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    Quote Originally Posted by JITB
    98%? man youve got other issues..with them or something like some NO ppl killed your puppy or seomthing. You get that FEma check, and than right behind that you get bills in the mail from your flooded out house in NO, and other expenses still lef tover. AMn you dont jsut move away and start over. you got to catch up there and than come start over. Your talkin out of your ass....i know about 95% of ppl on IA would be devastated and stuck in a hard place for waaay longer than 2 months, if they lost everything they owned.

    i dont know how u can say that 98% of evacuees are taking advantage of the system is one of the dumbest tihgns ive ever heard...fuckin ridiculious. Im not just sayint hat b/c ive got alot of family that have left NO its just in general. how can u assume that everyoen has family to runt oo when times get hard, and that everyone has someone to go to when they are left with nothing..

    How many ppl within 1 weeks notice could just get up and move away, and find another job to support a family form scratch with nothing, u do waht you got to do...an get it done but it takes time..

    I dont see why it bothers anyone that much, its not like u got people on the news begging for shit, they arent even letting people go home, and help clean up there own areas. Theyahd thousands of residents wanting to go back and help cleanup and get paid for it anda hourly rate. That would have been a great help


    you are crazy....of course people are taking advantage of the system! it's like someone already said though....it's our fault....we've been giving them food stamps low income housing and all these other handouts that they only expect more now that they are put out.

    My family, that is 7 different familes and homes in Louisiana, all put out by the storm.....two of them got calls from their jobs and basically said that they wont have jobs because the company folded....others got calls saying they will not be back to work for months! I was fucking there 3 days after the hurricane hit to go back with my family to survey the damage and see what we could salvage and whatnot....if it were me, I'd take the insurance check and not even look back, knock down whatever's left and just sell the land off....but all my cousins and aunt/uncle wanted to rebuild and get back on their feet as soon as possible....they drove to Texas, Al, and GA to buy supplies (sheetrock, wood, doors, windows) and that's what they did, ALL OF THEM. With no power and running water, they worked to keep themselves busy and cleaned up. Yeah, they couldve stayed with us and just sat here and sulked waiting for the govt to do something, but they didnt........they lost everything just as everyone else, but I do feel that alot are just milking it and waiting for the govt to give them more and more....I dont feel as if it's high as 98%, but I seriously think about 75% is a more realistic number of people trying to milk the system.

    there are some that are trying to rebuild and get shit back together, but if you go back to NO now, it's still pretty deserted, compared to this time last year...why? because once they head home, they dont get to live in that nice hotel and have all the amentities at their beck and call....people are treating as a long ass vacation, and I cant wait till they finally get kicked out and head home with no FEMA or Red Cross money left because they spent it all, and you are gonna hear them on the news bitching and whining about how nobody did anything for them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AznTraitor

    there are some that are trying to rebuild and get shit back together, but if you go back to NO now, it's still pretty deserted, compared to this time last year...why? because once they head home, they dont get to live in that nice hotel and have all the amentities at their beck and call....people are treating as a long ass vacation, and I cant wait till they finally get kicked out and head home with no FEMA or Red Cross money left because they spent it all, and you are gonna hear them on the news bitching and whining about how nobody did anything for them...

    SOoo just assume that 75% are just doing nothing, and sitting on their ass... Noone knows waht they are doing.. SOo who are anyone to say what they are doing and what they are not. Its retarded.


    ANd aloso assume that everyoen wants to go back and rebuild, not everyone wants too. And also assume that people dont want to go back because they are living the good life... LOL the good life? living in a hotel the good life? Fuck that people want to go home. If any of them could go back to how it was the would..i gurantee that.

    My family did the same, Some went to Texas, and my cousin and her family came up here to find a house. But for everyone its not as easy as set a stake on the ground and proclaim new land and start over. There are two different sides to everything, and too just look at it and say

    "wow those lazy low income idiots woh didnt leave should be kicked on the streets for not being able to get back on there feet in 2 months" is abou as ignoratn as anything.

    How you could wish and wait for people to be kicked out on the streets is some dumb shit.

    I dont hink i have seen anyone complaining about the help that theya re getting on tv? SOo i dont even know why the uproar, all they asked for was more time. All that money donated has to go soemwhere why not use it.

    People take advantage of everything...whats new. If u want to be mad, be mad at the non - NO residents that are taking money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JITB
    How you could wish and wait for people to be kicked out on the streets is some dumb shit.

    I dont hink i have seen anyone complaining about the help that theya re getting on tv? SOo i dont even know why the uproar, all they asked for was more time. All that money donated has to go soemwhere why not use it.

