so I had chick-fil-a this morning

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Oh I forgot, god put humans on the earth to rule over animals.....right.

[geoff]

Yeah I get that. I'm not stupid. But don't sit there and try to tell me that animals are the same as humans. When it comes to cognitive ability, might as well compare us to rocks. Animals are not capable of thought or choice. They act on instinct and impulse.

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Yeah I get that. I'm not stupid. But don't sit there and try to tell me that animals are the same as humans. When it comes to cognitive ability, might as well compare us to rocks. Animals are not capable of thought or choice. They act on instinct and impulse.

This is exactly what I said! Almost word for word! Do you disagree with me for the sake of disagreeing with me? Lol

[geoff]

So how then can you rationalize that humans also have no choice in sexuality/orientation/attraction? We are on a level WAY beyond that of any living species on this planet. I see the connection you're trying to make, it's just a poor one.

[geoff]

Oh I forgot, god put humans on the earth to rule over animals.....right.

Um.....yeah. You call it chance/evolution, i call it purpose/God. That doesn't change the fact that you don't see dog's walking humans or cows eating manburgers. What does this have to do with anything?

[nelson9995]

Lolol. I wasn't really trying. Honest! I was referring to you saying "in my opinion," "this is fact." Lolol. Later, QD.

gotcha... well let me rephrase that... half the things in the bible are proved by science.

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So how then can you rationalize that humans also have no choice in sexuality/orientation/attraction? We are on a level WAY beyond that of any living species on this planet. I see the connection you're trying to make, it's just a poor one.

Stop being simple. You're trying to say its simply a choice. Since humans are one of few species that have the ability for rational thought, it would only be expressed in those species. It's not. Many animals exhibit homosexuality, even those that aren't capable of rational thought.

[geoff]

I stated that it's possible that sexual orientation/attraction are a subconscious decision. You brought up the animals. Animals have no rules, no goals, no rationality. You can not compare their behavior to a humans. Talk about apples and oranges. Animals also eat their own crap and children, females eat their mates, homosexuality, ect...how can you compare that to humans. Sure homosexuality happens in animals, it's an impulse to "bust a nutt". But can one say if that male heyena is attracted to that other male, or is he simply in heat and will screw anything at that point? Do animals have long term same sex relationships that involve "love"?

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I stand corrected. Even some humans aren't capable of rational thought.

[quickdodge®]

QD: at this point in time in the study of sexual orientation and sexual attraction, can anything be ruled out? I'm not trying to "get you to see things my way" or "win this debate". Take some time to think about this, is it possible that sexual orientation/attraction is a subconscious decision?

To be honest, man, anything is probably possible until proven otherwise, I suppose.

gotcha... well let me rephrase that... half the things in the bible are proved by science.

Haha. Either way you rephrase it, it still isn't so, dude. But this topic isn't for that discussion, my man. Later, QD.