Then $2 for the meet last night seems like a good value.
Then $2 for the meet last night seems like a good value.
Someone here said something about my car. Just want to correct couple of facts. I did buy the car modded, but not as it sits. Bottom end, heads, transmission, turbo kit suspension, brakes, engine management, etc have all been upgraded by me. I don't know how folks manage to take talks from one topic to something totally unrelated. See y'all around. Thanks
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I love it.. I had beef with Sunny before and careless about what he does..However, wont hate him for making fools pay up.. Kudos for that.. For all you saying he's not making much.. Smell the coffee please.. Sunny is a business guy.. Even at $2 a car.. I bet the less he will make is $200 to 250 every Thursday, not bad for a couple of hours of work. Meets cost $$.. Either Sunny pays for it, or someone else does... Lose $$ today, but you will make it right back if you plan and act strategically.. Kudos for Sunny.. This reminds me when $1 porn started.. Made billions... Easy stradegy
Exactly what I have argued. Sunny does not put out his own money, its bullshit when he says it or too even think it. He is making his money back in one way or another and then some.
I am so glad you said this. Frankly, I don't care if he charged $20 for this meet, since I don't go anyway. I don't even necessarily care that his intention is to make money... He is entitled, considering the "wrench" time he probably put into the meet.
My biggest issue is false representation. When people call him out he plays Jesus Christ of the import scene. "No guys, I am sacrificing myself for the better of the import scene. It's not at all about turning a profit, I just truly want you all to have a place to hang out". Bull-shit. If you buy that for a second, I have a bridge to sell you. In the end, false representation is also why I called out the Gwinnett meet before it was paid, since he swore up and down that it wasn't ricey just like any other meet. Weeks later, he essentially says "it's now paid because it was ricey just like any other meet and I am trying to keep those folks out". Then of course the "exclusive" dawn runs.
Just to put it on public record, I sent this to someone in a PM:
Gotta cover increasing expenses... You knowHow much you want to bet that $2 is just a "testing the waters" type deal? Once people get comfortable with that, it bumps up to like $5-$10.
I send you this because i just want to be able to say "holy shit i called it" if/when that happens.
I say let the guy do what he does. Don't like it? Simple... Don't show up. If you are all complaining about him making a couple hundreds if anything, so be it. He is the one wasting his time setting something up that is worth going to for you guys. Instead of complaining about the $2... Why don't some of you hire police, have a dj, clean up, organize and take the responsibility for free? I bet none will do it. Whether he is making some money or not, he is doing something that none of you are doing while only charging you $2...
Lol @ people mad at this. 1st world problems. $2 to go to a car meet, yolo, may as well. New low offets, gotta show off the swag.
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Been there done that.. Made quite a few meetings where I made 0.. Zilch.... Nada.. However, had events where we made $$.. Most of our events we didnt make shit...just saying
1) I doubt sunny is making money, and even if he is, what is wrong with making money? Personally, I like to have as much of that stuff as possible. In fact, if I found a pile of it I'd keep it for myself.
2) You guys are blowing this out of proportion. It's hanging out in a parking lot, I mean, come on. You're getting this upset about the issue of hanging out in a parking lot? I wonder what you'll all do when you're confronted with a REAL problem.
3) Don't like this meet? Go and make one better, if you can, without charging. If you can't then STFU. That's really all there is to it. If you can't put together a better event then just stfu.
People think they have all the right answers, that they know everything and can do everything better themselves.
It's like I had a customer come in my store the other day acting like he knew everything. My boss next to me tells him this: "well since you know more than me why don't you come on this side of the counter(employees only), I'll stand where you are(customer side of the counter), and you can tell me how to do my job!?"
I just don't see paying $2 to stand in a parking lot like much of a deal. Lol. I'll can meet with my friends where I want for free, so I'll do that.
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Then do that and shut the fuck up.
Agreed. Is just seems like a lot of people complaining just don't like him.
I respect him a lot for putting it together.
EXACTLY!!!! Paying to hang out in a parking lot. I wouldn't do it, but I'm not going to knock anyone that does. It's their money.
I like the guy, myself. Just don't really care for his "business" ventures for the reasons I already mentioned.
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Question of curiosity, what happens if you decide not to pay this entry fee?
No problem with him.
I don't think there has been a single cogent argument/counter argument in this whole thread. It seems to be a bunch of people assuming the OP is has an issue with paying $2, which isn't the issue at all.
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Agreed. 99% of the counter arguments are "if you cant afford $2 or don't like it... dont go". But thats not at all the point of the callout.
He still hasnt answered my question that if I show up next thursday I can spend $20 and buy 10 parking spots so that I can park my pretty much stock Silverado side ways. I hate door dings.
You can park across the street at the mall at your own risk of vehicle being towed. $2 per car will provide you a parking spot inside the meet.
2 parking spots per vehicle max can be paid for. I am sorry $20 won't buy you 10 spots. I have to accommodate as many car as I can comfortably in the parking lot. I rather put 10 cars in those spots for $20 than 1 car. Thanks
who is collecting the $2 fee? that still has not been answered.
Is SUNNY deciding that or Wild Bills?
