The world may end in 2012 but

[Paul]

You realize that businesses must now incur and extra expense or pay a fine right? That cost will get cycled into 1) cost of goods 2)employees

history has shown us that when you raise the expenses of a business they find a way to pass that cost on. Now if we weren't in a recession and unemployment was around 4% and economy was booming not a big deal IMO, but in this climate all they did was insure a longer recovery or maybe even a collapse.

If you are already cash strapped business and now you must provide healthcare to your employees, that business will either lay more people off resultig in higher unemployment, or close it's doors resulting in higher unemployment, or raise it's prices on it's services or goods which hurts all Americans

they will be single handedly destroying private insurance companies. This is a step to a single payer system Obama has said it all along this is just the beginning. This bill breaks the backs and puts insurers out of business. How many people are employed by the insurance companies

yeah I think your head is in the sand

if you work for a company w/ over 50 employees who isn't offering healthcare currently strapped for cash they aren't built for a recession anyway. my company works on cash alone and we offer healthcare... why? b/c it is ran fiscally responsible where other companies aren't. the notion that 30+ million new consumers to the market is bad is crazy! all private healthcare companies will make money off of this and you are crazy to think other wise.

[Vteckidd]

if you work for a company w/ over 50 employees who isn't offering healthcare currently strapped for cash they aren't built for a recession anyway. my company works on cash alone and we offer healthcare... why? b/c it is ran fiscally responsible where other companies aren't. the notion that 30+ million new consumers to the market is bad is crazy! all private healthcare companies will make money off of this and you are crazy to think other wise.

I guess 300-500k in extra costs is in the example above is chump change. Hey can't make money the rules have changed. They will be told what to charge and now they have to cover more people for LESS money

That's like saying 30million new people will buy a $20000 car from ford but now ford can only charge $10000. It's fuzzy math and you know it

I don't buy the comment that you're not recession proof if you don't provide healthcare. Totally untrue look how many huge institutions have failed. You realize 50 -200 employees is extremely small business right? If people aren't buying they aren't buying period that hurts everyone. Raising costs will hurt everyone

I'll bet you $100 unemployment goes up not down and business site healthcare as th reason. I'll bet you premiums rise too