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    Default KBB Sinfix Edition (Enter at own risk) Auto appraisal

    So, i make a habit of browsing the for sale ads here and i often come across a good number of cars that are priced insanely over what theyre actually worth. Usually theyre 240s. While i can honestly say that i am not that studied on the science of the drift tax, i can offer you a reasonable value for your car so that you can avoid embarrassing yourself with your for sale ad. While i would usually post inside the sale ad in question, i was politely asked to stop doing this. Most of the 240sx listed on this site have 8k+ price tags and a month or so after listing them at this obnoxious price, they start bumping their ad around $4k-4500. Let me save you this trouble and set you on an accurate ballpark figure from the start.

    I assure you i will give you my honest value assessment of your vehicle or decline if i feel my experience is not adequate in pricing your specific vehicle. You will receive a detailed description of how i came to my assessment along with any other documentation available to support your price quote.

    To give you an idea of how this works..... i will offer a sample appraisal of a misc vehicle. Feel free to post any vehicle you're thinking about buying or selling.

    My intention is not to be insulting, only to be brutally honest and observant

    Here we have a 91 240sx. Vehicle has an above avg mods list done to it's sr20 engine. While the body is straight by standards and expectations of a 91 240sx, the car has ripples in the front and back fenders from rolling/scrubbing. It is missing the passenger side skirt which reveals that the body panels is crushed in. There is white overspray on a number of areas reflecting that the car has some amateur paint touch up. The rear panel is black and doesnt match. The rear bumper is covered with smoke. The cheap electric fan is held on by zipties and the intercooler piping is wrapped in reflective tape. The overall appearance of this vehicle gives me the impression that it is not owned and maintained by a responsible driver and it has likely been abused and/or neglected.

    Engine - Has a solid mods list, but many areas of it give reason to be cautious. Grade - 7/10
    Body - The body is somewhat straight with fair paint quality. Pignose is common and doesnt increase value - 6/10
    Interior - a bit rough and over customized to the owners personal taste, but not beyond the realm of expectation - 5/10
    Wheels/tires - Wheels are in great condition but theyre cheap and personalized to the owner's taste. 7/10

    Overall - This is an above avg conditioned vehicle for this year and model. While i hesitate to put faith in the mechanical stability of this car, you should be the judge of that when you drive it. The main value increase for this vehicle is it's performance mods.

    Price assessment - Low range $4500 High range $6000








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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    So, i make a habit of browsing the for sale ads here and i often come across a good number of cars that are priced insanely over what theyre actually worth. Usually theyre 240s. While i can honestly say that i am not that studied on the science of the drift tax, i can offer you a reasonable value for your car so that you can avoid embarrassing yourself with your for sale ad. While i would usually post inside the sale ad in question, i was politely asked to stop doing this. Most of the 240sx listed on this site have 8k+ price tags and a month or so after listing them at this obnoxious price, they start bumping their ad around $4k-4500. Let me save you this trouble and set you on an accurate ballpark figure from the start.

    I assure you i will give you my honest value assessment of your vehicle or decline if i feel my experience is not adequate in pricing your specific vehicle. You will receive a detailed description of how i came to my assessment along with any other documentation available to support your price quote.

    To give you an idea of how this works..... i will offer a sample appraisal of a misc vehicle. Feel free to post any vehicle you're thinking about buying or selling.

    My intention is not to be insulting, only to be brutally honest and observant

    Here we have a 91 240sx. Vehicle has an above avg mods list done to it's sr20 engine. While the body is straight by standards and expectations of a 91 240sx, the car has ripples in the front and back fenders from rolling/scrubbing. It is missing the passenger side skirt which reveals that the body panels is crushed in. There is white overspray on a number of areas reflecting that the car has some amateur paint touch up. The rear panel is black and doesnt match. The rear bumper is covered with smoke. The cheap electric fan is held on by zipties and the intercooler piping is wrapped in reflective tape. The overall appearance of this vehicle gives me the impression that it is not owned and maintained by a responsible driver and it has likely been abused and/or neglected.

