ATTN:To the STANCE followers (nuttswingers)

[Slow Motion]

To the Stance Dickriders (Note: You may or may not fall into this category),

I must admit that having good fitment is nice but, damn. Now every dickriden' follower of what is supposedly cool is saying it now. Stance this, Stance that, Stance, Stance, Stance. Well, damn nuttswinger we get it. You got the stance of a man who likes buttsecks.

I thought stance was something you noticed, something that was just a given. You look at the car and admire the wheels, along with the interior and the story the guy tells about how rebuilding his engine was a pain in the ass because he broke a head stud, or blew the head-gasket during the break in. Not something that would replace JDM or having actual parts that makes hp.

Me personally I am somewhat of a wheel whore. I like the real deal and when they are perfectly fitted on a car, it's like a nice set of BBS LM's right out of the box. But, it's not the car or the end all be all of TUNING right. IDK seems like Stance is gonna be hare for a while till someone does something different which draws the attention away from Stance. I would prefer everyone jump on an engine at least there would be some good build threads going on. Just my view point. I can't tell anybody what to do but, I can say stop being Fuckin' BITCHES.

My .

Waits for the comments to roll in.

[Got Milk?]

why do u care so much?

[Slow Motion]

From the conversations that me and people I know that like cars, to stance picture on this website, to stance pictures that are on other websites. It's just me venting. My . Nothing more. I don't expect to change the world with a thread, my friend.

[-EnVus-]

lol i almost made a thread like this idk how many times...
I hate the whole Stance this and Stance that shit. If its the new fad then guess ill be uncool and not follow.
I don't have nothing against ppl like JITB but damn i bet his post count is nothing but Stance threads.....
Lets leave stance to the DUBCITY playas and lets keep our import thing clean and just fitment NOT Stance lol

[ash7]

I would prefer everyone jump on an engine at least there would be some good build threads going on.

They typical thing to do is building an engine - in fact, i'd say that's much more cliche' than having aggressive wheel/tire fitment on a vehicle.

But overall, i agree with your post.
-jonathan

[Echonova]

Stance is the new JDM

[-EnVus-]

Stance is the new JDM

Then lets get me a name change please

[Mantooth]

why do u care so much?

Why do your posts suck?

















To the OP, MOTHERFUCKING DOT!

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[Echonova]

They typical thing to do is building an engine - in fact, i'd say that's much more cliche' than having aggressive wheel/tire fitment on a vehicle.

"Building" an engine means more than slapping on a Password JDM whale penis intake, header and an e-Bay exhaust...


Sadly I think this concept is lost on a generation.

[jfman]

Horsepower never goes out of style.

[tdurr]

"Building" an engine means more than slapping on a Password JDM whale penis intake, header and an e-Bay exhaust...


Sadly I think this concept is lost on a generation.

damnit, i would rep u if i could right now.

[4eyedbox]

"Building" an engine means more than slapping on a Password JDM whale penis intake, header and an e-Bay exhaust...


Sadly I think this concept is lost on a generation.

Are you sure bout that? What if I add cams and gears? No, still not built?

This is one thing that really irks the living fuck out of me.

[HypnoToad]

hey dont forget if you dont like the stance fad,you're a hater.

[cjhutch]

I made a post and put it in my title and someone came in having a hissy fit because of the title and pictures of my car that I posted. I meant it as a joke and by the pictures I posted I thought it would be pretty clear that I was not part of the "Stance" crew. I have no problem with it and I think it's wrong to tell people that dislike stance to not post in a topic where they see it in the title. We are all here to voice our opinions and if you don't want to hear what others have to say then you're in the wrong place.

I kind of see it as the anti-performance. Not everyone wants to get to the next stoplight faster than everyone else. It's kind of like the low-rider scene where they just ride low and slow. Get from Point A to Point B and do it in style.

[toxxxic]

who gives a shit?

[bowdown201]

What she said^^

There were tons of haters on "JDM" so what makes this any different? No matter what someone is gonna do somethin to their car that THEY like and not care about what YOU think. Simple as that

[Elbow]

http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.p...1888969&ref=ts

STANCE FAILS

[DriVaH]

can't we all just get along?????







































































~hides~

[Elbow]

I made a post and put it in my title and someone came in having a hissy fit because of the title and pictures of my car that I posted. I meant it as a joke and by the pictures I posted I thought it would be pretty clear that I was not part of the "Stance" crew. I have no problem with it and I think it's wrong to tell people that dislike stance to not post in a topic where they see it in the title. We are all here to voice our opinions and if you don't want to hear what others have to say then you're in the wrong place.

