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How can one separate sexual orientation from sexual attraction? Sexual attraction in fact describes sexual orientation.
I was thinking something else. You discover yourself (by either choice OR genetics) when you discover who you are attracted to. How about this for an argument for the genetics side of the coin? A guy grows up with a Mom and a Dad in a traditional home. He's not subjected to any of lifestyle but the one he grows up in and even dates females through high school. Then all of a sudden he turns up at home telling his family he is gay. He has always felt that way but didn't understand it. Even while going out with girls, he felt uncomfortable or out of place. This, to me, seems like it could be a choice he made due to a genetic cause. He tried to fight it and it won. Not saying this is any proof, but yet another theory that could point towards a DNA link.

Quote Originally Posted by geoff View Post
True it does not disprove the "gay gene". Rather, it provides evidence that suggests sexual orientation is a choice.
My example above shows that it does not provide any evidence towards choice.

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The whole purpose of this debate was to say that one can not claim that sexual orientation is genetic any more than one can claim it is pure choice.
Exactly! We agree.

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How then can one support the notion of a "gay gene" and simply dismiss all the arguments and research that says the opposite? How does one take one researchers word as true and dismiss another's as false? What qualifies one over the other?
Again, I agree with you. You've got researches that support both sides. How is one supposed to know which side is right? You know?

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Do you understand now the argument I am making?
Honestly? No, lolol.

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What if it is proven by FACTS that sexual orientation is pure CHOICE? How would that effect this "progressive" gay movement?
For me, it would produce nothing different. I still wouldn't care. If gay people want to be gay, then that's fine. If they want to get married, let them. Doesn't ruin my life. Later, QD.