ALL IN FAVOR OF LOCKING SAY AYE!!!
I don't know sunny on his personal level, but I've met him several times before and kicked back at some good old riverside meets (before rednecks ruined that meet). I know sunny is ALWAYS after that dollar, he is out there hustling, over the net... no matter the place he will try to sell something or offer a service to earn some money, and to that, I tip my hat to that man for earning money any way possible, and I have yet to see or hear anyone complain about him selling something rotten, or steal. It's people like sunny that this world needs more of, people who get off their butt and hustle, and on top of that he does it the legit way. So why hate, or make a topic about this man to try and diss him? Because you're some old fart that has nothing better to do? Go spend some time with your family or something.
Edit:
After reading the thread, I see what people are angry about.
Let me break this down, please correct me if I'm incorrect.
Sunny, the guy who is always out to start meets after the last one gets shot, is providing these services for just two dollars:
1. Police Patrol/Control
2. Parking Lot for roughly 300 cars? (Sorry, I've never been at this meet, my priorities have changed)
3. A club, right in front of you, which is free of entrance? (correct me if I'm wrong)
4. He is responsible for providing a cleaning crew/man/women after everyone leaves. (correct me if I'm wrong)
5. And all this on his personal time.
6. He makes few bucks, by providing such a great service for only, what... 2 bucks?
Man Sunny, I wish that you've had this bright idea back in the good old days for riverside meets. I would have payed you double for half of those services.
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Hmm.. ran across this while looking at some cars for sale...Anyone else realize that theres 3 ads for the same EXACT car, different price, different amount of miles... who is the seller? lol
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1. Civic with 129k miles for $3899, still available for sale.
2. Civic with 196k Miles for $2999, sold.
3 Civic listed for $6500 isn't mine, person copied my pictures. Check the phone number on adds or better call them.
4. The Civics is own are identical in Year & color, but one is lowered, and one isn't. Look closely.
I am the seller for both $2999 and $3899. Hope that cleared your confusion Nermin.
the one for $3899 w/ 129k matches the one for $2999 w/ 190k ... same exact interior pics , same rip in the seat with the same shift knob .... why/how is that? same numbers.. different price.. different mileage. SAME CAR.
idc honestly. just shady as hell. I even thought about buying a car from you man
Threadjack: Holy hell who thinks their 160k mile Civic is worth $7k?
(I know its not you Sunny)
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Here's the one for $6500, now dropped to $5500 by the owner.
Link: 1999 Honda Civic Almost new, great MPG
Nermin I will give you the car for FREE if you can validate that. You are comparing interior picture why are you failing to compare the exterior? They both have same interior color so yea I used same pictures because I do own the both cars, and people who came to view the vehicles saw both side by side.
129k One still for sale with perfect interior, and no rips.
Here Feel special now, and prove "SAME CAR": I man up for my business, and correct people when needed. Know your facts before you call me Shady.
Two VERY identical cars for sale, same seller, same pictures, different miles, different price. seems shady.
however you did prove yourself.
I know you flip cars as well privately by trading them without a dealer license. When you do them at retail prospective, you might understand how it pays off to have Identical cars available for sale at difference price level, it's not shady. It's a promising sale because if buyer lowball on higher price car, you introduce the higher mileage lower priced car that fits his/her budget. End of the day you will sell one of them. Why do you think I have so many civics available right now & two identical Lexus RX300's & Two almost Identical RSX, and few other same Make/Model/Option cars?
Thanks I had to because no Shady business here.
Who cares about that, no need to address that character attack.
To be honest...When your name is only tied to paid meets it certainly brings into question if there is a "legitimate" need for a fee. You must understand why your motives are suspect, right?
If you are simply a club promoter working in the car scene, say so, I'm sure there's room for that (just don't make yourself out as Mother Theresa when you aren't). If you want to carve out a niche for more interesting/better car shows that are paid, that's fine, I'm all for you making money. The issue herein is that you are providing something we've gotten for free for years but attaching a price to it and as a consumer I see ZERO value added; as such, I'm extremely reluctant to support you. Will some people embrace $2 meets without seeing anything extra? Sure, as evidenced by this thread there are tons of people that will say "It's only $2 you cheap shits" and completely gloss over principle, which is something I believe you counted on. Additionally, Dawn runs you charge $35, which I emailed you asking what the entry fee is fore you never responded. A group of Lotus/Ferrari/etc. guys I know goes on such runs monthly and never once has the organizer requested a fee, so once again where is the value added?