    People take advantage of everything...whats new. If u want to be mad, be mad at the non - NO residents that are taking money.
    I can wish for them to be kicked out on the streets, because if they are still in hotels, then it's quite OBVIOUS that they havent done anything to go back and try to fix their homes....because it doesnt take anything but a little elbow grease to get things fixed and cleaned. And these people "lining" up to get home? yeah, that was the case at first....but right now, it's free and clear....everyone is allowed to go home now to start with the rebuilding process with the exception of ONE parish, simply because it's 99% destroyed and it's been deemed too far below sea level than the rest of the parishes, this particular parish is also pretty much all low income housing, and it probably houses maybe 10-20,000 at most, you have thousands if not more staying at hotels on the govt's dollar and they have the okay to head home to start with the rebuild....what's stopping them? Money? doubtful, because FEMA issued out those $2000 debit cards, Red Cross handed out those debit cards ranging from $500-$1500. Plus, insurance companies have already swept thru the area issuing checks as well. There is no fucking reason to be in those hotels....I saw families setting up tents outside their homes to sleep...they didnt go to any hotels......why? because they wanted to get shit cleaned up and rebuilt.

    You are a moron if you seriously think people who are staying at these hotels are begging to go home and some almighty hand is holding them back....yeah, the hand that is holding them back is the hand that feeds them....

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    I'm in New Orleans right now...my uncle owns a helicopter bussiness, FEMA is paying him for his help.... at first he helped people and animals... but tomorrow he and I are going to look for Kauffins...yes there are tons of Kaufens that are just lying around...it should be pretty fun...it just makes me sick cause alot of people really did need help and some people down here who lost power for half a day got a 2000$ check from FEMA....people are buying purses and video games with the money they got from FEMA just cause they were in a certain area...i dont know how they took the money from FEMA when there own neighbors were in need of real help....it just sucks...ill let yall know what i see/find tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tatodotcom
    I'm in New Orleans right now...my uncle owns a helicopter bussiness, FEMA is paying him for his help.... at first he helped people and animals... but tomorrow he and I are going to look for Kauffins...yes there are tons of Kaufens that are just lying around...it should be pretty fun...it just makes me sick cause alot of people really did need help and some people down here who lost power for half a day got a 2000$ check from FEMA....people are buying purses and video games with the money they got from FEMA just cause they were in a certain area...i dont know how they took the money from FEMA when there own neighbors were in need of real help....it just sucks...ill let yall know what i see/find tomorrow.

    it's "coffins" and yeah...that does suck....we saw a few that were stacked on the side of the roads because they washed up. Right now though, pretty much everyone minus the people who live out near the Rigolets have power and running water....

    and for people who didnt know, Louisiana's ground is too moist for underground burials, so alot of graves are above ground, so when it floods, every now and then, those cement tops come off and the coffins float out, and sometimes they open and sometimes they dont.

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    yea yesterday we found some cauffins that dated back to civil war times...weird
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    Quote Originally Posted by tatodotcom
    yea yesterday we found some cauffins that dated back to civil war times...weird

    well, yeah...the great cemetaries that hold all the civil war and famous voodoo queens is like 5 mins away from the French Quarter...so I assumed it was flooded pretty bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AznTraitor
    I can wish for them to be kicked out on the streets, because if they are still in hotels, then it's quite OBVIOUS that they havent done anything to go back and try to fix their homes....because it doesnt take anything but a little elbow grease to get things fixed and cleaned. And these people "lining" up to get home? yeah, that was the case at first....but right now, it's free and clear....everyone is allowed to go home now to start with the rebuilding process with the exception of ONE parish, simply because it's 99% destroyed and it's been deemed too far below sea level than the rest of the parishes, this particular parish is also pretty much all low income housing, and it probably houses maybe 10-20,000 at most, you have thousands if not more staying at hotels on the govt's dollar and they have the okay to head home to start with the rebuild....what's stopping them? Money? doubtful, because FEMA issued out those $2000 debit cards, Red Cross handed out those debit cards ranging from $500-$1500. Plus, insurance companies have already swept thru the area issuing checks as well. There is no fucking reason to be in those hotels....I saw families setting up tents outside their homes to sleep...they didnt go to any hotels......why? because they wanted to get shit cleaned up and rebuilt.

    You are a moron if you seriously think people who are staying at these hotels are begging to go home and some almighty hand is holding them back....yeah, the hand that is holding them back is the hand that feeds them....

    AAAAAHHAHAHA free and clear my ass.. NO isnt back up and runnin yet, you still cant go into baout 80% of the city. I dont know where u are gettin your info.

    Youc ant doo that much with 2000$ get real this is the real wqorld, hell ive spent taht much in a month.

    just b//c your family got back on the right path dont mean everyone can, i see youve got soem sort of tunnel vision. Elbow grease cleaned up? i hope that was a joke..most of those homes are destroyed, im sure if they just fly back and get soem 409 and a mop and a bucket it will be all back to normal...WOW tlak about joke of the day.