I kind of see it as the anti-performance. Not everyone wants to get to the next stoplight faster than everyone else. It's kind of like the low-rider scene where they just ride low and slow. Get from Point A to Point B and do it in style.

Then go be homo somewhere else.

[Mantooth]

Then go be homo somewhere else.

No shit. I wouldn't consider it stylish. I can get from point A to B and do it in style without looking like I have busted shocks.

[Elbow]

No shit. I wouldn't consider it stylish. I can get from point A to B and do it in style without looking like I have busted shocks.

LOL X2

[ATLTSX]

"Building" an engine means more than slapping on a Password JDM whale penis intake, header and an e-Bay exhaust...

Funny shit.

[Dirty Octopus™]

Proper fitment, as i like to call it, has been around for quite some time. And true it seems that as of recent its become the "cool" thing to achieve but honestly i believe the constant presence of it is opening eyes that were slightly closed before. You dont realize you like the new Dominos pizza until you see the commercials and you go try it. But still it only appeals to a select few folks that either have the fitment gene in them, dont have the money for super performance mods (like myself), & folks that just wanna be different but not in a reckless manner.

Why TT a K series motor? I assume because its never been done and gosh darnit because you want to.

Why push the limits of an LSx? Because you like power and because gosh darnit you want to.

Why add all sorts of suspension doo dads to your STI or any vehicle for the matter? Because you like the way it handles and because gosh darnit you want to.

Why have what is considered good fitment by those that appreciate it on your vehicle? Because you think it looks good. You get a feeling of self accomplishiment by pushing the limits of a not often utilized aspect of a vehicle. and gosh darnit because you want to.

Why do you only wear Bananna Republic? Because THAT is YOUR brand. Nothing else fits your butt nicer and nothing else keeps you warmer. Why do i love Ralph Lauren? Because of the feeling i get when i wear his clothes/shoes/hats/fragrances. Folks like fitment because that's simply their favorite brand of modding. If EVERYONE was created the same life would be extremely boring. As someone stated before they're waiting for a new trend to come about, i am too. maybe then fitment folks wont be chastised any longer for liking what they like.

I'm a firm believer in "to each his own". but really... to each his own maaaaaaan.

[BKgen®]

Proper fitment, as i like to call it, has been around for quite some time. And true it seems that as of recent its become the "cool" thing to achieve but honestly i believe the constant presence of it is opening eyes that were slightly closed before. You dont realize you like the new Dominos pizza until you see the commercials and you go try it. But still it only appeals to a select few folks that either have the fitment gene in them, dont have the money for super performance mods (like myself), & folks that just wanna be different but not in a reckless manner.

Why TT a K series motor? I assume because its never been done and gosh darnit because you want to.

Why push the limits of an LSx? Because you like power and because gosh darnit you want to.

Why add all sorts of suspension doo dads to your STI or any vehicle for the matter? Because you like the way it handles and because gosh darnit you want to.

Why have what is considered good fitment by those that appreciate it on your vehicle? Because you think it looks good. You get a feeling of self accomplishiment by pushing the limits of a not often utilized aspect of a vehicle. and gosh darnit because you want to.

Why do you only wear Bananna Republic? Because THAT is YOUR brand. Nothing else fits your butt nicer and nothing else keeps you warmer. Why do i love Ralph Lauren? Because of the feeling i get when i wear his clothes/shoes/hats/fragrances. Folks like fitment because that's simply their favorite brand of modding. If EVERYONE was created the same life would be extremely boring. As someone stated before they're waiting for a new trend to come about, i am too. maybe then fitment folks wont be chastised any longer for liking what they like.

I'm a firm believer in "to each his own". but really... to each his own maaaaaaan.

You tell 'em, Kash.... GOSH DARNIT.

[Elbow]

You left one thing out.

IT TAKES NO SKILL, GIVES NO PRIDE, IT'S NOTHING GOOD FITMENT EXCEPT AN ILL HANDLING CAR...I DON'T MEAN ILL ON A TRACK I MEAN IT DRIVES LIKE SHIT AND WEARS TIRES OUT TOO FAST.

[BKgen®]

You left one thing out.

IT TAKES NO SKILL, GIVES NO PRIDE, IT'S NOTHING GOOD FITMENT EXCEPT AN ILL HANDLING CAR...I DON'T MEAN ILL ON A TRACK I MEAN IT DRIVES LIKE SHIT AND WEARS TIRES OUT TOO FAST.

