Fuck Cops...Really.

[Elbow]

I just wanted to say fuck cops. They don't do SHIT about anything important, they spend more time sitting on the side of the road writing tickets for going ten over than they do worrying about real crime.

Get off your lazy low life ass and do something for the people. I could care less if a truck passes me speeding. As he's speeding someone is raping a girl or robbing someone at gunpoint. Oh and when you call them they don't come until it's convenient.

Step your game up you ex-hallway patrol officers.

[punkr6]

oh lord, this could get ugly fast....

[Elbow]

I'm going to go become a cop so I can fuck all the officers in the ass and handle it all myself.

[punkr6]

I'm going to go become a cop so I can fuck all the officers in the ass and handle it all myself.

I think you would make a good one. you have the build for it...

[Elbow]

I think you would make a good one. you have the build for it...

Not now, I lost 20lbs in the past two weeks and I'm not stopping. I'm going for the Ethiopian look.

[punkr6]

Not now, I lost 20lbs in the past two weeks and I'm not stopping. I'm going for the Ethiopian look.

I love skinny girls....

[Elbow]

I love skinny girls....

Good. Lets meet up in a month or so and you can shiver my timbers.

[bowdown201]

I love skinny girls....

hahahaha

[bdydrpdmazda]

I love skinny girls....

motherfucking lol...

[Echonova]

[The Creeper]

Cops enforce the law. Speeding is against the law.... I don't see where the confusion is. Also, it is hard for any cop to find a rape in progress, or a murder in progress. And lastly, it's not the police officers fault on the time frame they can get to a crime scene....We don't have the tax dollars to have 398734573458743975354857394 cops running around. Quit bitching.

[Shift_2WIN]

Cops enforce the law. Speeding is against the law.... I don't see where the confusion is. Also, it is hard for any cop to find a rape in progress, or a murder in progress. And lastly, it's not the police officers fault on the time frame they can get to a crime scene....We don't have the tax dollars to have 398734573458743975354857394 cops running around. Quit bitching.

Then they need to police themselves, b/c they are always speeding (like 90+) for no reason, and always cutting people off just to catch a speeder. I hardly think 1 speeder is worth risking a serious accident over. But yes speeding is illegal. The answer to that is to not get caught.

[blaknoize]

Cops enforce the law. Speeding is against the law.... I don't see where the confusion is.

Um excuse me, excuse me. But cops are able to catch a speeder in progress since they just hang out on the freeway with nothing better to do. Cops can also hang around long enough to find a reason to pull over someone and investigate them and their car for whatever reason.

So tell me why an officer cannot hang in an obvious suspect neighborhood and just watch, have presense in a neighborhood that is known for and obviously notorious for being a haven for say, drugs, or rape or trafficking and the like? Why cant an officer just be there, or be 5 deep in an area like they do in Cleveland, TN on I-75 S/N or in the construction exit/entrance of I-75 S/N just outside Chattanooga, TN on I-285 at the Gwinnett CO line?

They can have all the tech and man-power to hassle travelers like myself, but they cant handle the hustle in a neighborhood. Bullshit

[BanginJimmy]

Um excuse me, excuse me. But cops are able to catch a speeder in progress since they just hang out on the freeway with nothing better to do. Cops can also hang around long enough to find a reason to pull over someone and investigate them and their car for whatever reason.

So tell me why an officer cannot hang in an obvious suspect neighborhood and just watch, have presense in a neighborhood that is known for and obviously notorious for being a haven for say, drugs, or rape or trafficking and the like? Why cant an officer just be there, or be 5 deep in an area like they do in Cleveland, TN on I-75 S/N or in the construction exit/entrance of I-75 S/N just outside Chattanooga, TN on I-285 at the Gwinnett CO line?

They can have all the tech and man-power to hassle travelers like myself, but they cant handle the hustle in a neighborhood. Bullshit

One problem with your theory.

Say the cops triple the patrols in a low income, majority black neighborhood. How long do you think it will take for Sharpton and Jackson to be on the news saying the cops are being racist and profiling because they arent patrolling and hanging out in the white neighborhoods too?

