Lolol @ NASCAR...

[Brett]

Aside from fuel injection what else is new?

For the 2 Speedway tracks this year (Daytona and Talladega) they have made the rear spoiler smaller and radiator inlets and radiator smaller to stop the tandem racing that has been taking place since the new cars came out 3 years ago, these new changes force them back to pack racing which is very exciting to watch but make the cars more unstable, especially when one car disrupts air off the left rear bumper from behind, which is why there have been so many wrecks during speedweek this week.

[AnthonyF]

NASCAR CAN'T race in the rain, it doesn't take a scientist to figure out that wet race tires need to be WET to work. At 200mph for long periods of time on a high banked oval with a pack of cars, the track will somewhat dry, without large amounts of water to cool the rain tires, they will heat up far too much and explode.

With that said, NASCAR simply can't race in the rain because the tires can't handle that. There are other reasons why it'd be unsafe but that's the reason why it's impossible.

Most of the time we see eye to eye...here we couldn't be any further apart. All I have to say is:

If motorcycles can race in the rain, why can't nascar?


You say it is b/c of the tire compound. So there are no other alternatives? What about the tires for F1 and Indy? Can they not use the technology from these tires? I believe Nascar drivers are a bunch of drama queens. What a shitty "sport."

-Ant.

[Elbow]

Most of the time we see eye to eye...here we couldn't be any further apart. All I have to say is:

If motorcycles can race in the rain, why can't nascar?


You say it is b/c of the tire compound. So there are no other alternatives? What about the tires for F1 and Indy? Can they not use the technology from these tires? I believe Nascar drivers are a bunch of drama queens. What a shitty "sport."

-Ant.

Wet tires cannot handle heat no matter what. Not even in F1 not even in bikes.

Other series can run in the wet on a road course because the loads are completely different and they can move off line to find puddles to cool tires.

NASCAR will run in the wet on road courses, but on an oval, the water falls down, the track will heat fast, tires will explode. There's no way to do it with what is available and even if they found a tire that could do it other concerns still exist, easiest is spray. In a pack like they run in it would be brutal.

A large majority of NASCAR drivers COULD easily run in the wet, most have road racing experience, grew up on dirt tracks, etc. There is no lack of driver skill in the field.

[blaknoize]

Wet tires cannot handle heat no matter what. Not even in F1 not even in bikes.

Other series can run in the wet on a road course because the loads are completely different and they can move off line to find puddles to cool tires.

NASCAR will run in the wet on road courses, but on an oval, the water falls down, the track will heat fast, tires will explode. There's no way to do it with what is available and even if they found a tire that could do it other concerns still exist, easiest is spray. In a pack like they run in it would be brutal.

A large majority of NASCAR drivers COULD easily run in the wet, most have road racing experience, grew up on dirt tracks, etc. There is no lack of driver skill in the field.

But isn't there a Dry/Wet compound available that will create a pit schedule/strategy? Indy/Formula and Superbike all have a dry/wet tire compound available. Yes the tires my explode but that's why you pit to change tires, pure wet, dry/wet and dry.

[Elbow]

But isn't there a Dry/Wet compound available that will create a pit schedule/strategy? Indy/Formula and Superbike all have a dry/wet tire compound available. Yes the tires my explode but that's why you pit to change tires, pure wet, dry/wet and dry.

I'm not sure what you mean. There are three typical tires: dry, intermediates, wets. Wets and intermediates will only work when it's either WET or damp, as the temps go up they will fall apart. There would be no good in between pitting, if intermediates could be used it'd probably be a risk as that means there are damp spots and you'd see far too many pit stops to even have an exciting race. Road racers can make things work because they can go off line to find water and stay out longer, with a banked oval the water runs down and after a few laps you will have a dry banking and puddle spotted straights. It would just be a mess and more of a safety concern than anything else because we all know the drivers would be going balls out no matter what.

[Brett]

I'm not sure what you mean. There are three typical tires: dry, intermediates, wets. Wets and intermediates will only work when it's either WET or damp, as the temps go up they will fall apart. There would be no good in between pitting, if intermediates could be used it'd probably be a risk as that means there are damp spots and you'd see far too many pit stops to even have an exciting race. Road racers can make things work because they can go off line to find water and stay out longer, with a banked oval the water runs down and after a few laps you will have a dry banking and puddle spotted straights. It would just be a mess and more of a safety concern than anything else because we all know the drivers would be going balls out no matter what.

SCHOOL THESE DUMB ASS FOLK WHO DONT SEEM TO GET THAT EVEN THOUGH ITS BEEN EXPLAIN IN HERE 3 TIMES!!

[blaknoize]

SCHOOL THESE DUMB ASS FOLK WHO DONT SEEM TO GET THAT EVEN THOUGH ITS BEEN EXPLAIN IN HERE 3 TIMES!!

U know what Brett. I F###n hate you [-__-].

But yes, intermediates was the tire I was referring to. If it was raining then stopped the drivers would pit like all others. Yes the racing line or even total track speed would slow or move, but I'd only assume a pro race driver would pace himself (along with his crew) to make as few pits as possible. Then the race would continue. IMO the race would be even more exciting. But... this is me talking about a sport I rarely watch.