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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    They call it Kiddushin and Nisuin and follow their own set of religious guidelines. I would welcome gay people to do the same. Create their own tradition vs interfering with the existing tradition. There's about 4 million gay people in america. About 80% of americans are christians. I dont think it's fair to allow those 4 million to change a tradition as old as america itself. If it goes to vote in my state and passes, more power to them. I'm just expressing my opinion.
    Im still trying to figure out what your opinion is. What about non religious people, should they be made to participate in a Christian ceremony in order to be recognized as a couple? It seems like you want to keep the religious connotation to it, despite the fact that marriage has been around longer than modern religion. Let's take the religious meaning out of it. Can two atheists get married outside of the church?

    Do you honestly support this cause or are you just sticking with your far left stance? I dont see a benefit of trying to ingrain homosexuality into our society. I accept them, but i dont want to promote them.
    Far left? Really? More than 50% of Americans agree with me. I support societal progression. I guess some would also marijuana legalization is a far left stance too, even though 70% of the country supports it. Theres more benefit from tolerating homosexuality than there is opposing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Im still trying to figure out what your opinion is. What about non religious people, should they be made to participate in a Christian ceremony in order to be recognized as a couple? It seems like you want to keep the religious connotation to it, despite the fact that marriage has been around longer than modern religion. Let's take the religious meaning out of it. Can two atheists get married outside of the church?

    Far left? Really? More than 50% of Americans agree with me. I support societal progression. I guess some would also marijuana legalization is a far left stance too, even though 70% of the country supports it. Theres more benefit from tolerating homosexuality than there is opposing it.
    Even though i do not believe in religion, im not on a quest to rid the world of religion. I want to co-exist with christians. I dont want them to effect my life, i dont want to effect their life. My message to the world would be that people have the right to make a choice and that there is actually a choice to be made. As an atheist, i can chose to participate in christian events or chose not to. Even though i'm an atheist, i can walk into any church i want and sit down and listen to them. I'm welcome to participate in these things as long as i follow the rules. If i walked into a church and started yelling to people that god wasnt real, im sure they would ask me to leave. Marriage is between a man and a woman. It always has been. If gay people do not agree with the rules, then dont participate. Nobody is denying them benefits, nobody is telling them they cant hug, kiss or hold hands in public. They can even adopt and raise children. They can do anything they want to do..... why do they have to change something that a very large group of people hold sacred. There are compromises to be made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Im still trying to figure out what your opinion is. What about non religious people, should they be made to participate in a Christian ceremony in order to be recognized as a couple? It seems like you want to keep the religious connotation to it, despite the fact that marriage has been around longer than modern religion. Let's take the religious meaning out of it. Can two atheists get married outside of the church?

    Far left? Really? More than 50% of Americans agree with me. I support societal progression. I guess some would also marijuana legalization is a far left stance too, even though 70% of the country supports it. Theres more benefit from tolerating homosexuality than there is opposing it.
    Again, no one has to have any ceremony to be married legally. You just don't get it. You have obviously never been married.
    A marriage license is not the same as a marriage ceremony.

    Yes, two atheists can get married outside a church. They simply go to the courthouse, pay for the marriage license, and the judge marries them in the courtroom. It happens every day across the country. Christians do that also all the time. It is non-religious.
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