[blaknoize]

One problem with your theory.

Say the cops triple the patrols in a low income, majority black neighborhood. How long do you think it will take for Sharpton and Jackson to be on the news saying the cops are being racist and profiling because they arent patrolling and hanging out in the white neighborhoods too?

This isnt about patrol, this is about cop presence. This is to deter the hustle and violence in a neighborhood that is known-bad. All the man-power and gas wasted picking off casual speeders could be pulled to remove actual murderers and rapist and hustlers from streets. Whether ghetto or mid to upper level criminals of all types.

U talk about race like it was even an issue in this. Sharpton and Jackson dont talk solely about the "low-income" areas and you should know that you dont see cops patroling the white or light-skinned neighborhoods, just to patrol. My first apartment was in a "ghetto/low income area) and was pulled over many times and they patrol hardcore all day and night, but since I've moved up north (northern COL) I dont see any officers in my neighborhood unless called upon and respond in a reasonable amount of time.

[Elbow]

I'm just saying they need to focus on catching real criminals. I never said they could catch anyone but placing themselves in known places where crime happens and such helps, response can be up to them, if a cop is patrolling traffic and a call comes in...they could leave.

A neighbor was in desperate need of help once and I had to CALL TWICE to get the police there. The operator said they had four calls and they were coming, but I asked why so long, where are they? Lazy fucks. It took forty minutes to get there. The only time I've seen a cop come fast is when I mentioned "gun."

[punkr6]

The only time I've seen a cop come fast is when I mentioned "gun."

nothing is stopping you from doing that every time....

[BanginJimmy]

nothing is stopping you from doing that every time....

except filing a false report, which is what you are doing when you call.



Police response times suck, its a simple fact of life. It isnt going to ever change and it is rarely the individual cop's fault. It is mostly dispatch's fault. More times than not though a call is just going to be put at the end of the line unless there is cause to believe there is a risk to someone's life or the crime is in process.


I feel your pain on cops hauling ass with no lights or siren, but you can blame that on the dumb ass laws of this state. In many cases they are not allowed to use lights and siren.

[5speed]

except filing a false report, which is what you are doing when you call.



Police response times suck, its a simple fact of life. It isnt going to ever change and it is rarely the individual cop's fault. It is mostly dispatch's fault. More times than not though a call is just going to be put at the end of the line unless there is cause to believe there is a risk to someone's life or the crime is in process.


I feel your pain on cops hauling ass with no lights or siren, but you can blame that on the dumb ass laws of this state. In many cases they are not allowed to use lights and siren.

I have personally spent time in the dispatch and can say for a fact it is often the officers fault.

[BanginJimmy]

I have personally spent time in the dispatch and can say for a fact it is often the officers fault.

as have I in Paulding county and Villa Rica. In not a single case was there a non-emergency call that was immediately dispatched. They sat on a desk and waited for an officer to radio in that the call he was on was completed.

[punkr6]

except filing a false report, which is what you are doing when you call.
.

Na, just say you thought you seen one....

[00Civic]

there are good cops and bad cops...

I say fuck the bad ones. They're a bunch of faggatory fucks.

[DynamicSound]

LOL, reminds me when I was a manager at Taco Bell when I was a teen. We would have issue and need assistance getting people of the property. We would call the police and they would take 30 minutes to 2 hours to arrive. After that, I would hit the silent burglary alarm and they would be there in 10 minutes. Of coarse they were pissed...but they were there.

[00Civic]

LOL, reminds me when I was a manager at Taco Bell when I was a teen. We would have issue and need assistance getting people of the property. We would call the police and they would take 30 minutes to 2 hours to arrive. After that, I would hit the silent burglary alarm and they would be there in 10 minutes. Of coarse they were pissed...but they were there.

sounds like something i'd do next time

[BanginJimmy]

LOL, reminds me when I was a manager at Taco Bell when I was a teen. We would have issue and need assistance getting people of the property. We would call the police and they would take 30 minutes to 2 hours to arrive. After that, I would hit the silent burglary alarm and they would be there in 10 minutes. Of coarse they were pissed...but they were there.