If everyone wants to continue to say let him make money, that's fine, you can give him your money. I'm just saying when the kid is throwing events people have been putting on for ages and providing no unique services, why do you want to pay him for it? Because it's only $2?
As soon as I see value added I'm all over paying for a car meet, I have zero problem with you/that concept but until that point you just come off as a shyster.
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I see what you are saying Klye and will be more than happy to do my best to explain.
No I am not a Club Promoter, and hate being one or doing so. I have been there, done that, and moved on. Reason, I tell people to go in Wild Bills is out of respect that they are hosting the meet, and I will try to get people in. Any club would ask me to try to bring people in if about 2000 are showing up on their door steps on a night they are open on. I do not take anything from them for the people I bring in. I do this as a perk to meet attendees as well, if they choose to go in, which is free. I am providing something that I myself provided free for years for the same meet so I see where people can go, "why the charge now, when it was free for years?". This meet has been shut down at numerous locations before and moved over & over, and now again it was at the verge of shutdown 2 weeks ago unless a change happens. Now for added value of $2 we bought more stuff like trash cans, parking cones, hired police officers, cleaning the lot after the meet, and over all a very laid back meet compared to what it has been for Free for past years. For Free it was a meet where at times fights broke out, acts of immaturity where displayed. The principal people speak of was sleeping within them since no one ever lent a helping had to either clean up, stop a fight or tell people to stop doing burn out, which was destroying the meet, but now when there is a $2 charge. Everyone is throwing Principle at me. Can you name a one monthly or weekly import meet in past few years that stayed incident free continuously? Now for $2 this will continuously stay drama free, where people attending will have same place to return to next week, and not worry about being kicked out, moving out of a way of a speeding car or be worried if a brawl or is about to happen or not. People can choose to go to a parking lot for free, and keep on getting kicked out like they have been for ages or come to a Meet which is permitted by host & secured by local enforcement that includes activities, vendors, free giveaways, and more at times. A prime example of more activities at the meet is our next NOPI Kick off Meet. Link below.
The Dawn Run has a cost of $35 which goes toward the time & money I spend on the event as in hard cost of resources from insurance to cost of gas lapping the route twice so next day drivers have most up to date info on road conditions (pot holes, metal plates on road, construction zone) & best route possible and down to cost of material used, including snacks for all that morning. Did try a run without any of the above or pre-planning, was a complete disaster with people getting lost to hours of waiting. So for $35 if I can cover my cost then I will. If I come up few bucks extra, then maybe I earned it.
GPD is hired by wildbills. I used to work at sta 5 and responded to calls at WB all the time. Theeres at least a minimum of 3 cops in there and it will get more if we have an assault call or some sort. I wouldnt blame them sice its the ghetto hill.
GPD has been hired by wb as long as i work there...4 +years.
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I don't see the point here, if Sunny can make money off of meets, why do people care? If he's using the money to help the meet whether it be safety or to provide a better meet, even better. If you don't like it, don't go, clearly he's doing something right though and has for quite some time. If you all don't like his events, don't go.
I don't go to meets anymore aside from our small Athens meets but I would never have an issue paying someone $2.00 (TWO DOLLARS!) for a meet at a venue like this, I haven't been, but have heard good things about it, and from his replies here I see nothing wrong with any of it.
I use to pay to park back when I went to Varsity meets...what's the difference?
you know im starting to wonder if people just dont have comprehension skills anymore.................
ITS NOT ABOUT THE $2, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH $2, PEOPLE WOULD PROBABLY PAY MORE.
The issue was ARE YOU PAYING $2 for something that is already provided , to someone you dont even know. So some random guy (sunny) who throws a "meet" just decided to start magically charging $2 a car and you guys are like "OMG BEST VALUE EVER". All people were asking was
WHY AM I PAYING $2
WHO AM I PAYING THE MONEY TO
WHO IS COLLECTING IT
WHAT DO I GET FOR MY MONEY
Sunny has answered all those questions, but people have a right to ask what they are paying for.