    I mean i guess yoru right, go ahead and just categorize the bad peoeple doing the wrong thing and taking advantage of this whole situtation and just say that everyone that hasnt got back straight yet after 2 month are lazy fools...and deserve to live on the street. IT seems to be the right thing to do, and go ahead and assume that everyones not doign anything.

    I for one know first hand that thousands and thousands of peeps cant go back yet....my own family hasnt been allowed back to even pick up anything that can maybe be salvaged. And besides them looking for a house and getting there kids back in school and getting back on there feet.

    Fema gave debt cards - Red cross gave housing and food - Insurance companies took care of the all salvage claims for vehicles - house all that. IF you were insured for flood damage. And they helped find ppl new homes and whatever they go. You all act like its hurting you to see them get a bit more time... I mean if they wanted to give 911 victims more money noone would have a problem.

    what gives anyoen the right to tell when someones trying... you dont know there situation what they are doign, and what they are going thru. You could either try to find a solution to help and make it better for both sides, or you could just make it worse by critizing and makin ignorant assumptions..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JITB
    I mean if they wanted to give 911 victims more money noone would have a problem.
    I would say the same thing. I know it's not exactly the same thing, but, in a way, the same results. People, white/black/whatever, need to start getting their shit together and get back to rebuilding their lives.

    My main thought is I don't see a problem with FEMA helping people that are doing something to help themselves. I'm sure they could keep a database of people who are working and trying to earn some sort of living on their own. These are the people that FEMA should help. It all goes back to the saying: Help those who help themselves. I believe in that. Later, QD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ
    I would say the same thing. I know it's not exactly the same thing, but, in a way, the same results. People, white/black/whatever, need to start getting their shit together and get back to rebuilding their lives.

    My main thought is I don't see a problem with FEMA helping people that are doing something to help themselves. I'm sure they could keep a database of people who are working and trying to earn some sort of living on their own. These are the people that FEMA should help. It all goes back to the saying: Help those who help themselves. I believe in that. Later, QD.

    perfect, thats how i see it.

    dont punish the good with saying "they aint doing shit to help themsleves...fuck em all..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by JITB
    AAAAAHHAHAHA free and clear my ass.. NO isnt back up and runnin yet, you still cant go into baout 80% of the city. I dont know where u are gettin your info.

    Youc ant doo that much with 2000$ get real this is the real wqorld, hell ive spent taht much in a month.

    just b//c your family got back on the right path dont mean everyone can, i see youve got soem sort of tunnel vision. Elbow grease cleaned up? i hope that was a joke..most of those homes are destroyed, im sure if they just fly back and get soem 409 and a mop and a bucket it will be all back to normal...WOW tlak about joke of the day.

    I mean i guess yoru right, go ahead and just categorize the bad peoeple doing the wrong thing and taking advantage of this whole situtation and just say that everyone that hasnt got back straight yet after 2 month are lazy fools...and deserve to live on the street. IT seems to be the right thing to do, and go ahead and assume that everyones not doign anything.

    I for one know first hand that thousands and thousands of peeps cant go back yet....my own family hasnt been allowed back to even pick up anything that can maybe be salvaged. And besides them looking for a house and getting there kids back in school and getting back on there feet.

    Fema gave debt cards - Red cross gave housing and food - Insurance companies took care of the all salvage claims for vehicles - house all that. IF you were insured for flood damage. And they helped find ppl new homes and whatever they go. You all act like its hurting you to see them get a bit more time... I mean if they wanted to give 911 victims more money noone would have a problem.

    what gives anyoen the right to tell when someones trying... you dont know there situation what they are doign, and what they are going thru. You could either try to find a solution to help and make it better for both sides, or you could just make it worse by critizing and makin ignorant assumptions..
    sounds like you have tunnel vision with your family. And, my family got screwed....but do they whine or want to live in a hotel or ask for any handouts? no. They all live on Poncetrain...all their piers that extend out so we can fish were completely wiped out, boats gone, cars gone, everything was FLOODED...but the insurance companies wouldnt cover FLOOD damage because their houses are on the stilts....everything that was on the 1st floor, is gone...and they dont get jack for it. Not one cent. The most they are getting is Wind Damage insurance. Which is basically broken windows, roofing, and the area where my family lives, all the stairs are gone...from the wind or from the waters? who really knows....but insurance companies want to say water so they dont have to shell out money for it.

    goto Nola.com there's a message board and I get my info from there and my family.

    From the sounds of it, sounds like you have family in these hotels.

    Fema gave debit cards and so did Red Cross. Dont act like Red Cross is only giving food and housing, they gave money as well. FEMA is also delivering mobile trailers to people who are AT their homes, and you requested them. My Uncle has one plopped right in front of his house...and he didnt even want it.

