ATTN:To the STANCE followers (nuttswingers)

[Doppelgänger]

this is gonna be fun... cuz i really like you.
brb... i'll edit my post in a bit. i gotta finish processing this application.

Remember it's just how I see it. I'm saying everyone should go all battleship or anything....or maybe I am talking about the extreme cases of "stance". It's really becomes a grey area between stance, flush, stretch and fitment...and that people often think about one, when talking about another and that other person could be thinking of something totally different. Shit, re-reading my post, I think I maybe have gone off on a tangent about the wrong term myself lol. Maybe I'm too use to seeing what people call 'stance' in the Miata community and my view is all skewed. Am I back pedaling? I don't even fucking know.

Maybe I am too much into the functionality of modifications-
I can spot the difference between someone doing it "right" and someone doing it to be on the bandwagon and can appreciate the time/money that has gone into getting a car to have the right "stance"-

Frankly...I think the word is just played the fuck out and people need to stop sticking a fucking label to every God damn thing out there. Remember words like "tricked out" and "show car" and "kitted out" before everyone started throwing around "clean" and "JDM"....which are generall written-off now and the new cool *ish is "dope/flush/stance/hella flush".


Ripped from the pics section- This picture.. some will call it "flush", some might call it "stretch" some might call it "stance" and some might call it "slammed"...I say I love the wheels, I like the color combo...but it's not what I would have done.

[BKgen®]

This whole "stance" thing doesn't bother me as long as the car is drivable. Some of the cars look damn good -- dumb camber or not.

But fuck trailer queens. Cars are meant to be driven.

[Dirty Octopus™]

Remember it's just how I see it. I'm saying everyone should go all battleship or anything....or maybe I am talking about the extreme cases of "stance". It's really becomes a grey area between stance, flush, stretch and fitment...and that people often think about one, when talking about another and that other person could be thinking of something totally different. Shit, re-reading my post, I think I maybe have gone off on a tangent about the wrong term myself lol. Maybe I'm too use to seeing what people call 'stance' in the Miata community and my view is all skewed.

Maybe I am too much into the functionality of modifications-
I can spot the difference between someone doing it "right" and someone doing it to be on the bandwagon and can appreciate the time/money that has gone into getting a car to have the right "stance"-

Frankly...I think the word is just played the fuck out.

lol! Its all good bro. I've honored your opinion since 2003 when i knew nothing.
I actually feel honored that i can speak to you with something valid to say about a topic i now know about.

and oh yeah... the word "Stance" is played the fuck out. True story.


but here goes...

I dunno.... I think "stance" is definitely a poseur thing to do. I mean, you're taking a nice wide wheel, sticking a shitty narrow tire on it , maxing out camer and not giving two fucks if it's useful or not.

240 dudes did it but everyone forgot about those guys

The other thing that pisses me off is that people will dog on damn good expensive wheels because they're not "low offset" some some bullshit like that...but the same nutwisngers will praise Diamond Racing steel boat anchors, SportFag wheels because they "fit". Fuck that.

Just because a wheel is expensive doesn’t make it better. But that’s a whole other conversation.

If someone dogs a wheel on a car that is being modded not for fitment but for other purposes they’re utterly WRONG for doing so. They’re uneducated people. Then again folks that dog someone with a low offset wheel because they’re not expensive is in the wrong as well. A lot of Fitment guys are wheel fanatics and don’t always take too kindly to “cheater wheels” like the DR’s and Sportmaxes. There’s no thinking when purchasing those. There’s no real PRIDE in getting fitment out of those wheels.

I want a set of BBS LMs, but they only make it in a 17x7.5" +42...I'd need at least +20 for internet anal approval....but fuck that...I'd still rock the fuck out of them because 1) They fricken LMs 2) They'll be functional and 3) If you have the mouth (or fingers) to make a single negative comment about fitment and LMs, you need to clean out your vagina.

LM’s are God’s 2nd favorite set of wheels next to RS’
You’re stupid not to like them.

Wide wheels are meant for wide tires.

