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    Quote Originally Posted by AirMax95 View Post
    I know where you are coming from. I can 1000000% guarantee you that there are several members that are looking in awe as well. Individuals will always have their own personal agenda and use it to destroy a good thing.

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    Honest question. Doesn't a NAACP defeat the purpose of what great black leaders set out to do with the Civil Rights Movement in the first place? I thought the whole point was that race doesn't matter. By having an asssociation of "colored" people don't you propegate division between races? Why can't the NAACP do all the same good things it currently does without having to bring race into the picture. If the NAACP truly wants to end racism then they should change their name at the very least. I feel the same way about affirmitive action. Are you really gaining equality if we set the bar higher or lower because of someone's race? How do unequal standards promote equality? This has always baffeled me not because I am a racist but because I truly think minorities are vastly more capable than our society gives them credit for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capt._Ron View Post
    Honest question. Doesn't a NAACP defeat the purpose of what great black leaders set out to do with the Civil Rights Movement in the first place? I thought the whole point was that race doesn't matter. By having an asssociation of "colored" people don't you propegate division between races? Why can't the NAACP do all the same good things it currently does without having to bring race into the picture. If the NAACP truly wants to end racism then they should change their name at the very least. I feel the same way about affirmitive action. Are you really gaining equality if we set the bar higher or lower because of someone's race? How do unequal standards promote equality? This has always baffeled me not because I am a racist but because I truly think minorities are vastly more capable than our society gives them credit for.
    It goes back to the origin of the organization. Back then, "colored people" was the "politically correct" term. Some years back the NAACP talked about changing the name, but sided not to because it would, in a sense, negate the history behind the organization. You have to remember, white people set the tone of "white" or "coloreds". Changing the name would do nothing....same people, same agenda, same purpose, AND the same occurrences you see in the link above. In closing on this topic, research the ideology of racism, segregation, and then review the purpose of the NAACP. Hopefully, you will see the need, despite the random wolf cries; no one person or organization is perfect.

    Affirmative action is a whole different animal. It wasn't put in place to "GIVE" the promotion to minorities (women included) in the workplace, rather for a change in mindset to those in power that still felt minorities were "beneath" them.

    Seriously, a lot of the ignorant rants and arguments of today are because people do not take into account the history behind several of these initiatives.

    Also, to your last comment, SOCIETY was the reason for affirmative action/NAACP/etc. because they didn't (in many cases still do not) give minorities the credit, or respect, they deserve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirMax95 View Post
    It goes back to the origin of the organization. Back then, "colored people" was the "politically correct" term. Some years back the NAACP talked about changing the name, but sided not to because it would, in a sense, negate the history behind the organization. You have to remember, white people set the tone of "white" or "coloreds". Changing the name would do nothing....same people, same agenda, same purpose, AND the same occurrences you see in the link above. In closing on this topic, research the ideology of racism, segregation, and then review the purpose of the NAACP. Hopefully, you will see the need, despite the random wolf cries; no one person or organization is perfect.

    Affirmative action is a whole different animal. It wasn't put in place to "GIVE" the promotion to minorities (women included) in the workplace, rather for a change in mindset to those in power that still felt minorities were "beneath" them.

    Seriously, a lot of the ignorant rants and arguments of today are because people do not take into account the history behind several of these initiatives.

    Also, to your last comment, SOCIETY was the reason for affirmative action/NAACP/etc. because they didn't (in many cases still do not) give minorities the credit, or respect, they deserve.
    I think most people understand the history and reason for the NAACP and Affirmative Action. I at least know I understand the history and reason for these programs/history. I ask my questions not as an "ignorant rant" because I'm not ignorant of the history behind these initiatives. The information on these initiatives is a very well published and researched topic. Your response still doesn't get to the core of my question. How does an association that purposefully ties itself to a single race promote cooperation and integration between all races? It doesn't matter the name you use for someones race if the goal of that association is to promote the (agenda, purpose, etc.) of only one race.

    On the affirmative action standpoint: How can you change a mindset when the law clearly denigrates minorities by saying "oh because he/she is ______ they are held to a lower standard". How does setting lower goals for minority achievement promote equality?

    I'm not denying that racism existed and still exists. I'm asking why not hold everyone to the same standard regarless of race? Isn't that equality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capt._Ron View Post
    How does an association that purposefully ties itself to a single race promote cooperation and integration between all races?
    Because, unfortunately, there still plenty of idiot white people that think black folks don't belong among them.

    And I don't like affirmative action, myself. Later, QD..
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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodge® View Post
    Because, unfortunately, there still plenty of idiot white people that think black folks don't belong among them.

    And I don't like affirmative action, myself. Later, QD..
    I agree QD, however, there are just as many idiots who use the race card thinking they earned some special right because of their color, same as some whites do. And it isn't just blacks or any specific race. People, in mass, are stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capt._Ron View Post
    I think most people understand the history and reason for the NAACP and Affirmative Action. I at least know I understand the history and reason for these programs/history. I ask my questions not as an "ignorant rant" because I'm not ignorant of the history behind these initiatives. The information on these initiatives is a very well published and researched topic. Your response still doesn't get to the core of my question. How does an association that purposefully ties itself to a single race promote cooperation and integration between all races? It doesn't matter the name you use for someones race if the goal of that association is to promote the (agenda, purpose, etc.) of only one race.

    On the affirmative action standpoint: How can you change a mindset when the law clearly denigrates minorities by saying "oh because he/she is ______ they are held to a lower standard". How does setting lower goals for minority achievement promote equality?

    I'm not denying that racism existed and still exists. I'm asking why not hold everyone to the same standard regarless of race? Isn't that equality?
    Sorry dude, I wasn't calling your response ignorant. I was referring to the many discussions about the topic. QD's response sums up why affirmative action is still around. I don't believe in it, nor do I feel I (personally) benefit from it.

    To answer your question, just becuase the organization is "tied" to a single race, does not mean that it cannot promote equality. The mission of the org is to "ensure the political, educational, social, and economic equality of rights of all persons and to eliminate racial hatred and racial discrimination". The mission is upheld all the time, sadly most of the racial issues do affect "colored" people (all that is not "white"). I'm not saying that it is the best organization out there, but the positives outweigh the negatives. If the name is the biggest issue that many see, then there a lot of eyes closed to the real issues at hand. Is the name offensive to people?

    *SN*
    The NAACP does help other minorities, as well as the majority. As with all positive acts by an organization, they are overshadowed by things of this nature. On another note, all 5 scholarships that the NAACP has are open to ANY applicant.

    As others have stated, the people in that video are supporting their own bullshit.....its dumb and a waste of time.

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