Toe wears tires faster than camber... just throwing it out there.*



*DISCLAIMER: BKgen® does not support or uphold the views/beliefs of the tire stretchers and stance nazis.

[changaroo]

stance is for fags.

[Elbow]

Toe wears tires faster than camber... just throwing it out there.*



*DISCLAIMER: BKgen® does not support or uphold the views/beliefs of the tire stretchers and stance nazis.

True. I bet half of the "stance" girls don't even know what toe is though.

[Slow Motion]

Reiterating, that this is just my . I feel ya Kash Money, To me it's moving past proper fitment to--my "stance sticker" is cooler than yours, or my wheels are more geometrically aligned to my car which make me better than you.

~fin~

[Dirty Octopus™]

You left one thing out.
IT TAKES NO SKILL, GIVES NO PRIDE, IT'S NOTHING GOOD FITMENT EXCEPT AN ILL HANDLING CAR...I DON'T MEAN ILL ON A TRACK I MEAN IT DRIVES LIKE SHIT AND WEARS TIRES OUT TOO FAST

1. you stated more than one thing that i "left out"
2. believe it or not you do use your brain. There’s a lot of math involved if you’re doing it right. Modding for power takes no skill if you ask me. You see someone with say.... a turbo kit on a car that you own. You see he's putting down X amount of horses. What do folks typically do? They ask what he has. THEN they apply it to their vehicle inevitably replicating the one that did it first. In most cases of the fitment scene you ALWAYS have to factor in unknown values due to everyones vehicles being different.
3. a sense of Self Accomplishment IS pride.
4. No offense but I got lost after the pride thing. please repeat

True. I bet half of the "stance" girls don't even know what toe is though.

i beg to differ. thats one of those things you have to know in order to do it right. Sure there are a select few that don't care to know some things but you come across that type of folk in every scene.[/COLOR]

[TSiFTW]

While I would never do it, and most of the time think it looks retarded, especially on performance based cars, sometimes I will admit it looks great on the right car. There are several things I don't like but that doesn't mean it's wrong. No one on this site is the end all to car modifying, trends are trends, and you either follow them or you don't. Just remember that there are very few leaders and LOTS of followers in this culture and just like music there are LOTS of sub genres of the traditional Show and Go. If your into show, chances are you don't wanna go fast and you just wanna look good, opposite for go.

To sum things up I do not think I have the right to tell ANYONE that ANYTHING they do to THEIR cars or trucks is wrong or right. If I like it I will tell you so. If I don't most of the time I will just keep my mouth shut, or if I do it will be constructive on what I think could be done to better the quality.

[bowdown201]

While I would never do it, and most of the time think it looks retarded, especially on performance based cars, sometimes I will admit it looks great on the right car. There are several things I don't like but that doesn't mean it's wrong. No one on this site is the end all to car modifying, trends are trends, and you either follow them or you don't. Just remember that there are very few leaders and LOTS of followers in this culture and just like music there are LOTS of sub genres of the traditional Show and Go. If your into show, chances are you don't wanna go fast and you just wanna look good, opposite for go.

To sum things up I do not think I have the right to tell ANYONE that ANYTHING they do to THEIR cars or trucks is wrong or right. If I like it I will tell you so. If I don't most of the time I will just keep my mouth shut, or if I do it will be constructive on what I think could be done to better the quality.

This

[Elbow]

1. you stated more than one thing that i "left out"
2. believe it or not you do use your brain. There’s a lot of math involved if you’re doing it right. Modding for power takes no skill if you ask me. You see someone with say.... a turbo kit on a car that you own. You see he's putting down X amount of horses. What do folks typically do? They ask what he has. THEN they apply it to their vehicle and inevitably replicating the one that did it first. In most cases of the fitment scene you ALWAYS have to factor in unknown values due to everyones vehicles being different.
3. a sense of Self Accomplishment IS pride.
4. No offense but I got lost after the pride thing. please repeat


i beg to differ. thats one of those things you have to know in order to do it right. Sure there are a select few that don't care to know some things but you come across that type of folk in every scene.

With the toe thing I'm not really speaking of some of the real guys who do it like yourself but the poser ones who usually ruin it for the select few who really are into it. Just like drifting, Hondas, etc. There are always the fan boys who make everyone else look bad.

I know it takes thought and trial and error to get the camber and everything right so the fitment is how you want it but it doesn't really take skill. I've been doing alignments in my driveway since I was fifteen and it's just a time and patience thing none of it is really hard.