    I feel bad for the people who come back to nothing and dont know wether to rebuild or just pick up and leave....BUT there are too many people who are taking advantage of this and all they can do is keep putting their hand out for more hand outs. I think that's the biggest thing you cant understand...they want sympathy and expect too much...just like the 800 people who were put on a Carnival Cruise ship and complained that it was a plot to keep them off the streets and contained in one area...wtf? they were put on a luxury cruise liner and could do whatever they pleased, yet they complain? I dont know why you have this Robin Hood feather up your ass, but you need to wake up and stop being a ignorant fool and want to continue keep giving handouts....that's the problem we are having now....people always want more. more, more, more. Once you give them what they want, they still wont be satisfied, because someone will complain, and then another and then another and then a chain starts with everyone wanting more. People are greedy, you, me, them.

    If you have spent $2000 in 1 month with free housing and free food, then you need to learn how to spend more wisely...that sounds like a money issue if anything and you better take a econ and accounting class, because from the sounds of it, your ass will be on the streets soon.

    And I am 100% serious about "Elbow Grease", all it fucking takes is some motivation and have at it. I shoveled black mud for 3 days that was a foot high. We moved a boat, and all sorts of debris that got caught under the house and shit that was around the house. My cousin had a god damn tree across his whole house, and yet he was able to cut it all down and put a tarp over his roof. Dont be so fucking lazy, if you cant help yourself, then no one can help you. Sounds like you would just sit back and not do shit if you were in a natural diaster, and that's why your ass would be crying for more, and that's why you are arguing the fact that people are lazy and wont get off their ass's.

    You want to know a good way to make easy money? Fucking goto Louisiana right now....and start doing contract work. My cousins are all doing that, and getting paid big time for it. I plan on heading there for my whole christmas break and doing the same. We all know there's no shortage of work....there's still alot to clean up, but people are too "proud" to do manual labor.

    if you are so hell bent on giving more and have no problem with it, sell your new car and your old one and donate the money...

    I cant even begin to tell you how much I have spent/donated. I cant even tell you how much of my own money that I used to buy cases of water to bring down to my family and their neighbors and random strangers. I have no problem giving to people who need help....but people who cant help themselves will get 0 sympathy from me.

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    ALSO....alot of mortgage companies and some credit card companies were allowing people extensions or putting a freeze on their account so that they wouldnt be hit so hard with all those bills. Trust me, plenty of people and companies are being sympathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AznTraitor

    If you have spent $2000 in 1 month with free housing and free food, then you need to learn how to spend more wisely...that sounds like a money issue if anything and you better take a econ and accounting class, because from the sounds of it, your ass will be on the streets soon.
    Theres that assumptions again, talkin out of your ass, in the last month i threw down 1500$ for a downpayment, and another 500$ for expenses and personal stuff, see you dont know you didnt know that sooo for you to say that i end financial help with MY money is ignorant...

    IM not gonan read that now, but i read enough. And i stopped my family isnt in any hotels.. AS a matter of fact, i just go tback fromm their HOUSE in cobb county. where we just ate thanksgiving dinner. And they have been here 2 months since they left, ther doin just fine.. My famiy isnt in a hotel, there all fine and moving on.

    AS i stated times and times before. I just know that there are people that need more help. And the ones taking advatnage of it shouldnt get shit, and the ones who need it should get it, but there isnt time to weed out all that , they are trying to and they are finding ppl who are doing so, but in the end it will all come to surface..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JITB
    Theres that assumptions again, talkin out of your ass, in the last month i threw down 1500$ for a downpayment, and another 500$ for expenses and personal stuff, see you dont know you didnt know that sooo for you to say that i end financial help with MY money is ignorant...

    IM not gonan read that now, but i read enough. And i stopped my family isnt in any hotels.. AS a matter of fact, i just go tback fromm their HOUSE in cobb county. where we just ate thanksgiving dinner. And they have been here 2 months since they left, ther doin just fine.. My famiy isnt in a hotel, there all fine and moving on.

    AS i stated times and times before. I just know that there are people that need more help. And the ones taking advatnage of it shouldnt get shit, and the ones who need it should get it, but there isnt time to weed out all that , they are trying to and they are finding ppl who are doing so, but in the end it will all come to surface..

    Are you fucking retarded? If these people spend that $2000 in one month, while they have free housing, and free food...what the fuck are they spending it on? You still arent including Red Cross money or anything ontop of what insurance cut them....if you didnt already know...insurance companies will give you a number on what they want to give you, and then you get a insurance adjuster to go back and look over those numbers and actually tell the insurance companies what you need, and if you get a good adjuster, it's always a good amount and a little extra ontop to help you out.

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