Legit complaint?

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War is not something implemented into everyday life, when has someone been accused of being a warist? Your missing the point here, and the point is that racism is a problem of the moment I never hear anyone ever talk about war's on the streets or in everyday conversation. I couldn't even tell you the last time I had some coffee in the break room and had a conversation about WW1 or any of those other events. Stick to the topic there is no need to stray away from the matter at hand, and if you want to have a debate about the similarities of wars vs racism (Which idk how thats going to go) make a new thread.

I am on topic here! Lol. You said we should take mentions of slavery and the bad parts of history out of the classroom. Everything I mentioned has everything to do with that.

[Dylan]

Ignorance causes way too many problems these days...

[STRteg]

drug use while operating a vehicle can cost someone their life. you are comparing a word to an action that can take someones life or seriously injure them. complete different story.

also might i point out that no one alive in america today is oppressed by the term slavery or slave. no one is or has been a slave in a long time. that is whats wrong with society today, people are so worried about hurting someones feelings everyone gets enabled and that their mediocrity needs to be rewarded, this type of thinking is going to slowly bring our society further into the shit hole.

Dude you are still missing the point this isn't about injuring someone from drugs this is about getting fired for doing one thing wrong....remember? your argument piece from earlier??? Yeah well you do drugs once you get fired. WHY because it affects other people. You offend hundreds of parents and maybe the children Guess what? You should be Fired WHY because it affects other people. And are you completely blind? There are slaves right now! Currently! in other countries, get educated before you jump in this ring buddy slavery is huge these days not here in america but other places yes start researching you have alot to learn

[CptWitwiki]

you are comparing a major one thing wrong to an extremely minor thing wrong. if someone is offended by the word slave they need to be slapped. slave is not an offensive word.... speaking of blind did you not see the phrase IN AMERICA. maybe you should read before you insult someone's intelligence.

[CptWitwiki]

know what else i find amusing you admit that the average person doesnt realize that there were more than just black slaves... yet you think that it needs not be taught in school?

[STRteg]

you are comparing a major one thing wrong to an extremely minor thing wrong. if someone is offended by the word slave they need to be slapped. slave is not an offensive word.... speaking of blind did you not see the phrase IN AMERICA. maybe you should read before you insult someone's intelligence.

Regardless of major wrong or minor wrong WRONG IS WRONG. Oh so if someone who escaped from slavery gets offended by the word slave they should get slapped? are you serious right now!?

know what else i find amusing you admit that the average person doesnt realize that there were more than just black slaves... yet you think that it needs not be taught in school?

Know what I find amusing? You still after 3 pages have failed to realize to whole point of this thread and our debate. And yeah I don't think ANY FORM of it should be taught in school AT ALL, not educate everyone on all the different shapes, and sizes and colors of slaves.

[STRteg]

I am on topic here! Lol. You said we should take mentions of slavery and the bad parts of history out of the classroom. Everything I mentioned has everything to do with that.

lol bad parts of history? lmfao no sir please people please read!!!!! this is what I said

We most definitely should but I feel like some things in history shouldn't be re-taught generation after generation, it is pointless and frivolous to repetitively teach generations and generations of hatred and stupidity that once was. This type of repetition is only prolonging racism and anger in the hearts of young kids and their parents alike. Although it is an important part of history I think it needs to be removed from class. If parents want their kids to learn about it they can provide reference materials and proceed how they see fit, otherwise keep it out of the classroom.

[Scotsman]

know what else i find amusing you admit that the average person doesnt realize that there were more than just black slaves... yet you think that it needs not be taught in school?

Braveheart.....................enough said , my kin were "slaves" too , you dont have to be black to be a slave

[STRteg]

Braveheart.....................enough said , my kin were "slaves" too , you dont have to be black to be a slave

Ok so you had past family that were slaves? I'm so sorry to hear this, but if you don't mind can I ask you how the OP's topic makes you feel? and what you feel like should be done to rectify this situation

[Scotsman]

Ok so you had past family that were slaves? I'm so sorry to hear this, but if you don't mind can I ask you how the OP's topic makes you feel? and what you feel like should be done to rectify this situation

my honest opinion?

[STRteg]

my honest opinion?

Yeah lol or do you just not care?

[Scotsman]

i dont care actually , america is the only place that gets super fuckin bent out of shape with this race crap , to be honest , who fuckin cares , you go to any other f'n country , and guess what .........................all colours are the same , and no that wasnt a f'n typo

[STRteg]

i dont care actually , america is the only place that gets super fuckin bent out of shape with this race crap , to be honest , who fuckin cares , you go to any other f'n country , and guess what .........................all colours are the same , and no that wasnt a f'n typo

Yeah I feel ya but I'm coming more from the lines of being a father, I'm not sure if you have little ones or not but that kind of stuff bothers me.