And as you probably know, when you did that, the McD's manager with the same non-emergency as you had had to wait another half hour.

[2bsideways]

I know im a noob here but i have been reading this awesome conversation. In my opinion there are NO good cops. Keeping in mind that they are just like us they put their pants on one leg at a time. Human like us with the urge to abuse this so called power we as socieity give them. Here in Chattanooga i have made a criminal carreer over driving because the police have nothing better to do, when i was 17, 18 hell even 19 i was a stupid speeder like 100 plus every where i went. The only time i was ever tagged was when i was going like 5 over or running a stop sign.
Here the ghetto is filled with drug dealers who sell drugs to kids KIDS!!!!! i witnessed a child maybe 11 yrs old purchase weed from his local weed man. My x girl trashed my stuff at my apartment called me and the cops then convenced them it was my friends that did it ater telling me and 2 other officers that it was 2 random guys. The job is to protect and serve not to make people scared to call you in the event of an actual emergency......Danger is in the job description ya dont want to be shot dont be a cop.

[2bsideways]

While the odds of catching a rapist or murderer are slim to none compared to anything it does not take the entire police force to catch a drunk......they seem to make them selves pretty visible. A friend of mine went for a "ride along" with a cop which is something any one can do and he told me the cop pulled people over for anything he could think of just to look for drugs. some may be doing there job...but most are just abusing the perks of it and the bad cops far out weigh the good cops

[The Ninja]

I know im a noob here but i have been reading this awesome conversation. In my opinion there are NO good cops. Keeping in mind that they are just like us they put their pants on one leg at a time. Human like us with the urge to abuse this so called power we as socieity give them. Here in Chattanooga i have made a criminal carreer over driving because the police have nothing better to do, when i was 17, 18 hell even 19 i was a stupid speeder like 100 plus every where i went. The only time i was ever tagged was when i was going like 5 over or running a stop sign.
Here the ghetto is filled with drug dealers who sell drugs to kids KIDS!!!!! i witnessed a child maybe 11 yrs old purchase weed from his local weed man. My x girl trashed my stuff at my apartment called me and the cops then convenced them it was my friends that did it ater telling me and 2 other officers that it was 2 random guys. The job is to protect and serve not to make people scared to call you in the event of an actual emergency......Danger is in the job description ya dont want to be shot dont be a cop.

Quoted just so you can't retract this retarded ass post. It hurt my head reading that mess.

[tdurr]

^^^^ if its a known bad area, then they wont be there. dont play the race card. Now if the cops were just pulling random people off the streets and harassing them then it would be handled as racism.


aslo, ive noticed that the white neighborhoods are considered "gated neighborhoods" were cops arnt able to patrol. they can only enter when they are called.

[The Ninja]

I just wanted to say fuck cops. They don't do SHIT about anything important, they spend more time sitting on the side of the road writing tickets for going ten over than they do worrying about real crime.

Get off your lazy low life ass and do something for the people. I could care less if a truck passes me speeding. As he's speeding someone is raping a girl or robbing someone at gunpoint. Oh and when you call them they don't come until it's convenient.

Step your game up you ex-hallway patrol officers.

A) Just because they caught you speeding, or you see someone get caught speeding doesn't mean he wasted his whole day to catch that one or few people speeding.

B) The Creeper is right; its terribly hard to actually catch a rape/murder/etc in progress as those are crimes not committed by a lot of people (relative to the population), as well as not being a "profitable" crime.

C) I don't like the majority of comes, and I assume they're all assholes unless proven otherwise; the same way they seem to assume I'm a criminal unless proven otherwise.

[Elbow]

They've never caught me speeding I have ZERO traffic tickets.

I never said they could catch it in the act, I'm speaking of response time and where they place themselves. It's been well discussed in here how they could show presence where real crime is and not where a simple speeder is.