    Engine - Has a solid mods list, but many areas of it give reason to be cautious. Grade - 7/10
    Body - The body is somewhat straight with fair paint quality. Pignose is common and doesnt increase value - 6/10
    Interior - a bit rough and over customized to the owners personal taste, but not beyond the realm of expectation - 5/10
    Wheels/tires - Wheels are in great condition but theyre cheap and personalized to the owner's taste. 7/10

    Overall - This is an above avg conditioned vehicle for this year and model. While i hesitate to put faith in the mechanical stability of this car, you should be the judge of that when you drive it. The main value increase for this vehicle is it's performance mods.

    Price assessment - Low range $4500 High range $6000








    If E36 is offended by this example, i will replace it. thank you.
    Could he add more zipties?
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    I will add one... Much with your disclaimer that I have no idea what the current JDM/drift tax is. But $2800 for a beat RHD shell seems steep to me.

    Hey guys I regret it but im ready to sell my baby and move on to something else. I have a complete minus motor and transmission 1995 Nissan Silvia JDM RHD rolling chassis. There are some electronics in the pictures they have already been sold. The car still has complete interior with digital climate control. Comes with stock suspension, it is 5 lug, and has Z Brakes. It does need some body work, the pictures make it look worse than it is. It does not come with the carbon hood, and the wheels will be stock s14 SE wheels. I want to keep this interesting so i am open to offers. I am interested in a Ruckus, motorcyle, old jap cars, guns, and other vehicles. Just lmk know what you have. It is registered in GA, and will come with a GA title. What you do with it is your business. I will take $2800 cash, or if we work out a trade it needs to be worth it, especially on my end. The best way to contact me is text, or email. Hit me up at 404 766 8668 thanks.







    Here's a car that will include nothing that might actually have any value. Any trade MUST benefit him on his end. #YOLO

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    lol Sinflix is nicer than me, the car in the first post would be worth 2k at most to me. I'd have to spend more money fixing how crappy the owners of the car has made it instead of making it nicer or better. lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    I will add one... Much with your disclaimer that I have no idea what the current JDM/drift tax is. But $2800 for a beat RHD shell seems steep to me.



    Here's a car that will include nothing that might actually have any value. Any trade MUST benefit him on his end. #YOLO
    I offered him $1500. my body guy can fix the quarter panel.

    f22c s14? waaa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowAP2 View Post
    I offered him $1500. my body guy can fix the quarter panel.
    The "my body guy can fix the quarter panel" usually means you can bondo it enough so that you and your hardparker friends dont care and can pat each other on the back about how awesome your stance is. Assuming of course it makes it to the parking lot, and you know , you dont slam it into a guard rail.

    A true and proper 1/4 panel fix costs more than $1000.
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    lol the pictures make it worse than it already is. pictures cause 1000 dollars worth of damage. I wouldn't pay 2800 for that 240 even if it had a sr20.
    Then again i wouldn't drive any 240 because 9 out of 10 of them are like this.

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    I wanna see more
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    The "my body guy can fix the quarter panel" usually means you can bondo it enough so that you and your hardparker friends dont care and can pat each other on the back about how awesome your stance is. Assuming of course it makes it to the parking lot, and you know , you dont slam it into a guard rail.

    A true and proper 1/4 panel fix costs more than $1000.
    I agree.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RsonGt3's View Post
    I agree.
    everyone agrees with facts. Hence why they are called facts. xD


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    Quote Originally Posted by SHAUNvX View Post
    I wanna see more
    After some "price drops"... Still asking $6500

    Make: ACURA
    Model: RSX Type-S
    Year: 2002
    Mileage: 138,xxx

    CONTACT: COS 404.987.2598

    VIN#: Will provide if interested. Also have a clean Carfax

    Condition: Interior: 8/10, Exterior 7/10


    PRICE: $6500

    Up for sale is a 2002 Acura Rsx Type-S. The car has the 2.0L 4 cyl motor paired with the 6 speed manual transmission. Car has been properly maintained and services performed at required time intervals. Mileage is 138,XXX. Car is great on mileage and very reliable!
    Car has never been raced or has any major engine modifications (outside of an AEM cold air intake). Adult driven. There are some signs of wear, but the car is in very good condition!

