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    Yep plenty of times, to much of a coward to go through with it.

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    Most people have. But only selfish motherfuckers do it!
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    OP should commit it......
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm-civic View Post
    OP should commit it......
    Along with the author of Post #4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silversol View Post
    Most people have. But only selfish motherfuckers do it!
    They aren't selfish. If they are going to kill themself then they aren't in the right state of mind anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MINI View Post
    They aren't selfish.
    They're selfish idiots. Later, QD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ View Post
    They're selfish idiots. Later, QD.
    How? Its selfish for someone to end their pain and suffering? Some say its selfish because of the burden and pain it puts on the family and friends...but at the same time, if a person was able to go to that length, then should not the family and friends have noticed? Or were they selfish in not noticing or caring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mach'N'U View Post
    How? Its selfish for someone to end their pain and suffering? Some say its selfish because of the burden and pain it puts on the family and friends...but at the same time, if a person was able to go to that length, then should not the family and friends have noticed? Or were they selfish in not noticing or caring?
    Really? So suicide is the families fault now or peoples fault for not noticing? It's selfish to leave family and friends like that and it's for the weak. NOTHING is worth killing yourself over. It's a harsh and extremely sad thing when one takes their own life from hardships in life and obviously they are having an EXTREMELY tough time. When someone is having that hard of a time friends and family may not be enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ View Post
    They're selfish idiots. Later, QD.
    No, a selfish idiot is one who has suffered little hardship and when something doesn't go as plan for them and they put a bullet in their head instead of riding it out. I'm talking about people who have always gotten the short end of the stick for decades of their lives.

    If you are mentally suffering for years upon years, how can that be selfish? After a while, what's going on in their mind is out of their or anyone else's hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    Really? So suicide is the families fault now or peoples fault for not noticing? It's selfish to leave family and friends like that and it's for the weak. NOTHING is worth killing yourself over. It's a harsh and extremely sad thing when one takes their own life from hardships in life and obviously they are having an EXTREMELY tough time. When someone is having that hard of a time friends and family may not be enough.
    Not arguing that its a good thing. It does put untold burden and hardships on the family and friends. Hell like a article I read once, interviewing someone who jumped from the Golden Gate bridge and managed to survive... he said "As soon as I let go of the bridge all my problems seemed fixable." Its true nothing is worth killing yourself over. But at the same time when someone gets to that break point, they are not in the correct state of mind. Which plays back to a family member or a friend should be able to notice. If someone has alot of friends and family that care, then in their mind, they see it as selfish that someone did not try to help them in their time of need. Deaming others as being selfish against them.

    To me its a two sided topic. Yes one side is a terrible outcome but on the other side, its selfish that no one noticed or did anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    Really? So suicide is the families fault now or peoples fault for not noticing? It's selfish to leave family and friends like that and it's for the weak. NOTHING is worth killing yourself over. It's a harsh and extremely sad thing when one takes their own life from hardships in life and obviously they are having an EXTREMELY tough time. When someone is having that hard of a time friends and family may not be enough.
    Nothing is worth killing yourself over, so you should live through mental torment for the rest of your life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MINI View Post
    No, a selfish idiot is one who has suffered little hardship and when something doesn't go as plan for them and they put a bullet in their head instead of riding it out. I'm talking about people who have always gotten the short end of the stick for decades of their lives.

    If you are mentally suffering for years upon years, how can that be selfish? After a while, what's going on in their mind is out of their or anyone else's hands.
    Agreed. People who kill themselves over one time recent events that went wrong, is selfish, and those that live hardships day in an day out and never catch a break or are never able to better things. Then thats someone who is so far gone and the views of reality for them are far warped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MINI View Post
    Nothing is worth killing yourself over, so you should live through mental torment for the rest of your life.
    Are you tempting suicide? You're supporting the fuck out of it.

    No you shouldn't live in torment either, you should fix problems. I agree ones who attempt it for stupid little things or do it knowing they won't die but craving attention and stuff are the true weaklings. I can truly imagine a case where life has been so hard for years that it could seem like the only way out. I still don't think it IS the way out though. You can fix any problem. Go to a doctor, find hobbies, move, take meds, etc. I know those don't help much if you're in that kind of state but a MAN will ride it out and keep high hopes. We've all been in shitty situations, we've had years of hardship, SHIT HAPPENS, only the strong will survive the hell called life.

