You're close minded. Plain and simple , you have an 18 year old attention whore on your side sweet!
My crx never ran 17s it made more hp/liter than any car you've listed , and it was faster than any pile of garbage you've owned.
Hondas racing heritage is no less prestigous than Porsche
Porsche makes sports cars, Honda made commuter cars. WE made them fast. I know a few guys that would be happy to drag whatever race kaaaa you have around little tally
and my car had a 1.8l not a 1.5




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