[Scotsman]

Yeah I feel ya but I'm coming more from the lines of being a father, I'm not sure if you have little ones or not but that kind of stuff bothers me.

i have two wee lads(one is 2 and one is 5 , very impressionable ages if you ask me) , and i for sure will raise them that we are all the same , i never saw race issues til i moved to america , sad how that works

[Scotsman]

and yes it bothers me greatly , as in i cant see how people cant see past this

[Echonova]

Rasice is the reason, why many a white man has never tasted brown sugar.



Darker the berry, sweeter the juice. IMO

[CptWitwiki]

it is pointless and frivolous to repetitively teach generations and generations of hatred and stupidity that once was. This type of repetition is only prolonging racism and anger in the hearts of young kids and their parents alike

thats what you said, so by that standard we shouldnt teach of the holocaust either because there are jewish students and they shouldnt hear about how millions of their people were murdered out of pure hatred and stupidity. IMO that was far worse than slavery, slavery was a terrible thing for us definitely but how many slaves were mass killed.

ignorance is what breeds racism, not knowledge and your solution to the problem of racism is to not teach the bad things that happened in the past.

again i will say that the math problem was inappropriate. however, it is not racist.

[Scotsman]

it is pointless and frivolous to repetitively teach generations and generations of hatred and stupidity that once was. This type of repetition is only prolonging racism and anger in the hearts of young kids and their parents alike

thats what you said, so by that standard we shouldnt teach of the holocaust either because there are jewish students and they shouldnt hear about how millions of their people were murdered out of pure hatred and stupidity. IMO that was far worse than slavery, slavery was a terrible thing for us definitely but how many slaves were mass killed.

ignorance is what breeds racism, not knowledge and your solution to the problem of racism is to not teach the bad things that happened in the past.

again i will say that the math problem was inappropriate. however, it is not racist.

kudos to you

[STRteg]

it is pointless and frivolous to repetitively teach generations and generations of hatred and stupidity that once was. This type of repetition is only prolonging racism and anger in the hearts of young kids and their parents alike

thats what you said, so by that standard we shouldnt teach of the holocaust either because there are jewish students and they shouldnt hear about how millions of their people were murdered out of pure hatred and stupidity. IMO that was far worse than slavery, slavery was a terrible thing for us definitely but how many slaves were mass killed.

ignorance is what breeds racism, not knowledge and your solution to the problem of racism is to not teach the bad things that happened in the past.

again i will say that the math problem was inappropriate. however, it is not racist.

If you will please redirect yourself to the previous pages and re-read this entire thread you will see that I concur that the problem was in fact inappropriate and not racist, But if you REALLY REALLY read and pay attention to all the things I've posted you will see that I was rationalizing for the people that not only do not know that there were different colors and races of slaves, but for the parents and the grandparents of the parents that had slavery involved in their family. These people will see this as racism please re-read everything again and let it soak what I've been saying because your misconstrued concept of this debate is failing hard. And as much as I would love to continue this debate I'd rather be playing MW3 so I'll ttyl

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it is pointless and frivolous to repetitively teach generations and generations of hatred and stupidity that once was. This type of repetition is only prolonging racism and anger in the hearts of young kids and their parents alike

thats what you said, so by that standard we shouldnt teach of the holocaust either because there are jewish students and they shouldnt hear about how millions of their people were murdered out of pure hatred and stupidity. IMO that was far worse than slavery, slavery was a terrible thing for us definitely but how many slaves were mass killed.

I'm glad someone else caught this bullshit. Lol.

[CptWitwiki]

Are you kidding me!? Yeah slaves picking oranges isn't a racist gesture at all........

so this isnt saying it was racist?

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so this isnt saying it was racist?

Of course not, because he thinks that no one else anywhere in the world has ever picked an orange from a tree other than black slaves in America. Lol

[CptWitwiki]

yeah and black slaves were the most common too... we also had chinese slaves working on the railroads out west.

http://www.revisionisthistory.org/forgottenslaves.html

[CptWitwiki]

African american slaves back in the early colonial days of America were used as farming tools (On a farm) to work the fields, upkeep the crops, bring in the harvest etc etc

Now lets revert back to the original mathematical equation:

"Each tree has 56 oranges. If eight slaves pick them equally, then how much would each slave pick?"