[MINI]

STANCE AS FUCK YO

I JUST GOT SOME STANCE STRAIGHT FROM JAPAN YO

STANCE JUST KICKED IN YO

THATS HELLASTANCE BRO

COOL STANCE BRO

NAH STANCE?

[Slow Motion]

Not quite ^^^

[Dirty Octopus™]

With the toe thing I'm not really speaking of some of the real guys who do it like yourself but the poser ones who usually ruin it for the select few who really are into it. Just like drifting, Hondas, etc. There are always the fan boys who make everyone else look bad.

word. i can dig it! there are bad apples in every aspect of this whole car thing. We cant escape them.

I know it takes thought and trial and error to get the camber and everything right so the fitment is how you want it but it doesn't really take skill. I've been doing alignments in my driveway since I was fifteen and it's just a time and patience thing none of it is really hard.

When i read your skill comment i wasn't exactly referring to alignments but rather getting wheels on the car PERIOD. lol
I am far from stupid but math was NEVER my favorite subject back in school. but ever since exposed to the fitment scene (thanks to my Lexus) ive found myself adding, subtracting, dividing, using unknowns, using all sorts of shit i never liked before. And i do it all in my head. they make offset calculators but there's no fun in using them if you ask me. I feel a sense of accomplishment when i just look at a vehicle and can tell you what you need to achieve the fitment you're looking for.


I see the fitment thing like this… People that once stood in the shadows have come out and found acceptance. Just like body-kit boys in the late 90’s/early 2000’s. Just like the JDM/Euro boys in the mid 2000’s. There’s the fitment guys of the latter part of the decade. All the folks I stated ALL still exist. But they’ve already found they’re group of people that accept them for who they are. They haven’t died off they just aren’t the center of attention anymore. The Fitment scene may do the same. It'll become accepted as a normal thing and the folks that hate it won't bother with it too much cuz something else young and hype will be around.

[MINI]

Not quite ^^^

But ooooh so close.

[Dirty Octopus™]

But ooooh so close.

nah playa

[Doppelgänger]

I dunno.... I think "stance" is definitely a poseur thing to do. I mean, you're taking a nice wide wheel, sticking a shitty narrow tire on it , maxing out camer and not giving two fucks if it's useful or not. It falls under the same catergory as someone who takes a showroom stock Chevy Monte Carlo and dresses it up to look exactly like a NASCAR Cup car.

The other thing that pisses me off is that people will dog on damn good expensive wheels because they're not "low offset" some some bullshit like that...but the same nutwisngers will praise Diamond Racing steel boat anchors, SportFag wheels because they "fit". Fuck that. I want a set of BBS LMs*, but they only make it in a 17x7.5" +42...I'd need at least +20 for internet anal approval....but fuck that...I'd still rock the fuck out of them because 1) They're fricken LMs 2) They'll be functional and 3) If you have the mouth (or fingers) to make a single negative comment about fitment and LMs, you need to clean out your vagina.

I don't give a fuck is someone thinks my car has "stance" (I don't think it really does)...but I'm also rocking SSR CR-S with giant Brembos on a daily driven car....

Wide wheels are meant for wide tires.

*BBS LM is used for example, can be replaced with J-Line, Volk, CCW, SSR, etc...

[Dirty Octopus™]

I dunno.... I think "stance" is definitely a poseur thing to do. I mean, you're taking a nice wide wheel, sticking a shitty narrow tire on it , maxing out camer and not giving two fucks if it's useful or not. It falls under the same catergory as someone who takes a showroom stock Chevy Monte Carlo and dresses it up to look exactly like a NASCAR Cup car.

The other thing that pisses me off is that people will dog on damn good expensive wheels because they're not "low offset" some some bullshit like that...but the same nutwisngers will praise Diamond Racing steel boat anchors, SportFag wheels because they "fit". Fuck that. I want a set of BBS LMs, but they only make it in a 17x7.5" +42...I'd need at least +20 for internet anal approval....but fuck that...I'd still rock the fuck out of them because 1) They fricken LMs 2) They'll be functional and 3) If you have the mouth (or fingers) to make a single negative comment about fitment and LMs, you need to clean out your vagina.

I don't give a fuck is someone thinks my car has "stance" (I don't think it really does)...but I'm also rocking SSR CR-S with giant Brembos on a daily driven car....

Wide wheels are meant for wide tires.

this is gonna be fun... cuz i really like you.
brb... i'll edit my post in a bit. i gotta finish processing this application.