On certain applications. For the enthusiast that wants to fit a wide wheel on to their car simply because they like the style of wheel and width they need a smaller tire. That’s that. They just do. The smaller tire serves a purpose. It may not serve a purpose to you because you don’t want it to. But for the person that loves the wheels and wants them to fit, it serves their purpose.

[Doppelgänger]

Everything I just said in the above post.

Not a problem at all, I absolutely don't mind a good discussion. Any half-wit will never be opposed to another person's insight.



By the way, I added more to my other post...but I'm sure you've seen that already lol

[Dirty Octopus™]

Not a problem at all, I absolutely don't mind a good discussion. Any half-wit will never be opposed to another person's insight.



By the way, I added more to my other post...but I'm sure you've seen that already lol

lol yeah... i think his car looked better on his old Work Eurolines. i think they fit better. but thats just me.
but at the state his car is in... i like the stance, the height, but i dont like the wheels.

[Elbow]

Great discussion, DO should be the official spokesman for stance/flush/fitment all of that because he puts a real life and real deal respectable perspective on it without just saying fuck you you're a hater.

[Doppelgänger]

And for the record, in my opinion, when I think of 'having you cake and eating it too' (aka "stance") I think of stuff like this..

[Dirty Octopus™]

Great discussion, DO should be the official spokesman for stance/flush/fitment all of that because he puts a real life and real deal respectable perspective on it without just saying fuck you you're a hater.

bwahahahahahahahahahaha!
yeah some folks just dont have enough patience to express how they feel in a tactful unmenacing manner.

[Dirty Octopus™]

And for the record, in my opinion, when I think of 'having you cake and eating it too' (aka "stance") I think of stuff like this..

Mmmm... happy mediums! gotta love it

[KodyH]

This whole "stance" thing doesn't bother me as long as the car is drivable. Some of the cars look damn good -- dumb camber or not.

But fuck trailer queens. Cars are meant to be driven.

Do you own a Burger King?

[BKgen®]

lolol

[ash7]

Then go be homo somewhere else.

so, whatever happened to personal preference? "Stance" is one of those things. "The blown shock look" is one of those things. Porsches configured for circuits and having big, ugly spoilers is also one of those things.

-jonathan

[e30pwr]

reps to those being civil in an arguement for once. i figured i would get to the last page and still have some name calling going on. DO is on point with his statements.

[Elbow]

so, whatever happened to personal preference? "Stance" is one of those things. "The blown shock look" is one of those things. Porsches configured for circuits and having big, ugly spoilers is also one of those things.

-jonathan

I support personal preference.

However, if I comment that I don't like it or it looks like shit when it REALLY does look like shit and someone replies "fuck you hater" and stuff like that, then it makes everyone else associated with that preference look like a tool.

I like ANY car that looks good, is fast, or whatever, I don't have a list of what I will and won't like. I like some VIP cars and hate others. Also some personal preference I don't even think the person who made it prefers, I think some just crave attention. Which is just sad.

[Slow Motion]

I support personal preference.

However, if I comment that I don't like it or it looks like shit when it REALLY does look like shit and someone replies "fuck you hater" and stuff like that, then it makes everyone else associated with that preference look like a tool.

I like ANY car that looks good, is fast, or whatever, I don't have a list of what I will and won't like. I like some VIP cars and hate others. Also some personal preference I don't even think the person who made it prefers, I think some just crave attention. Which is just sad.

This statement is true.

[Nerdsrock22]

Lots of good stuff in here. It's been a good read.

I've posted my share of "stance" cars on IA, but I'm certainly not a card-carrying member. I appreciate any car that was done with a sense of quality and passion; track beast, race car, stanced, JDM, FnF, show car, or rat rod. It doesn't matter to me, as long as it's been done well.

I'd still much rather see a mint Civic with candy lime green paint, a crazy body kit, and motegi's then a guy who just went on jdmebaystore.com and added all the right things to his checkout basket, slapped them on, and pasted on a crooked shocker sticker.