The question clearly is making references leading to the fact that there is more than one orange tree by saying "each" and also note "56 oranges" on each tree idk about you, but I don't know many people that have multiple orange trees on their property other than a farm. So you put two and two together and you have slaves picking oranges from trees .... and your not getting the racism there?

this was your response to Browning151's question of "please explain how this is racist." again with your response you suggest that you believe that it was racist.

[Scotsman]

yeah and black slaves were the most common too... we also had chinese slaves working on the railroads out west.

http://www.revisionisthistory.org/forgottenslaves.html

i beg to differ , the scots and irish were slaves also

[Browning151]

ignorance is what breeds racism, not knowledge and your solution to the problem of racism is to not teach the bad things that happened in the past.

Ding ding ding.

Knowledge is the solution, not the problem.

[Browning151]

Of course not, because he thinks that no one else anywhere in the world has ever picked an orange from a tree other than black slaves in America. Lol

LOL. Pretty narrow minded if you ask me.

[Scotsman]

yeah and black slaves were the most common too... we also had chinese slaves working on the railroads out west.

http://www.revisionisthistory.org/forgottenslaves.html

due to american history

[CptWitwiki]

i beg to differ , the scots and irish were slaves also

oh i know STRteg seems to think that black slaves in america were the biggest group of slaves in history or most commonly thought of

[Scotsman]

Of course not, because he thinks that no one else anywhere in the world has ever picked an orange from a tree other than black slaves in America. Lol

actually it was the floridians

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I'm taking solace in the fact that no matter how much he complains about it, and for the sake of future generations and his children's future, they will continue to teach the atrocities in history to his children in public and private schools, and there isn't much he can do about it, except play MW3

[CptWitwiki]

probably lets his young children sit by and listen to him/the people he plays yelling at each other

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"Dad, why did that guy in the game call you a dumb nigger?"

(because MW3 online has some of the most racist fucks imaginable)

"Well son, I really can't tell you. There's a period of time where that word was used that I don't want you to know about"

[CptWitwiki]

hahaha

and yes mw3 has a lot of racist comments being thrown around.

[Scotsman]

i am for the " should be brought up outside of school" , too many bended thoughts on what racism is , its not always about the "south"

[Scotsman]

hahaha

and yes mw3 has a lot of racist comments being thrown around.

you must have a failbox

[CptWitwiki]

nope i have a ps3 and i hear racists comments a lot, not just against black people against all people and honestly i dont care. what other people have to say about other races or my own has no effect on me or my thinking.

[Theycall_Metue]

i find it funny.

[STRteg]

Ok I wasn't expecting to get railed when I initially voiced my opinion, but allow me to retort:

CptWitwiki - you were the first person in this entire thread to bring up racism, and your comment referenced towards "Racist Gesture" which coincidentally is what I ran with in the entire thread in every response.

its not like it was a racist gesture.

Note the use of the word "Gesture"

Right. But you have to take into consideration how the world is and how our society operates. Just like you, I too know that not all slaves were black, but allot of people are unaware of this fact and immediately jump the gun when the word slave is used to implement it with black people because that is the most popular form of slavery from back in the day. So when you take that into consideration I'd have to say yeah just using the word slaves by itself is extremely inappropriate especially in a mathematical equation simple math or not.

This is why I said to read through my responses because I carried "Racist Gesture" through this whole debate, Also there is no where in this thread where I typed that it was racist, Implying racism? yes will the people that are unaware of the facts noted above assume this to be racism? YES you know why the NAACP jumped in? Because they interpreted this as a racist situation (otherwise they wouldn't be involved) I stated a few times that the problem with the mathematical word problem was the inappropriate use of "Slaves" not racism

Ok, and even in the event it wasn't meant to be racist, the question was inappropriate and should have never been seen by children in a school or anyone anywhere and those responsible should lose their jobs for ever even contemplating such a despicable gesture.

Me stating once again that it was in fact inappropriate not racist

so you say one thing that is inappropriate and you should lose you job immediately? it was wrong i agree and i think that they need to be put on a probation and if something like this happens again then and only then do they deserve to lose their jobs.

This is you confirming and acknowledging me stating the math question was inappropriate

I still fail to see anywhere in this thread where I said it was racism, but i'll defend to my death that it most definitely implies it, and plenty of other people will interpret it that way too

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i am for the " should be brought up outside of school" , too many bended thoughts on what racism is , its not always about the "south"

It should be brought up outside as well, but it's fruitless to not include racism in context in the classroom. Not only does this purvey the message of why certain events happened during the course of history, but you also take it out of the hands of some parents that may have twisted views of racism, or that actually believe in racism, because they're still out there, believe it or not.