    The Good:

    - New clutch/pressure plate installed. (Less than 1 year old)
    - New Master Cylinder (less than 1 year old)
    - New brakes and rotors on all 4 corners (Replaced early 2012)


    Small issues

    -Small tear in passenger seat
    - Will need tires in the near future
    - SRS light on (due to seat being removed and re-installed - easy fix just needs to be reset)
    - Check engine light for Air/Fuel ratio sensor (Car is drivable)








    Unfortunately for you - There are 2 of the biggest dash warning lights on. Maybe consider clearing those up before you sell? I'm confident a lot more people would be willing to purchase the car then. Otherwise who really knows if the SRS is only on because "the seat was removed" and CEL for "Air/fuel ration sensor."

    Could very well be a lot more complicated - if SRS is so easy I think it would be worth your time fix it.

    Regardless, GLWS, love the RSX! free bump.
    Thanks for the input. I am selling a used car as the title says. Used cars usually have some minor issues.

    Thanks for the bump.
    Kelley Blue Book In "Excellent" condition (3% of vehicles meet this rating according to kbb), it's a $6300 car...

    Being generous with the condition...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    So, i make a habit of browsing the for sale ads here and i often come across a good number of cars that are priced insanely over what theyre actually worth. Usually theyre 240s. While i can honestly say that i am not that studied on the science of the drift tax, i can offer you a reasonable value for your car so that you can avoid embarrassing yourself with your for sale ad. While i would usually post inside the sale ad in question, i was politely asked to stop doing this. Most of the 240sx listed on this site have 8k+ price tags and a month or so after listing them at this obnoxious price, they start bumping their ad around $4k-4500. Let me save you this trouble and set you on an accurate ballpark figure from the start.

    I assure you i will give you my honest value assessment of your vehicle or decline if i feel my experience is not adequate in pricing your specific vehicle. You will receive a detailed description of how i came to my assessment along with any other documentation available to support your price quote.

    To give you an idea of how this works..... i will offer a sample appraisal of a misc vehicle. Feel free to post any vehicle you're thinking about buying or selling.

    My intention is not to be insulting, only to be brutally honest and observant

    Here we have a 91 240sx. Vehicle has an above avg mods list done to it's sr20 engine. While the body is straight by standards and expectations of a 91 240sx, the car has ripples in the front and back fenders from rolling/scrubbing. It is missing the passenger side skirt which reveals that the body panels is crushed in. There is white overspray on a number of areas reflecting that the car has some amateur paint touch up. The rear panel is black and doesnt match. The rear bumper is covered with smoke. The cheap electric fan is held on by zipties and the intercooler piping is wrapped in reflective tape. The overall appearance of this vehicle gives me the impression that it is not owned and maintained by a responsible driver and it has likely been abused and/or neglected.

    Engine - Has a solid mods list, but many areas of it give reason to be cautious. Grade - 7/10
    Body - The body is somewhat straight with fair paint quality. Pignose is common and doesnt increase value - 6/10
    Interior - a bit rough and over customized to the owners personal taste, but not beyond the realm of expectation - 5/10
    Wheels/tires - Wheels are in great condition but theyre cheap and personalized to the owner's taste. 7/10

    Overall - This is an above avg conditioned vehicle for this year and model. While i hesitate to put faith in the mechanical stability of this car, you should be the judge of that when you drive it. The main value increase for this vehicle is it's performance mods.

    Price assessment - Low range $4500 High range $6000








    If E36 is offended by this example, i will replace it. thank you.
    Seems to be fair if you're OCD. I've fixed a lot of what you have mentioned as well as put a lot into the car since my last post.

    Tein inner and outers new, rack adapters with spacers, Isis tension rods, modded knuckles, rack cooler, electric fan is now rocking actual radiator fan zipties. There are no ripples as the fenders have been pulled and rolled correctly with zero scrubbing the paint however did crack. No longer has those rims. I bought 6 squares from enjuku.. The paint is something I don't mind as I will re paint it but over all it's clean with a small over spray nothing black paint can't fix. The interior is very clean yes it does have duct tape on the center price but that cost 10 dollars to replace. Nothing else is wrong with the interior beside the 2 cracks. The under carriage damage is something I can't fix hence the side skirts. The reflective tape helps with cooling you would know this if you actually moddified a car. Yes it's ugly but helps keep the inter cooling piping temp down thus making the air cooler.

