Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
Improved Touring is just a regional class, not a national one.
Your car was not built to be a racecar - it was simply a street car that parts were left out of and marketed to those looking for a cheap way to enter SCCA. and that is fine. Most racecars that start off as street cars are just the same. But the fact remains that your chassis and suspension was not specifically engineered to be a racecar.
There is a big difference between an engineered 850bhp race car and a street car that has changed its intake, exhaust, coilovers, and brake pads - and still doesn't make 150rwhp. The cars in ITA appear to be either Neons, or 20 year old 100bhp cars. Of course, if you are running against a 25 year old 2002/RX7/Civic/etc with only 2/3s the hp that you have, you will have the advantage. If you are only running mid-pack with them, you are simply out doing a track day.
Now, I understand it is fun, and you like the car, that is fine. But you have been saying that a 240 with 400hp is rice, and a poor car, when in reality, the 240 appears to have a lot more going for it than a pretty much stock Neon. With an equal driver, it will lay down better laptimes on RA than your racecar will.
And yes, you can race a Neon for a lot less than renting a racecar. I understand that, and agree that it is a good starter platform for SCCA racing. I'm not saying that it is a bad car. I just don't see where you have the grounds to be dogging on another person's car like you have been.
Now, if you just don't like the driver, that's a different story.
I know IT is regional, what does that matter? I never said I preferred to run national over regional. STU is also a way for IT cars to run at national events. There were actually quite a few ITA cars running STU at the Runoffs this year.

The ACR was built to be a race car. There is a reason it came stock with race suspension and the first ones released you had to be an SCCA member to buy one. The ACR is an icon in the road racing world, it pissed a lot of people off in its time.

As for IT being slow, that's not true at all. An ITA Miata ran a 1:40 at this past ARRC at Road Atlanta. ITA is a very competitive class, it's also not a bunch of old cars running. ITA consits of ACR Neons, GSRs, Miatas, Civic SIs, SE-R Sentras and NX2000, etc. Like I said, a 1:40 is not slow.

Like I said, the 240 owner came in here when and completely acted a dick. For no reason and accused me of claiming things that I don't. I've complimented his car before, it doesn't even look bad, but he came in here being clueless. As for him around the track and I, you seem pretty sure he can out run me, I highly doubt it. He doesn't do road course events and HP isn't all that matters, the only place HP matters at Road Atlanta is the back straight and front straight, which both are long yeah and a good driver in a fast car easily gets by, but.....

Quote Originally Posted by badassf4i View Post
For sinfix and simmon,sinfix why don't you two go at it on two different tracks get your 240 prepared for what simmon likes to do(road racing) see who comes out on top,then go to the 1/4 miles track and see who comes out on top..
And if you all are not satisfied with the outcome, we will go back to the drawing board..you all may not care about this post at all, just throwing it out there haha
Who has a faster car has not been the discussion of this thread. lol He would rape me at a drag strip. Nobody can argue that.