Quit being sheep, jesus. So youre telling me if you parked at the same lot every week and then one week a guy walks up to you and starts asking you to pay $2 you would just fork it over? you wouldnt ask any questions??
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Let me give some of ou some history and insight on meets in Atlanta. I have being going to meets since back in the '80's when we had the KMart meets at the one on Canton Hwy (long before the ones at the Big Chicken) - I'm talking about all the way back in the mini-truck era. I have watched all of the meets come and go, the KMart Big Chicken, Dilly-Dallys, etc, for about 25 years. They all were free, and they all ended due to immaturity.
Ask yourself - do you want to continue to try to do the same failed process over and over again, or do you want to try to have a meet that lasts?
I find it interesting that the people that keep being upset about $2 are the one who admit that they don't go in the first place, and had no plans to go. I don't see anyone post that they have gone every week, but now won't because of the $2.
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You forgot about the Syms meets...
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02' Miata
DING DING DING!!!!! Then you see that on dozens upon dozens of car forums for years that he has done nothing but shakedowns and informercial type hype. Personally, money is not an issue. I went to the meet twice just for shits and giggles (on my way home from the office). As for safety, I am a competitive handgun and sniper shooter, usually carrying 2-3 weapons. No cop is going to be able to stop a violation of my safety, faster than I can.
I simply get tired of seeing the hundreds of bullshit posts of bullshit cruises, on every automotive forum in the area.
Hey guys I'm gonna start charging $2 per post in this thread. I have to cover my expenses.
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I don't think I'll be going to WBs anytime soon. It's not the amount that bothers me, it's the principal. I don't feel the need to pay for a "meet". A show is one thing because the venue space is usually rented and there are other costs for a "show". But the point of a meet is to be able to show up, park and hang out. The point where a tax is enforced is where the ability to freely meet ends. Just as everyone with forethought and common sense, I get irritated with the retards, morons, shitheads, kids, dipshits, and fucksticks that ruin meets with burnouts, racing, littering, fights, blasting radios and everything else that disrupts the ebb and flow of just hanging out. It would be nice to simply eject those who cause the disturbance...and for people to have balls to back up such decisions. But since most "meets" are on property in which the owner is not present or enforcing this, no one can truely enforce such policies. I'd be all about a meet where this was the norm, but I just don't see that happening anywhere because you will always get the disrespecful dipshits who know they can't be forced to follow simple guidelines. I also don't care for the "vendor" shit that is popping up at such meets (C&O being one). I'm going to a meet to hang out, I'm not going to a convention. I can't really put my finger on it, but it urks me to sell/have vendor space at what is supposed to just be a meet. For example, I know in the park up the street from me, a bunch of people meet every morning to train/run/workout....wouldn't it be funny if I show up peddling wears to them when they are just there to share a time of freely doing what their common interest consists of? These people go to organized events I'm sure, and at those events, there are vendors selling products that are beneficial to them...at organized events. WBs surely did not start off as an event, it started as a meet and should stay a meet.
But just as the cycle marches on, the WBs thing will die off and people will start congregating somewhere else. There is no stopping that cycle. I feel the main reason The V went on so long is becuase it was a tradition (of sorts) among many other groups for decades. Other groups who were much more respectful of the V and its property.
02' Miata
At any of the $2 meets at wild bills i will be offering to spray plastidip on people's wheels for $199.
Sounds like a fantastic bargain to me!!!! for the price of $201, you can gain access to an exclusive meet and leave out with your wheels looking fresh and new! Call in the next 5 minutes and you'll also receive a slightly used box of Topps baseball cards!!!! just pay handling charge! wow what a deal!
I know you are a vendor there, but in the end, it's a meet and I can't say I personally agree with the vendor situation there. C&O is about as much of a mess as this thread and needs serious organization. I go to meets to hang out freely...not to have advertising and flyers dropped in my car. I know that is how it used to be and how it started.
SYMS was long before PnR and is something David will know (hell, David and I are about the only ones around here that would know the SYMS meets)....and before PnR was ToysRUs and UAB....and NOPI Snellville...
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