Traffic safety is important but it doesn't take ALL the officers and hours of sitting and waiting for that one speeder.

Yesterday my girlfriends co-worker was robbed in their work parking lot, in the morning, in daylight. Two men walked up to her as she got out of her car and made her give over her purse and they left...on foot...on the sidewalk. She called the police and they showed up TWO HOURS later. If they would of came when she called they could of at LEAST scouted the neighborhoods around the business for the men described. Now those people are still out and WILL rob someone else. They could of snatched HER, beat her, there is no telling.

I have so many examples of events like that where the police really don't do a thing. It's bad when you have to sometimes call twice and yell at the people to make them do anything.

Officers simply showing presence in a known crime area WILL lower SOME of the crime. If it doesn't, there response time SHOULD be improved.

[Dirty Octopus™]

you must be a black.

[Elbow]

you must be a black.

No, defiantly white. Don't be a retard.

[Dirty Octopus™]

No, defiantly white. Don't be a retard.

how am i a retard cuz i thought you were a black? i mean... im a black and i hate cops too. i figured we had some things in common. ive never met you so i cant know to know that you're definetely white. you white.

[David88vert]

Here are the facts.

If they arrest someone for a serious crime, and have to lock them up, it cost money.
If they ticket someone who makes a decent living, and he pays it, they make money.

Which do you think they are most interested it?

Why do you think that they prefer to take robbery reports over the phone now, and don't want to show up to dust for fingerprints when they are obviously there? I had that happen once many years ago. According to the cops, they never could solve it, and did not want the fingerprints left on the scene - and we knew that they were of the criminal. I found the person who broke in 4 days - and it was a random person who I did not know. I am not a detective, so why was I able to do a much better job than those trained and paid to solve these crimes? The reason is simple. I put in reasonable effort, and they were too lazy to do it - it doesn't have any financial gain for the department.

[blaknoize]

Here are the facts.

If they arrest someone for a serious crime, and have to lock them up, it cost money.
If they ticket someone who makes a decent living, and he pays it, they make money.

Which do you think they are most interested it?

Why do you think that they prefer to take robbery reports over the phone now, and don't want to show up to dust for fingerprints when they are obviously there? I had that happen once many years ago. According to the cops, they never could solve it, and did not want the fingerprints left on the scene - and we knew that they were of the criminal. I found the person who broke in 4 days - and it was a random person who I did not know. I am not a detective, so why was I able to do a much better job than those trained and paid to solve these crimes? The reason is simple. I put in reasonable effort, and they were too lazy to do it - it doesn't have any financial gain for the department.

It's almost like your giving them an excuse. If you or I were speeding to get too work to make money for our homes and got pulled over and ended up late for work due to them wondering why I'm carrying say... 60 in a 45. We all know and they all know when most people travel to and from work. They wait.... and wait... some even wait hours to catch the few people whom are behind schedule for whatever reason. Just to make $$?

If it was such a problem with the cost of jailing people then how or why in the world is there such a large and exploding population of jailed individuals? Stop trying to cover it with money. There are many other things our tax dollars could be going to instead of to the gas tanks of wasteful large luxury sedans.

[David88vert]

It's almost like your giving them an excuse. If you or I were speeding to get too work to make money for our homes and got pulled over and ended up late for work due to them wondering why I'm carrying say... 60 in a 45. We all know and they all know when most people travel to and from work. They wait.... and wait... some even wait hours to catch the few people whom are behind schedule for whatever reason. Just to make $$?

If it was such a problem with the cost of jailing people then how or why in the world is there such a large and exploding population of jailed individuals? Stop trying to cover it with money. There are many other things our tax dollars could be going to instead of to the gas tanks of wasteful large luxury sedans.

Budget projections - learn how they work, and why they have estimation plans well in advance. It is about money. They order cars, construction of jails, etc. on budget projections. Then they have to pull in enough revenue to make those budgets. This is not the federal government. City, state, and counties, are supposted to not run a deficit - by law.
Tickets bring in a lot of revenue.

