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We definitely disagree, as that definition puts every street car that ever rolled off the line as a racecar, if it runs just once.
By that definition, any car that is on track in a race - even just once - is a race car. Basically, a bonestock VW diesel that enters a bracket race on Saturday afternoon at Commerce, is still a race car. Even though it would do 22-23 seconds.
Any stock Kia that is entered in a track day event that participates in a lunch time race would be a racecar.
A lawnmower could be considered a race car if it was on a track even - and only doing your 10mph.

To me, those are just street cars that are being enjoyed, but not race cars. As an example, my old RX7 (GSL-SE, not the FD) was caged, built suspension, motor, etc, and I did not consider it to be a racecar. It was just a street car that saw some occasional track time.

Ultimately, as long as you enjoy the car, that is all that matters though. If you want to consider it to be a racecar, that is up to you.

Drag racing and road racing...HUGE difference. I'm ONLY talking about road course cars. Did your RX-7 have a logbook? If not, then of course it wasn't a race car. Time trials is not racing. I'm talking about RACING, wheel to wheel racing, not against the clock. As those are all competitive forms of motorsport, there is a difference there. Just about anyone can bring anything and do drag racing or time trials.

The difference in your RX-7 and my car is that my car was built to be a race car, that was its sole purpose in life, nothing more. It has everything needed to race, it's been raced, that's all there is to it.

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Drag racing and road racing...HUGE difference. I'm ONLY talking about road course cars. Did your RX-7 have a logbook? If not, then of course it wasn't a race car. Time trials is not racing. I'm talking about RACING, wheel to wheel racing, not against the clock. As those are all competitive forms of motorsport, there is a difference there. Just about anyone can bring anything and do drag racing or time trials.

The difference in your RX-7 and my car is that my car was built to be a race car, that was its sole purpose in life, nothing more. It has everything needed to race, it's been raced, that's all there is to it.

So drag racing, and time trials aren't racing? So the cars used for them aren't racecars? Your stock Neon is more of a racecar that a Pikes Peaks hillclimber?
I guess that my old tube chassis, sheet metal body, dirt tracker wasn't a race car, as we didn't keep a log book, and it wasn't on a paved road course - even though I ran it door-todoor multiple seasons on the track when I was younger than you are now. Granted, it looked way worse than your Neon, and didn't turn except with the throttle.