business and makes 50k yr. Avg appearance.

    None of the 5 will volunteer to forego the pill. They are all insistent on survival.


    What do you do?
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    Are the women good looking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    Are the women good looking?
    for now let's say all parties are avg looking.

    I will give a larger bio on the group later to see how that changes people's answer

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    Make a fishing pole and go fishing.

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    I want the group bio first

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    updated with bio. Will revise the bio if you feel any more details should be included.

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    Anyone volunteering to forego the pill?

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    Are there 6 total people on this island? You said I'm one of 5, then you listed 5 people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Are there 6 total people on this island? You said I'm one of 5, then you listed 5 people.
    Corrected. There are 5 people total, you are not one of them. That way that variable is removed and opting to forego the pill yourself is not an option.

    None of the 5 are volunteering to forego the pill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbow View Post
    Make a fishing pole and go fishing.
    What to do with the 4 pills? which member of the group should be reliant on securing his/her own survival?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    What do you do?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Corrected. There are 5 people total, you are not one of them. That way that variable is removed and opting to forego the pill yourself is not an option.

    None of the 5 are volunteering to forego the pill.
    If I'm not on the island how can I "do" anything? Let them fight amongst themselves... LOL

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    Male #3 needs to volunteer to not take the pill.
    He is the oldest, and has enjoyed much of life.
    He could also be the most experienced with acquiring food.
    Also, whats stopping the other 4 from helping him attain food?
    or if they were cool they could just have a 5 way death fight.

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    Easy:

    Give pills to the four most physically able to survive.
    They must in return provide and care for the 5th member who is weakest and can't provide for themselves.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Black R View Post
    Easy:

    Give pills to the four most physically able to survive.
    They must in return provide and care for the 5th member who is weakest and can't provide for themselves.
    The weakest member is not willing to compromise. All parties want a pill.

    Quote Originally Posted by RustyToaster View Post
    Male #3 needs to volunteer to not take the pill.
    He is the oldest, and has enjoyed much of life.
    He could also be the most experienced with acquiring food.
    Also, whats stopping the other 4 from helping him attain food?
    or if they were cool they could just have a 5 way death fight.
    These are the types of answers i'm looking for. Keep them coming.

    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    If I'm not on the island how can I "do" anything? Let them fight amongst themselves... LOL
    For the sake of debate, you have control over the outcome even though you are not present. Though i will say your answer of let them fend for themselves is a reasonable one. Now, given that, how does it work out? how should it work out?

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    Well if they are going to be stubborn about it... Nobody gets a pill, survival of the fittest. Once the first person dies the remaining four take the pill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    Well if they are going to be stubborn about it... Nobody gets a pill, survival of the fittest. Once the first person dies the remaining four take the pill.
    So if the 55 year old man kills the 21 year old, that's ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    So if the 55 year old man kills the 21 year old, that's ok?
    I was thinking more along the lines of the first to starve to death... But if he's willing to do it, sure. Just means in 28 days when the boat returns he'll be going to jail for the rest of his life.


    Unless he kills them all and hides the bodies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    What to do with the 4 pills? which member of the group should be reliant on securing his/her own survival?
    Does this imply that its possible to acquire food? hunt/gather?

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    Draw straws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Draw straws.

    Only way to be fair
    Throwing all the pills in the ocean is also fair, wouldn't ya think?

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    Where is Jeff Probst while all this is going on?

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    Throw all the pills away and hope for the best.

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    Try there best to survive and give the pill only to someone who is truly ABOUT TO DIE
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    Have a train/gang bang with the females for 10 days. Then everyone dies happy. Fuck dem pills....
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    Everyone agree to fight for survival and only use the pills for those who can't adapt after 12 days or become injured/sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Does this imply that its possible to acquire food? hunt/gather?
    No provisions on the island. No fruit and no animals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbow View Post
    Throw all the pills away and hope for the best.
    Fairness is worth 4 people having to die that otherwise would not have had to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Throwing all the pills in the ocean is also fair, wouldn't ya think?
    Would fairness out weigh some surviving?

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    With no water, the pills won't matter. Dehydration can't be solved with a pill.
    For the sake of this discussion, we'll assume that the pill will solve no water. They'll still die. Why? Wait for it....

















    For a pill large enough to have enough to sustain you for all those days, it would have to be a huge pill.
    Now how are you going to get that pill down if you have no water?
    Like I said, no water, they all die.
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    If you had to decide... and support your answer, I'd say Female #1. I'm sure if this scenario happened to any of us in real life- she'd probably be the last one picked haha.

    If we have to base our answers on logic, it makes sense- she has the least to offer to the world or the other survivors. Think in terms of education, experience, resources, etc. She also causes comparatively less trauma to others in disappearing (no kids/dependants/etc) - Assuming all of that was disclosed.

    But Male 1 should make Male 2 and Male 3 fight over a single pill and leave with the girls and have his rich parents grab them with the family helicopter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    With no water, the pills won't matter. Dehydration can't be solved with a pill.
    For the sake of this discussion, we'll assume that the pill will solve no water. They'll still die. Why? Wait for it....

















    For a pill large enough to have enough to sustain you for all those days, it would have to be a huge pill.
    Now how are you going to get that pill down if you have no water?
    Like I said, no water, they all die.
    You cant change the perimeters of the discussion. The exercise is based around making the choice and why. For the sake of debate, the pill will keep you alive for 30 days with no food and water. This "pill" existing or not is of no significance.

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    Also a less "logical" answer would be:

    If they can survive 10 days in current situations, give them out based on acts of compassion towards the other 4 during their last moments. Maybe the key to get a pill is to offer to volunteer to forego the pill?

    But I kinda don't want to answer because part of me thinks this is a troll post that somehow relates back to democrat/republican drama and each person represents a different tax bracket and the pill is affirmative action, hahahahahah

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGuy View Post
    Also a less "logical" answer would be:

    If they can survive 10 days in current situations, give them out based on acts of compassion towards the other 4 during their last moments. Maybe the key to get a pill is to offer to volunteer to forego the pill?

    But I kinda don't want to answer because part of me thinks this is a troll post that somehow relates back to democrat/republican drama and each person represents a different tax bracket and the pill is affirmative action, hahahahahah
    It's not a troll post. It's just an exercise of your thought process. Sometimes theoretical scenarios are better at getting your true feelings, since you have no obligations to a given answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3UC3S View Post
    Hide all pills and the smartest, most driven 4 will find them and survive.
    Who hides them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    You cant change the perimeters of the discussion. The exercise is based around making the choice and why. For the sake of debate, the pill will keep you alive for 30 days with no food and water. This "pill" existing or not is of no significance.
    Just tell me - how are you going to swallow that BIG pill with NO water????????

    Or, is the pill really a suppository? If so, one of those males will choose to die, rather than take that pill! Problem solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    Just tell me - how are you going to swallow that BIG pill with NO water????????

    Or, is the pill really a suppository? If so, one of those males will choose to die, rather than take that pill! Problem solved.
    Nobody said the pill was big or that the pill was scientifically possible. In this scenario, the pill sustains life for 30 days, how it does so is not significant to your answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Would fairness out weigh some surviving?
    That wasnt my answer BTW. Lol. Just responding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    It's not a troll post. It's just an exercise of your thought process. Sometimes theoretical scenarios are better at getting your true feelings, since you have no obligations to a given answer.
    Sort of. My answer to this might be different, even changing the smallest variable.

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