There are enough people committing crimes that require an arrest - that is why jails fill up. Look at their budgets though - guess where a large portion of the jails budget comes from.

[blaknoize]

Budget projections - learn how they work, and why they have estimation plans well in advance. It is about money. They order cars, construction of jails, etc. on budget projections. Then they have to pull in enough revenue to make those budgets. This is not the federal government. City, state, and counties, are supposted to not run a deficit - by law.
Tickets bring in a lot of revenue.

There are enough people committing crimes that require an arrest - that is why jails fill up. Look at their budgets though - guess where a large portion of the jails budget comes from.

Budgeting on a projection, maybe if the businesses budgeted within reason there wouldnt be such a hustle to make $$ to meet the projection and dragging everyone else along for there projected income mark. Meeting a "quota" for the day to satisfy greed for which juristiction has the best rides and facilities has nothing to do with paying top $ to a force that clears the streets of real criminals.

Speeding is speeding, but filling up the jail house with innocent drivers does not help a community. Do u not drive in certain areas of your city, in the subburbs or those small, random towns that EVERYONE slows for, because the traffic cops are oppressive but in the actual town/city itself is riddeled with drugs and violence?

I've lived in one of those and also used to commute through one of those. Particularly Hanging Rock, OH: check the links HERE"It is regularly labeled a speed trap as the state auditor reported $109,186 in mayor's court receipts in 2000 compared with $3,106 in property taxes",

HERE this is one example. Or South Bloomfield signage discrepancy HERE When these areas are riddeled with drugs and sex crimes, violence and the like that I've been around most of my life.

So dont give me that little kid stuff about bugeting, they'd rather take the easy route and make $$ than to "protect and serve."

This does not even include the $$ they can SPEND on using marked roadways to enforce speed limits via aircraft. Come on man, all the $$$ we push into enforcement comes out as a display of prowless whether than protection. I'll add one more example near the area I live now:

RIGHT HERE the lovely world of Westerville, albeit this isnt a drug ridden area (its actually wealthy, very wealthy) the cops are oppressive here to. Like following me into work because the officer failed to check my front plate fast enough, so he decided it was fine to follow me, pull me over in my parking spot outside the office and hold me in my car till he verified.

[Elbow]

Budgeting on a projection, maybe if the businesses budgeted within reason there wouldnt be such a hustle to make $$ to meet the projection and dragging everyone else along for there projected income mark. Meeting a "quota" for the day to satisfy greed for which juristiction has the best rides and facilities has nothing to do with paying top $ to a force that clears the streets of real criminals.

Speeding is speeding, but filling up the jail house with innocent drivers does not help a community. Do u not drive in certain areas of your city, in the subburbs or those small, random towns that EVERYONE slows for, because the traffic cops are oppressive but in the actual town/city itself is riddeled with drugs and violence?

I've lived in one of those and also used to commute through one of those. Particularly Hanging Rock, OH: check the links HERE"It is regularly labeled a speed trap as the state auditor reported $109,186 in mayor's court receipts in 2000 compared with $3,106 in property taxes",

HERE this is one example. Or South Bloomfield signage discrepancy HERE When these areas are riddeled with drugs and sex crimes, violence and the like that I've been around most of my life.

So dont give me that little kid stuff about bugeting, they'd rather take the easy route and make $$ than to "protect and serve."

Yep.

[David88vert]

Budgeting on a projection, ...

Here is a very pro-cop article that backs up with a study, exactly how they have a minimum amount of citations that they are to write each shift.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...g=content;col1

Remember - this is a pro-cop article which is biased for them. Even then it focuses on revenue.

To all others - I have no problem with cops writing tickets, but don't kid yourself - they are not doing it because they get a warm and fuzzy feeling "to protect and to serve". They are writing tickets because they are told to by their superiors. Do you really think that the departments could get their funding from the city/county/etc general fund, if they weren't productive? If your a cop, ask the city manager how much revenue he expects to be generated through traffic enforcement this year, and how he arrived at his budget numbers.