Not hating at all because i will NEVER go , but just curious which business entity is collecting the $$
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I'll make sure to tell the manager of Wild Bills that you told me to park across the street when i go inside or is regular business closed to accommodate this meet?, but to make my question more direct.....
under what authority will people be told where they can and cannot park?
Decided by Wild Bills, and collected by me to pay for Parking lot, rented from Wild Bills, cops hired from Gwinnett PD, and other expenses to clean the lot, buying more trash cans, and other things needed for the meet. Like it has been said over & over, but it's never about the $2.
So no one will have a problem if Wild Bills starts collecting this $2 & runs the meet the way they want it to?
I like how most of the people are asking "who's making money?", but not "who's picking up the expenses?"...SMH.
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then people get to decide whether they value your service or not. Obviously sounds like you are providing something most places (like the V) do not.
Surely if you had some random guy come up to you and ask you for $2 you would ask the same questions right?
Expenses should be minimal, as WIld Bills would clean the lot whether you were there or not. Right? Police are $20-30 an hour off duty or on duty, i doubt you cover enough to pay for them from the $2 fee, thats prob out of wild bills pocket correct?
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You can not park at any private or business property if you aren't a customer. Wild Bills front lot is open to their customer on their regular business days & hours. Since the back lot is for the meet, regular customer are directed to front parking lot as asked by Wild Bills & Management. They & Gwinnett Meet requests that if you will be coming inside Wild Bills on Thursday Nights, please park your vehicles upfront because back lot is closed after the meet & isn't monitored. If you will be parking inside the Meet lot between the hours of 8pm-12am then there is a $2 Charge. If not in the back, as a paying customer of Wild Bills you are more than Welcome to park up front as I said earlier.
Hope that answered the question.
Last edited by UpSideDownDesi; 09-16-2012 at 04:32 PM.
Wait so your saying because we are there, WB is charging us to cover expenses that already exist?
Do other people who are actually coming in to WB getting charged to?
If your "renting out the parking lot" are you paying for the expenses or is it WB?
Sorry, I will correct it with, "Most of the people"
I am paying for the expenses.
Exactly, I can't force people to pay. I let them decide if they would like to a bit more organized and secure meet for $2. Plus benefit of going inside Wild Bills for Free as a perk of the Meet.
Wild Bills gives us a clean parking lot, and expects it in same condition next day. All the other expenses are out of my pocket including cops (Gwinnett PD is more than than $20-$30 per). As a example: Just like how you rent a empty house and have to vacate it same condition.
Sounds totally plausible. Again, was never doubting anything, just clarification may help sell yourself better. Im biased like i said because im not into meets, but if you are offering a service, then people decide if it is worth it or not. Sounds like it is, and sanctioned by the host venue
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You should stay at home, as you still don't get it.
Look at the lot before and after a meet - kids leave trash all over the place. That doesn't happen on other nights, just after the meet - hence, additional effort is needed to clean up the lot, which means someone has to do it. That someone has to be paid, unless you are going to volunteer your services for free.
WB does not have police coverage in the back lot the other nights, so additional costs. This isn;t somethign that WB is already paying for - it's additional cost caused by having a meet there.
"Other people" park in the front, go inside immediately, and spend on drinks. More than half of the people in the lot of the meet tend to bring their own drink, leave their trash on the ground, and go home without spending a cent inside. WB is a business, people should be grateful that they even allow people to meet there, as most businesses say no.
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But your selling parking spots at $2 per. So, lets say next Thursday i show up and pay for myself and 9 other friends. I am entitled to 10 spots. Then what happens if those 9 do not show up? I can either park my truck side ways or you will leave 9 spots vacant, as they belong to be until 12am.
That's what I said I would do, boss. Turning 16 in 3 weeks huh? Lol.
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Personally, a $2 fee per spot is a small price to pay to go to a meet that will be much more organized, cleaner, and safer. The Varsity meet is a prime example of what can happen down the road...when it started as a VW/Audi meet years ago to the point of being closed due to problems. People that do enjoy going to these meets should be thankful that Wild Bill's allows the parking lot to be used. Since the previous two Thursdays meets started having issues, then some dynamics need to be changed to prevent future issues. If it continued then Wild Bill would not allow the meet to continue just like the V and BP meets. So if you don't like meets, don't go or comment on how a meet is being organized. If you can't afford $2 per week, then you have more things you should be focusing on then a meet. Plus, when I hired Gwinnett PD in the past, it was $45/hour per officer...so that adds up quickly when you have multiple officers.
On the flip side, we will be selling HID products at every meet at discounted prices. Need anything audio, video, alarms, tv brackets, etc we can bring it too and sell it at a discounted price. In addition, we are doing a weekly drawing for free and discounted products. All you need to do is put your name on the list at the DropGearz tent with David. The winner gets to choose his prize from several options...most of them being free. So you can pay $2 per spot, come buy discounted products and possibly when free products.
Why is Gwinnett so expensive for cops ? Dekalb is not that high.. Crazy.
DeKalb is $35/hr per officer if you are renting a DeKalb County facility, like the pool. Private event locations may have higher rates.
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It is crazy considering they do not make that much hourly on the clock.
Thats incorrect.. I know for a fact... Thats why it shocks me when I hear prices thrown around the net. I know people like to exagerate at times.