[JITB]

I always had a problem with posers and people that try too hard to do something regardless of what it is. This so called "new trend" isnt new, its just a evolution. i wont say i got into that scene but if i was gonna put together a vip styled car i was gonna have to have a good fitting tire..stretch poke, and slam was and is the only way. it takes a bold man to take their great riding comfortable car, and to make it sit a certain way, and turn it into a stiff stance machine..

but i appreciate everything. dont matter what it is, i will like something about it, i just cant not like a put together vehicle.. its just not me. I even have a hard time saying anything non constructive.

i honestly dont understand how people that dont like it or arent into it, spend more time talking bad on what they are not into. There isnt a thread like this on stanceworks, or hellflush.... but on every other forum i go on there is a "im tired of (stance-flush) " thread... i seent it


have u all been seeing how much love some IAers have been getting all around the world!

[HypnoToad]

Lots of good stuff in here. It's been a good read.

I've posted my share of "stance" cars on IA, but I'm certainly not a card-carrying member. I appreciate any car that was done with a sense of quality and passion; track beast, race car, stanced, JDM, FnF, show car, or rat rod. It doesn't matter to me, as long as it's been done well.

I'd still much rather see a mint Civic with candy lime green paint, a crazy body kit, and motegi's then a guy who just went on jdmebaystore.com and added all the right things to his checkout basket, slapped them on, and pasted on a crooked shocker sticker.

i agree with this.

i mean i like alot of the cars,i just dont like the tires....guess i just would like to see a s2k with 10in wide wheels tucking 315s.

[HypnoToad]

I always had a problem with posers and people that try too hard to do something regardless of what it is. This so called "new trend" isnt new, its just a evolution. i wont say i got into that scene but if i was gonna put together a vip styled car i was gonna have to have a good fitting tire..stretch poke, and slam was and is the only way. it takes a bold man to take their great riding comfortable car, and to make it sit a certain way, and turn it into a stiff stance machine..

but i appreciate everything. dont matter what it is, i will like something about it, i just cant not like a put together vehicle.. its just not me. I even have a hard time saying anything non constructive.

i honestly dont understand how people that dont like it or arent into it, spend more time talking bad on what they are not into. There isnt a thread like this on stanceworks, or hellflush.... but on every other forum i go on there is a "im tired of (stance-flush) " thread... i seent it


have u all been seeing how much love some IAers have been getting all around the world!

i think the reason for that is because its everywhere,i mean go to car pics and most you see has something to do with stance this,stance that.

but thats just my

[JITB]

i think the reason for that is because its everywhere,i mean go to car pics and most you see has something to do with stance this,stance that.

but thats just my

thats because people like it.. my blog doesnt have alot of stanced cars, its alot of well built cars, that are in our region.. Ia is just a mixing pot, the best stuff i find i dont even post it on IA. I usually post stuff that make people talk and just are interesting to look at.

[HypnoToad]

thats because people like it.. my blog doesnt have alot of stanced cars, its alot of well built cars. Ia is just a mixing pot, the best stuff i find i dont even post it on IA. I usually post stuff that make people talk and just are interesting to look at.

well yea but ofcourse not everyone will like it and i wanna say this goes both ways i see alot of people tell people with car built to perform bout slamming thier cars or have skinny tires.

i saw a thread not long ago where 70% of the people in the thread told this guy to slam his corvette and it needed poke,i mean really its a corvette not a civic,lol.

[Nerdsrock22]

i think the reason for that is because its everywhere,i mean go to car pics and most you see has something to do with stance this,stance that.

but thats just my

I love that people post up controversial stuff, that makes for the best threads.

IA would be an awfully boring place if every thread response was:

AWESOME BRO!!!!11! :idb:

If stance makes for good debate, bring it on.

[DeeAOne]

lots of good points in this thread. i can definitely see both sides of the argument.

my personal opinion,

i feel like that the whole stance thing is another thing that a lot of people will do just to fit in. like DO and others said, some will do it right and some will do it wrong. everyone is into different things. so if its really what you are into, and you arent doing to make others happy i say go for it all day.

mod your car for YOU.

[Glides]

To the Clean Dickriders (Note: You may or may not fall into this category),

I must admit that having good fitment is nice but, damn. Now every dickriden' follower of Rota's, Springs and a Lip are saying it now. Clean this, Clean that, Clean, Clean, Clean. Well, damn nuttswinger we get it. You got the Clean butt of a man who likes buttsecks.

