screw your v8 hondas were its at

[Echonova]

Agreed, the MPG argument is dumb...

And somehow the V8 nut-swinging, jizz gargling, turd burglars have manged to make this a debate about only being faster in a straight line for 1/8 or a 1/4 mile.

A fact which is only exceeded in sheer stupidity that the much more dumber Honda guys would argue that. (yes, I did "much more dumber" on purpose)

But because I'm sure somebody, somewhere has a fully built Mustang race car and used exotic metals, like Aluminum instead of the standard 3 inch thick steel (yes Aluminum is an exotic metal to V8 guys, not as exotic as BILLET though... BILLET, man) on the hood/doors/roof/trunk to make it lighter, with some modified knuckles so you can actually turn the steering wheel to the left AND the right, and forced that pig to go around a racetrack against it's will, and posted a Youtube video of it... That one singular video will be posted here as proof that ALL V8 musclecars handle like a Lotus Extige on R compound tires.

[David88vert]

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And somehow the V8 nut-swinging, jizz gargling, turd burglars have manged to make this a debate about only being faster in a straight line for 1/8 or a 1/4 mile.
But because I'm sure somebody, somewhere has a fully built Mustang race car and used exotic metals, like Aluminum instead of the standard 3 inch thick steel (yes Aluminum is an exotic metal to V8 guys, not as exotic as BILLET though... BILLET, man) on the hood/doors/roof/trunk to make it lighter, with some modified knuckles so you can actually turn the steering wheel to the left AND the right, and forced that pig to go around a racetrack against it's will, and posted a Youtube video of it... That one singular video will be posted here as proof that ALL V8 musclecars handle like a Lotus Extige on R compound tires.

Actually, there are several series that Mustangs run in. And there are a variety of suppliers that offer track suspension. One of the more well-known ones is MM. They offer a good package for just about any year Mustang.
http://www.maximummotorsports.com/st...dex&cPath=1_68

Corvettes seem to do pretty well - better than Civic, S2Ks, etc. They are V8.

Camaros have suppliers that give them good upgrades as well, and are used in quite a few race series.

GTOs are Holdens. Have you watched any V8 Supercar races?

[Echonova]

Actually, there are several series that Mustangs run in. And there are a variety of suppliers that offer track suspension. One of the more well-known ones is MM. They offer a good package for just about any year Mustang.
http://www.maximummotorsports.com/st...dex&cPath=1_68

I've never heard of them, so they aren't that well known... But it is further proof that Google can truly find anything.

Corvettes seem to do pretty well - better than Civic, S2Ks, etc. They are V8.

So if you had to drive an '85 Corvette or a '85 Civic, both with 200,000 miles on the clock, to San Fransisco tonight with zero breakdowns because your life depended on it... Which would you choose?

Camaros have suppliers that give them good upgrades as well, and are used in quite a few race series.

Really?

Like WRC? Uh... No.

Never saw a Camaro in a JSB race either.

SCCA Spec Miata class.... Just checked, no Camaros

This just in... No Camaros in F1 either.

Monster Truck Racing? Nope.

Gotta be one in NASCAR, those fuckers all love V8's.... Zip zilch zero nada

Indycar? No

Formula Ford series? Shocking... No Camaro.

I think I'm starting to see a pattern.

GTOs are Holdens. Have you watched any V8 Supercar races?

Indeed I have. And GTO's are not Holdens, GTO's are like Holdens but have a pussy-ass suspension installed because God-forbid some dumb redneck experiences any G-force while cornering.

Which is why every American car comes from the factory with a bench seat standard.

These facts are indisputible.

[David88vert]

I've never heard of them, so they aren't that well known... But it is further proof that Google can truly find anything.

Actually, a friend of mine has their stuff on his racecar, and I'va actually had it out on the track. They also advertise in a lot of mazagines, so I didn't need Google. You do realize that there are a lot of race series out there for Mustangs, right?

So if you had to drive an '85 Corvette or a '85 Civic, both with 200,000 miles on the clock, to San Fransisco tonight with zero breakdowns because your life depended on it... Which would you choose?

Neither, I would buy a plane ticket. In the hypothetical event that all planes were grounded, a train ticket would be next. If no trains, I'd drive one of the multiple cars that I own - and it wouldn't be my V8 Mustang - that car has left me stranded before AND it eats too much gas. :-) I know you like that answer.

Really? Like WRC? Uh... No....