    I would part this car before I would sell it for 4.5k I wasn't expecting to sell this car more so trade it. As far as its reliability goes I did a compression check. 155 psi across all cylinders on a cold motor so add about 10 psi for a warm motor giving it be pretty much perfect. If anyone questions the ability of this car be sure to be at the Yolo event to see it in action.


    It's not longer for sale or trade in keeping it. Thank you for assessment on my car sin fix.
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    post a pic wth the squares!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    post a pic wth the squares!!
    I will when they arrive just ordered them last night as I sold my other rims. Now I'm rocking se's lol looks so stupid since the fenders are pulled but oh well.

    Here is a pic of the angle after modded knuckles giving its not at full lock still have other stuff to install before the event
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    yea that RSX is probably never gonna sell. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by E36slide View Post
    It's not longer for sale or trade in keeping it. Thank you for assessment on my car sin fix.
    Cool.



    FYI: I deleted your For sale thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    Cool.



    FYI: I deleted your For sale thread.
    Thank you sir. Can you please for the love of god change my picture ? I'm tired of seeing my mug shot and how good I use to look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by E36slide View Post
    Thank you sir. Can you please for the love of god change my picture ? I'm tired of seeing my mug shot and how good I use to look.
    For you... Yea, why not.

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    I came in here for the car values. That's what I want to see.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    That little white sticker on the windshield...... is from a road course event.
    Recent? Where at?

    Just curious not saying you didn't or anything.

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    anyways, the topic of this thread is not to belittle e36, even though its such an easy thing to do.... we have many other threads for that.

    If you have a car thats unique and you want to "test the water" with someone who will be completely honest with you.... post your car up here.

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    oh shit...... get nostalgic up in the mother now.


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    In for the original purpose of this thread. Some serious entertainment is in store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westernlude View Post
    In for the original purpose of this thread. Some serious entertainment is in store.
    He no longer can post I put him in time out
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    Boooooo. IMPEACH!!

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    THIS JUST IN:



















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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    THIS JUST IN:



















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    Awesome
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    E36 Why are you so worried about sinfix, I want the REAL reason. If its because he bashes your car who gives a shit, I have had people tell me my car is ugly, I said cool thats your opinion, And i dont care what you say, It looks good.
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    God damn. Nothing either of you two, completely brain dead, stupid son of bitches said was worth typing a response to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHAUNvX View Post
    E36 Why are you so worried about sinfix, I want the REAL reason. If its because he bashes your car who gives a shit, I have had people tell me my car is ugly, I said cool thats your opinion, And i dont care what you say, It looks good.
    I honestly dont feel i have bashed his car. I gave an accurate depiction of his vehicle's condition. I guess the truth hurts more. He gets mad when you point out obvious flaws in his cars but he openly insults some of the nicest most well built cars on this forum.

    E36 is your typical egomaniac kid. When he drove a miata he argued with this guy.... because this miata was better than his in every way imaginable.


    Now that he has a 240sx, he argues with me..... because....



    There's nothing more volatile than a delusional egomaniac. In his mind he thinks he's so amazing and it turns his little pretend world upside down when someone directs him back to reality.

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    Im sorry if you own a Miata and you try to hate on that grey Miata, You just need to stop, And pay respects to a amazing car. Nice 240 sinfix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHAUNvX View Post
    A lot of people seem to think so, I mean i had a guy contact me for a feature on my car. Did you?

    I get countless people telling me they like my car at car shows. Do you? Know your facts next time buddy.
    I would really like to see a picture of so said integra. Lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Delusional.
    Am I or are you ? You have yet to prove me wrong. I proved I part my car for 8k easy making your 4500 assessment under priced. 6k was more then fair.
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    I was suprised when i got asked to do a feature, Because in my eyes its not ready. I have had it for 3 1/2 years and it has come a long way from just a shell.





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    I know my grill fitment is shit, I cant get it to fit right.
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    And sinfix if you want to appraise my car go ahead, Its not for sale so i dont care lol
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    clean teg shaun. I like!

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