I thought Clean was something you noticed, something that was just a given. You look at the car and admire the whole car, along with the interior and the story the guy tells about how he looked at the picture section of Import Atlanta for references on how to make his car look like every other car out there and lie to himself about how gay he really is. Not something that would replace JDM or having actual parts that makes hp, no, he doesn't need that. he only needs to follow the herd to be cool.

Me personally I am somewhat of a bandwagoner. I like the real deal Rota's, nothing beats some Ground Controls and Machine Gun stickers on my lip, it's like a nice set of Spoon copies right out of the box. But, it's not the car or the end all be all of TUNING right. IDK seems like Clean is gonna be hear for a while till someone does something different which draws the attention away from Clean. I would prefer everyone jump on a Pep Boys lighted gear shift knob, at least there would be some good Whores Lounge threads going on. Just my view point. I can't tell anybody what to do but, I can say stop being Fuckin' BITCHES.

My .

Waits for the comments to roll in.

There, I fixed it for the Import Atlanta Cattle Herd.

Funny how you can insert ANY lame, stupid, nutswinging term in there and it makes sense.

[Dirty Octopus™]

I always had a problem with posers and people that try too hard to do something regardless of what it is. This so called "new trend" isnt new, its just a evolution. i wont say i got into that scene but if i was gonna put together a vip styled car i was gonna have to have a good fitting tire..stretch poke, and slam was and is the only way. it takes a bold man to take their great riding comfortable car, and to make it sit a certain way, and turn it into a stiff stance machine..

but i appreciate everything. dont matter what it is, i will like something about it, i just cant not like a put together vehicle.. its just not me. I even have a hard time saying anything non constructive.

i honestly dont understand how people that dont like it or arent into it, spend more time talking bad on what they are not into. There isnt a thread like this on stanceworks, or hellflush.... but on every other forum i go on there is a "im tired of (stance-flush) " thread... i seent it


have u all been seeing how much love some IAers have been getting all around the world!

THIS is true. We should be happy for our fellow IA man. IA members have been setting trends and are known literally across the globe. I too have seent it.
I'm an example.

i mean i like alot of the cars,i just dont like the tires....guess i just would like to see a s2k with 10in wide wheels tucking 315s.

that would DEFINETELY be awesome but our little Honda bodys cant fit them. But we want to be like the big boys so we do what we can.

I LOVE Vette's and Stangs with 12" wide wheels and 345s or something like that. but its a totally different chassis from the s2000. They're made for that. the APs are not

i think the reason for that is because its everywhere,i mean go to car pics and most you see has something to do with stance this,stance that.

but thats just my

Thats because people are speaking up and expelling the fear they had before of posting.

[JITB]

well yea but ofcourse not everyone will like it and i wanna say this goes both ways i see alot of people tell people with car built to perform bout slamming thier cars or have skinny tires.

i saw a thread not long ago where 70% of the people in the thread told this guy to slam his corvette and it needed poke,i mean really its a corvette not a civic,lol.

i agree... if i had jay leno money, id slam a vette just for the hell of it, and put a rotary in it...

[HypnoToad]

but really the main thing i dont like is the reason for this thread,its all the people that are jumping on the bandwagon.

i mean there are tons of people that have been doing this for awhile,i mean alot of cool "stance" people posted in this thread.

i just dont like the ones that call me a hater and so forth for not liking their wheel/tire setup,thats just stupid.

[HypnoToad]

that would DEFINETELY be awesome but our little Honda bodys cant fit them. But we want to be like the big boys so we do what we can.

I LOVE Vette's and Stangs with 12" wide wheels and 345s or something like that. but its a totally different chassis from the s2000. They're made for that. the APs are not

.

that is true,but i think if they can fit a 10in wide wheel on the back they can do better than a 215 size tire,lol.

i mean i have that on a 15x7. lol

[Dirty Octopus™]

i saw a thread not long ago where 70% of the people in the thread told this guy to slam his corvette and it needed poke,i mean really its a corvette not a civic,lol.

yeah... that is absurd!
but yeah it goes back to the fact that every vehicle serves a purpose. Only narrowminded clowns wont be able to differentiate. but TRUE enthusiasts respect it all. sure they tend to side with either a certain brand of car or a certain style. but if you love cars you love cars.
I want a Mustang but i would NEVER mod it the way i mod my Honda, Lexus, & S10. They're worlds different. If i get another JEEP i will lift it. It will be total opposite of my Honda that currently rubs dicks with the devil. But i'll love them both the same.