    I agree family and friends can notice when someone is having major issues, BUT, when you get in that state not much from them will help you. In my experiences if they decide they're GOING to commit suicide then they're GOING to attempt it. Nothing you say or do can change that, you can get them help, but that's a MAJOR decision that gives them a solid state of mind and relief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mach'N'U View Post
    Agreed. People who kill themselves over one time recent events that went wrong, is selfish, and those that live hardships day in an day out and never catch a break or are never able to better things. Then thats someone who is so far gone and the views of reality for them are far warped.
    Exactly, humans can only handle so much stress. The human mind can break and have faults like anything else in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    Are you tempting suicide? You're supporting the fuck out of it.

    No you shouldn't live in torment either, you should fix problems. I agree ones who attempt it for stupid little things or do it knowing they won't die but craving attention and stuff are the true weaklings. I can truly imagine a case where life has been so hard for years that it could seem like the only way out. I still don't think it IS the way out though. You can fix any problem. Go to a doctor, find hobbies, move, take meds, etc. I know those don't help much if you're in that kind of state but a MAN will ride it out and keep high hopes. We've all been in shitty situations, we've had years of hardship, SHIT HAPPENS, only the strong will survive the hell called life.

    lol No I don't support it. There are just too many variables to assess suicidal people as a whole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    Are you tempting suicide? You're supporting the fuck out of it.

    No you shouldn't live in torment either, you should fix problems. I agree ones who attempt it for stupid little things or do it knowing they won't die but craving attention and stuff are the true weaklings. I can truly imagine a case where life has been so hard for years that it could seem like the only way out. I still don't think it IS the way out though. You can fix any problem. Go to a doctor, find hobbies, move, take meds, etc. I know those don't help much if you're in that kind of state but a MAN will ride it out and keep high hopes. We've all been in shitty situations, we've had years of hardship, SHIT HAPPENS, only the strong will survive the hell called life.
    To me this is a untouchable arguement from anyones stand point. No one has either attempted it and failed/survived. Only person that could shed light on the worst of the worst on this topic would be someone who has attempted and succeed, but kinda hard to reply for them. None of us could say what the views of a person would be that has had to go to that extreme over a life of hardship. Because a life of those hardships would twist someones perception of life that to them there is only one way out. To them they would have tried all solutions with no better outcome, no friends of family came to them in there time of need, medical side effects made things worst... to them it would be a never ending downward sprial.

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    i agree that nothing is worht taking your own life for, and only weak people commit suicide, but on the flip side i can see and understand why a person may feel like thats their only option, look at some homeless people, who have to sleep on the street in subzero temperatures, and get up not knowing where their next meal is coming from of if they're going to to live to see tomorrow, situations liek that could really fuck with you mentally, or someone whose forced to live crippled, blind ect for the rest of their life, when life comes at you hard and everyday your praying for better, but better never comes, it would make you start thinking about things in a different light. Again im am 100% against suicide, but i can see what drives people to do it... just me

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    This question is kinda of like is there a heaven/hell. The only people who can give you a 100% answer, can't give you an answer at all. I have been through some hard crap in my life as a kid and teenager,and it did cross my mind as a fix all solution. But on to the point I don't agree with it.
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    I dont think anything is worth doing it,I've never thought bout it. I've been dealing with my health for all my life and had a astma(sp) attack and died when I was 15,after seeing how fast you can be gone and leave everyone you love,I'd never even give it a thought and I dont see how others would.

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    I wouldnt feel sorry for anyone whos would do it !

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    Yeah, when I was younger I went through some hard times. Met my biological dad, two weeks later he killed himselft, blaming me in the letter. Ive had to deal with that daily, went through a nasty break up, at the same time, lost my scholarship at to go to UGA, and lost my job. All withing the same week. I took my .45 glock, loaded it, went down to the river, wrote a note to my family, and then I chickened out. Damn I am glad I did. I have a loving family, a good job, an awesome girl. Everything in my life is good. I haven't been this happy. I have no regrets in my actions that day, as it made me a better man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HypnoToad View Post
    I dont think anything is worth doing it,I've never thought bout it. I've been dealing with my health for all my life and had a astma(sp) attack and died when I was 15,after seeing how fast you can be gone and leave everyone you love,I'd never even give it a thought and I dont see how others would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double_0_Rusty View Post
    Yeah, when I was younger I went through some hard times. Met my biological dad, two weeks later he killed himselft, blaming me in the letter. Ive had to deal with that daily, went through a nasty break up, at the same time, lost my scholarship at to go to UGA, and lost my job. All withing the same week. I took my .45 glock, loaded it, went down to the river, wrote a note to my family, and then I chickened out. Damn I am glad I did. I have a loving family, a good job, an awesome girl. Everything in my life is good. I haven't been this happy. I have no regrets in my actions that day, as it made me a better man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ View Post
    They're selfish idiots. Later, QD.
    I think one about sums it up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slomaro Z28 View Post
    wow man.......wow.