Grand-Am

... And GTO's are not Holdens, GTO's are like Holdens but have a pussy-ass suspension installed because God-forbid some dumb redneck experiences any G-force while cornering.

I've bene able to take the GTO around corners decently. It's not the best handling car, but I don't have the understeer that I get from FWD econoboxes.

Which is why every American car comes from the factory with a bench seat standard.

These facts are indisputible.

Really? I can dispute it quite easily - look at the options for American cars - you won't find bench seat for Mustangs, Camaros, Corvettes, etc. You might find them for some old luxury cars, but even those are not common.
Seems like the last American car you were in was probably built in the 60s or 70s.

[Echonova]

Seems like the last American car you were in was probably built in the 60s or 70s.

They've changed?

Live axles?... Still there
Thirsty, Asthmatic engines... Still there
Modern Styling?... Nope, in fact they've gone backwards because they couldn't think of any new shit.
The bench seat I already told you was indisputable, so why dispute it?
Ugly interiors that were made by bean counters and not designers... Check
Ditto for the cheap interior switches and handles made in China by child slave labor and painted with Mercury based paint... Yep

Here are the facts. Fact: Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Kia, Mercedes, BMW and others are made in America.

Fact: Ford cars are made in Mexico and half of the cars built contain illegal aliens stashed in the trunk when they ship them across the border.

Fact: GM (owned by our government) just announced their next plant will be made in Mexico as well. Because if you're going to build a crappy car, you might as well do it cheap.

Fact: Honda does not give their workers Meth on their lunch break like American car companies do.

Fact: I just farted

Fact: The metric system is just better.

Fact: The Mustang is a pony car... Not a Muscle car. It was built for secretaries to drive.

Fact: The movie Transformers wasn't really that good at all, but Micheal Bay directed it so it had lots of shit blow up. Which always solves gaping holes in a plot.

[David88vert]

They've changed?

Live axles?... Still there
Thirsty, Asthmatic engines... Still there
Modern Styling?... Nope, in fact they've gone backwards because they couldn't think of any new shit.
The bench seat I already told you was indisputable, so why dispute it?
Ugly interiors that were made by bean counters and not designers... Check
Ditto for the cheap interior switches and handles made in China by child slave labor and painted with Mercury based paint... Yep

Here are the facts. Fact: Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Kia, Mercedes, BMW and others are made in America.

Fact: Ford cars are made in Mexico and half of the cars built contain illegal aliens stashed in the trunk when they ship them across the border.

Fact: GM (owned by our government) just announced their next plant will be made in Mexico as well. Because if you're going to build a crappy car, you might as well do it cheap.

Fact: Honda does not give their workers Meth on their lunch break like American car companies do.

Fact: I just farted

Fact: The metric system is just better.

Fact: The Mustang is a pony car... Not a Muscle car. It was built for secretaries to drive.

Fact: The movie Transformers wasn't really that good at all, but Micheal Bay directed it so it had lots of shit blow up. Which always solves gaping holes in a plot.

All true. You left out that all of the Japanese plants got swept away in the tsunami and now all of the new re-tooled plants will produce cars designed in America with materials from China.

[Echonova]

All true. You left out that all of the Japanese plants got swept away in the tsunami and now all of the new re-tooled plants will produce cars designed in America with materials from China.

Indeed they were swept away, but fortunately the Japanese are a crafty bunch and that is merely a temporarily inconvenience. They'll have all the factories rebuilt before we finish the "Freedom tower"...

[alpine_aw11]

Agreed, the MPG argument is dumb...

And somehow the V8 nut-swinging, jizz gargling, turd burglars have manged to make this a debate about only being faster in a straight line for 1/8 or a 1/4 mile.

A fact which is only exceeded in sheer stupidity that the much more dumber Honda guys would argue that. (yes, I did "much more dumber" on purpose)

But because I'm sure somebody, somewhere has a fully built Mustang race car and used exotic metals, like Aluminum instead of the standard 3 inch thick steel (yes Aluminum is an exotic metal to V8 guys, not as exotic as BILLET though... BILLET, man) on the hood/doors/roof/trunk to make it lighter, with some modified knuckles so you can actually turn the steering wheel to the left AND the right, and forced that pig to go around a racetrack against it's will, and posted a Youtube video of it... That one singular video will be posted here as proof that ALL V8 musclecars handle like a Lotus Extige on R compound tires.

This argument has been going on for years and it will continue to get dumber every time.