Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
It's not stock, it's modified beyond its Showroom Stock days.

If every car was 250HP that ran STU then you're right it wouldn't be mid pack. Did I say mid pack in STU though or ITA? H Production requires a lot more modification, more than STU in fact, so that makes no sense. Why are you leaving out Improved Touring which Neons do very well in? It can't run SSC anymore, it's a 97 and like I said, I'd have to put it back stock and that would be a waste of time.

Either way, a 10HP race car is a race car just as much as a 850HP car is a race car. It was built with one purpose and that is to race.

I don't get why this is such a problem to you all? I bought it because I got a KILLER deal on it, it's exactly what I was looking for to fit my wallet, it's a blast to drive, and it's CHEAP to fix, a whole other Neon is what $400? lol I'm not bragging that I own a race car, obviously it's not as cool as a GT car or something, obviously it's not as fast, obviously it's not as die hard. If I wanted to impress I sure as hell wouldn't buy a Neon. It's what I want. Plus it's not the only car I can drive either, but there is a plus in owning a race car versus renting.
Improved Touring is just a regional class, not a national one.
Your car was not built to be a racecar - it was simply a street car that parts were left out of and marketed to those looking for a cheap way to enter SCCA. and that is fine. Most racecars that start off as street cars are just the same. But the fact remains that your chassis and suspension was not specifically engineered to be a racecar.
There is a big difference between an engineered 850bhp race car and a street car that has changed its intake, exhaust, coilovers, and brake pads - and still doesn't make 150rwhp. The cars in ITA appear to be either Neons, or 20 year old 100bhp cars. Of course, if you are running against a 25 year old 2002/RX7/Civic/etc with only 2/3s the hp that you have, you will have the advantage. If you are only running mid-pack with them, you are simply out doing a track day.
Now, I understand it is fun, and you like the car, that is fine. But you have been saying that a 240 with 400hp is rice, and a poor car, when in reality, the 240 appears to have a lot more going for it than a pretty much stock Neon. With an equal driver, it will lay down better laptimes on RA than your racecar will.
And yes, you can race a Neon for a lot less than renting a racecar. I understand that, and agree that it is a good starter platform for SCCA racing. I'm not saying that it is a bad car. I just don't see where you have the grounds to be dogging on another person's car like you have been.
Now, if you just don't like the driver, that's a different story.