    im at a loss of words. other than it being close to the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double_0_Rusty View Post
    wow man.......wow.

    im at a loss of words. other than it being close to the same thing.
    First thing that came to mind, thought I'd share.

    Did you watch the whole thing? Even the ending sounds like a similar situation.
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    why are people trying to justify suicide? thats just fucked up



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    Quote Originally Posted by Slomaro Z28 View Post
    dam thats a great video! really makes you think.

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    Maybe if i wanted to commit suicide, i just want to be in a happier place. I wanna be with god. I have made my choice in life and asked for forgiveness. Its not selfish at all. Family and friends are ignorant of the fact that you are in a better place. Pain and sorrow is a fleshy need. Sounds to me like the family and friends are selfish for not being happy their loved one is happy now. A Time of death (when its the proper time) should be celebrated. You wont go to hell by killing your self. Thats stupid. If you know you have your faith in God and know he is our Saviour, and want t be with him, and your flesh life is horrible, then well you know Heaven is a better place so why not be there?


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    Quote Originally Posted by MINI View Post
    No, a selfish idiot is one who has suffered little hardship and when something doesn't go as plan for them and they put a bullet in their head instead of riding it out. I'm talking about people who have always gotten the short end of the stick for decades of their lives.

    If you are mentally suffering for years upon years, how can that be selfish? After a while, what's going on in their mind is out of their or anyone else's hands.
    Mentally ill people, more often than not, don't even have the mental capacity to contemplate suicide.

    Then you have the moron whose life isn't going just as he planned so he offs himself. Complete selfishness. I lived on Peachtree Street for two years without a roof over my head. Never once did I think of that as an out.

    The vast majority of the people that do this are OF SOUND MIND and not mentally challenged. They live in a pity party world and think "boo-hoo, no one likes me" so they kill themselves.

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    Some of the comments in this thread are truly scary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slomaro Z28 View Post
    damn +1 to you sir........ powerful song

    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    Some of the comments in this thread are truly scary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ View Post
    Mentally ill people, more often than not, don't even have the mental capacity to contemplate suicide.

    Then you have the moron whose life isn't going just as he planned so he offs himself. Complete selfishness. I lived on Peachtree Street for two years without a roof over my head. Never once did I think of that as an out.

    The vast majority of the people that do this are OF SOUND MIND and not mentally challenged. They live in a pity party world and think "boo-hoo, no one likes me" so they kill themselves.

    Just plain stupid. Later, QD.
    This is exactly right. My co-worker's sister killed herself because she was bullied at school and she found no other way out. Mentally handicapped people usually can't understand what suicide is and it usually isn't taught what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm-civic View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by claybird View Post
    Maybe if i wanted to commit suicide, i just want to be in a happier place. I wanna be with god. I have made my choice in life and asked for forgiveness. Its not selfish at all. Family and friends are ignorant of the fact that you are in a better place. Pain and sorrow is a fleshy need. Sounds to me like the family and friends are selfish for not being happy their loved one is happy now. A Time of death (when its the proper time) should be celebrated. You wont go to hell by killing your self. Thats stupid. If you know you have your faith in God and know he is our Saviour, and want t be with him, and your flesh life is horrible, then well you know Heaven is a better place so why not be there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slomaro Z28 View Post
    First thing that came to mind, thought I'd share.

    Did you watch the whole thing? Even the ending sounds like a similar situation.

    Yeah man I watched it through. Good stuff.

    There is no way you can justify suicide, I am soooo fucking happy I didn't go through with my plans. I live a very happy life now, just through some dark times and alcohol abuse made me realize that everyday you wake up, you can change your future.
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    ok not for anyone who was thinkin their life is hard.... if this guy can live with a smile on his face, then anyone can make it

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    It has never even crossed my mind. Homicide, however...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantooth View Post
    It has never even crossed my mind. Homicide, however...
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