They're selfish idiots. Later, QD.Originally Posted by MINI
They're selfish idiots. Later, QD.
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How? Its selfish for someone to end their pain and suffering? Some say its selfish because of the burden and pain it puts on the family and friends...but at the same time, if a person was able to go to that length, then should not the family and friends have noticed? Or were they selfish in not noticing or caring?
Really? So suicide is the families fault now or peoples fault for not noticing? It's selfish to leave family and friends like that and it's for the weak. NOTHING is worth killing yourself over. It's a harsh and extremely sad thing when one takes their own life from hardships in life and obviously they are having an EXTREMELY tough time. When someone is having that hard of a time friends and family may not be enough.
Not arguing that its a good thing. It does put untold burden and hardships on the family and friends. Hell like a article I read once, interviewing someone who jumped from the Golden Gate bridge and managed to survive... he said "As soon as I let go of the bridge all my problems seemed fixable." Its true nothing is worth killing yourself over. But at the same time when someone gets to that break point, they are not in the correct state of mind. Which plays back to a family member or a friend should be able to notice. If someone has alot of friends and family that care, then in their mind, they see it as selfish that someone did not try to help them in their time of need. Deaming others as being selfish against them.
To me its a two sided topic. Yes one side is a terrible outcome but on the other side, its selfish that no one noticed or did anything.
Nothing is worth killing yourself over, so you should live through mental torment for the rest of your life.
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Are you tempting suicide? You're supporting the fuck out of it.
No you shouldn't live in torment either, you should fix problems. I agree ones who attempt it for stupid little things or do it knowing they won't die but craving attention and stuff are the true weaklings. I can truly imagine a case where life has been so hard for years that it could seem like the only way out. I still don't think it IS the way out though. You can fix any problem. Go to a doctor, find hobbies, move, take meds, etc. I know those don't help much if you're in that kind of state but a MAN will ride it out and keep high hopes. We've all been in shitty situations, we've had years of hardship, SHIT HAPPENS, only the strong will survive the hell called life.
I agree family and friends can notice when someone is having major issues, BUT, when you get in that state not much from them will help you. In my experiences if they decide they're GOING to commit suicide then they're GOING to attempt it. Nothing you say or do can change that, you can get them help, but that's a MAJOR decision that gives them a solid state of mind and relief.
lol No I don't support it. There are just too many variables to assess suicidal people as a whole.
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To me this is a untouchable arguement from anyones stand point. No one has either attempted it and failed/survived. Only person that could shed light on the worst of the worst on this topic would be someone who has attempted and succeed, but kinda hard to reply for them. None of us could say what the views of a person would be that has had to go to that extreme over a life of hardship. Because a life of those hardships would twist someones perception of life that to them there is only one way out. To them they would have tried all solutions with no better outcome, no friends of family came to them in there time of need, medical side effects made things worst... to them it would be a never ending downward sprial.
No, a selfish idiot is one who has suffered little hardship and when something doesn't go as plan for them and they put a bullet in their head instead of riding it out. I'm talking about people who have always gotten the short end of the stick for decades of their lives.
If you are mentally suffering for years upon years, how can that be selfish? After a while, what's going on in their mind is out of their or anyone else's hands.
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Agreed. People who kill themselves over one time recent events that went wrong, is selfish, and those that live hardships day in an day out and never catch a break or are never able to better things. Then thats someone who is so far gone and the views of reality for them are far warped.
Exactly, humans can only handle so much stress. The human mind can break and have faults like anything else in the world.
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Mentally ill people, more often than not, don't even have the mental capacity to contemplate suicide.
Then you have the moron whose life isn't going just as he planned so he offs himself. Complete selfishness. I lived on Peachtree Street for two years without a roof over my head. Never once did I think of that as an out.
The vast majority of the people that do this are OF SOUND MIND and not mentally challenged. They live in a pity party world and think "boo-hoo, no one likes me" so they kill themselves.
Just plain stupid. Later, QD.
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This is exactly right.My co-worker's sister killed herself because she was bullied at school and she found no other way out. Mentally handicapped people usually can't understand what suicide is and it usually isn't taught what it is.
I think one about sums it up...
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