[Nerdsrock22]

If i get another JEEP i will lift it. It will be total opposite of my Honda that currently rubs dicks with the devil. But i'll love them both the same.

...in for a VIP Jeep.

[e30pwr]

There, I fixed it for the Import Atlanta Cattle Herd.

Funny how you can insert ANY lame, stupid, nutswining term in there and it makes sense.

either way, its IA, there will be those who like to bitch about the fitment deal, and there will be those that love whatever the newest trend is, and there will be those that truly know what the fitment deal is about*cough*DO*cough*

personally, there is the functional "stance" and the VIP status "stance". Make your car yours, but don't hate for the sake of hating. I know this is a useless statement because the majority of IA wont see it or wont give a damn. Half the time I post something in the pics section I preface it with "I know this isn't everybodies cup of tea" or "not everybody will like it but here it is" and its funny to watch people still bitch and moan.

[Dirty Octopus™]

that is true,but i think if they can fit a 10in wide wheel on the back they can do better than a 215 size tire,lol.

i mean i have that on a 15x7. lol

they do better than a 215. they do 225s
shit i got a 235 Kumho on my Lexus 10J
lolz!

but you gotta remember... in order to fit any 10" wheel on the s2000 and make it look decent we cant always run a butt ton of camber just to make it not rub. we need to push the wheel out to not touch the chassis and get a 225 to not hit the fender/quarters. Its the only way to do it and still be able to drive the car.

[HypnoToad]

they do better than a 215. they do 225s
shit i got a 235 Kumho on my Lexus 10J
lolz!

but you gotta remember... in order to fit any 10" wheel on the s2000 and make it look decent we cant always run a butt ton of camber just to make it not rub. we need to push the wheel out to not touch the chassis and get a 225 to not hit the fender/quarters. Its the only way to do it and still be able to drive the car.

thats why you tub it

[Glides]

either way, its IA, there will be those who like to bitch about the fitment deal, and there will be those that love whatever the newest trend is, and there will be those that truly know what the fitment deal is about*cough*DO*cough*

personally, there is the functional "stance" and the VIP status "stance". Make your car yours, but don't hate for the sake of hating. I know this is a useless statement because the majority of IA wont see it or wont give a damn. Half the time I post something in the pics section I preface it with "I know this isn't everybodies cup of tea" or "not everybody will like it but here it is" and its funny to watch people still bitch and moan.

Lol....it's Import Atlanta. Half these fucking clowns just bitch because everyone else is doing it....sort of goes back to the whole My Civic is better than your Civic cause my Rota's are lime green and yours are black, neener neener.

Mooooo. I hear the herd calling.

[Slow Motion]

[ATK_Designs]

Why do people confuse Stance v.s. Stretched v.s. Fitment?

Fuck, English is my 2nd Language and I, at least, know the differences:

Stance = Overall look of the vehicle with wheels and drop; aka, how it sits.
Stretch = Rims and tires aka, how the rims having smaller-than-spec tires mount on there.
Fitment = Wheels And Hub and Offset.

[Glides]

Why do people confuse Stance v.s. Stretched v.s. Fitment?

Fuck, English is my 2nd Language and I, at least, know the differences:

Stance = Overall look of the vehicle with wheels and drop; aka, how it sits.
Stretch = Rims and tires aka, how the rims having smaller-than-spec tires mount on there.
Fitment = Wheels And Hub and Offset.

The same way they confuse owning a Modified Civic with being Cool. It happens.

[Mantooth]

You're all Cotton-headed Ninny Muggins'!

[Julio]

i'm not a fan..

But all fads come and go... this one just came back...

My question is, what will be the next fad ?

[Elbow]

i'm not a fan..

But all fads come and go... this one just came back...

My question is, what will be the next fad ?

Hydraulics and Dayton wire spoke wheels with stretched tires.