Don't Watch the Tonight Show- jay leno doesn't deserve it

[Vteckidd]

Leno wasn't forced into retirement he was told conan wanted the tonight show in 5 years. Leno said he would retire , he could have said no and conan would have gone somewhere else.

Leno backdoored conan and got his own timeslot before conan. Imagine if Carson moved to 10 in front of leno doing the EXACT same show.

Leno could have been professional like Carson and retired for a year, two, three or gone to another network. He didn't he didn't want to retire after saying he would ( pulling a Brett favre and did everything to ensure conan failed.

Conan was given 7 months , 7 months with leno in front of him . It was inevitable jays audience could tune in earlier and skip conan, something Carson fans couldn't do.

Leno didn't overtake letterman for 5 years!

Leno tanked at 10 pm too his show was in jeopardy of being cancelled. Conan was going to take time to adjust an recapture an audience but he was doomed to fail because leno was still around.

Leno is getting an artificial bump from being back now, and hehas no competition , imagine of NBC put conan before leno. So it's an apples to oranges comparison at best.

[roxie911]

Leno wasn't forced into retirement he was told conan wanted the tonight show in 5 years. Leno said he would retire , he could have said no and conan would have gone somewhere else.

Leno backdoored conan and got his own timeslot before conan. Imagine if Carson moved to 10 in front of leno doing the EXACT same show.

Leno could have been professional like Carson and retired for a year, two, three or gone to another network. He didn't he didn't want to retire after saying he would ( pulling a Brett favre and did everything to ensure conan failed.

Conan was given 7 months , 7 months with leno in front of him . It was inevitable jays audience could tune in earlier and skip conan, something Carson fans couldn't do.

So...Leno is obligated to keep an agreement from 5 years ago?? Yeah...riiiight. Things change. People change their mind. Unless it was signed in ink, it doesn't really matter. You can't honestly expect someone to keep his word for that long. The times have changed, and he may have thought it was time then, but he's obviously seeing differently now. It's his career. If he's not ready to quit, then he shouldn't have to. Especially if he still thinks he's up to it.

A lot of people enjoy Leno. It's been that way for awhile. Carson probably retired because he was ready to. Leno may not be ready to. And that's ok. Would you retire from a successful career if you still thought there was a lot left you could do and gain from it? No.

As for switching to another network...some hosts have loyalty to their network. And it's about the money too. If Leno is comfortable at NBC, then he should stay. I wouldn't wanna move somewhere else if I didn't have to.

[Vteckidd]

So...Leno is obligated to keep an agreement from 5 years ago?? Yeah...riiiight. Things change. People change their mind. Unless it was signed in ink, it doesn't really matter. You can't honestly expect someone to keep his word for that long. The times have changed, and he may have thought it was time then, but he's obviously seeing differently now. It's his career. If he's not ready to quit, then he shouldn't have to. Especially if he still thinks he's up to it.

A lot of people enjoy Leno. It's been that way for awhile. Carson probably retired because he was ready to. Leno may not be ready to. And that's ok. Would you retire from a successful career if you still thought there was a lot left you could do and gain from it? No.

As for switching to another network...some hosts have loyalty to their network. And it's about the money too. If Leno is comfortable at NBC, then he should stay. I wouldn't wanna move somewhere else if I didn't have to.

I guess you don't care for honesty or integrity. Leno signed his retirement papers otherwise he could have backed out.

When you give your word an host a show for 17 years, then don't honor that agreement and do everything to ensure your successor fails yeah you're a douchebag.

[roxie911]

I guess you don't care for honesty or integrity. Leno signed his retirement papers otherwise he could have backed out.

When you give your word an host a show for 17 years, then don't honor that agreement and do everything to ensure your successor fails yeah you're a douchebag.

It's business. Since when does "honesty" and "integrity" get you far in business?? Almost never.

The only reason Leno even agreed to retire 5 years ago was because NBC said he probably wouldn't have the ratings that he had then. As I stated before, things change. Leno kept the ratings and thus stayed with the show. It's a smart BUSINESS move on his part.

[Jason..]

It's business. Since when does "honesty" and "integrity" get you far in business?? Almost never.

The only reason Leno even agreed to retire 5 years ago was because NBC said he probably wouldn't have the ratings that he had then. As I stated before, things change. Leno kept the ratings and thus stayed with the show. It's a smart BUSINESS move on his part.

Imiss you

[David88vert]

Leno wasn't forced into retirement he was told conan wanted the tonight show in 5 years. Leno said he would retire , he could have said no and conan would have gone somewhere else.

Leno backdoored conan and got his own timeslot before conan. Imagine if Carson moved to 10 in front of leno doing the EXACT same show.

Leno could have been professional like Carson and retired for a year, two, three or gone to another network. He didn't he didn't want to retire after saying he would ( pulling a Brett favre and did everything to ensure conan failed.

Conan was given 7 months , 7 months with leno in front of him . It was inevitable jays audience could tune in earlier and skip conan, something Carson fans couldn't do.

Leno didn't overtake letterman for 5 years!

Leno tanked at 10 pm too his show was in jeopardy of being cancelled. Conan was going to take time to adjust an recapture an audience but he was doomed to fail because leno was still around.

Leno is getting an artificial bump from being back now, and hehas no competition , imagine of NBC put conan before leno. So it's an apples to oranges comparison at best.

Fact: Under Conan, the Tonight Show had its lowest ratings ever BEFORE Jay Leno's 10pm show went on air.
Fact: Jay Leno's took over the show from Carson in May 1992.
Fact: Leno overtook Letterman in July 1995.
Fact: 3 years is less than 5 years.
Fact: Conan took over on June 1st, and by August 7, repeats of The Late Show were beating O'Brien.
Fact: The Jay Leno Show started September 14, 2009.
Fact: September comes after August.
Fact: The Jay Leno Show aired from September 14, 2009 to February 9, 2010 - which is less than 5 months.
How did Jay run Conan into the ground for 7 months again?

[Vteckidd]

Fact: Under Conan, the Tonight Show had its lowest ratings ever BEFORE Jay Leno's 10pm show went on air.
Fact: Jay Leno's took over the show from Carson in May 1992.
Fact: Leno overtook Letterman in July 1995.
Fact: 3 years is less than 5 years.
Fact: Conan took over on June 1st, and by August 7, repeats of The Late Show were beating O'Brien.
Fact: The Jay Leno Show started September 14, 2009.
Fact: September comes after August.
Fact: The Jay Leno Show aired from September 14, 2009 to February 9, 2010 - which is less than 5 months.
How did Jay run Conan into the ground for 7 months again?

Ok I was wrong about the 5 year part , I knew it wasn't until leno had Hugh grant on to discuss the devine brown situation that's when he first best letterman.


I was wrong about 7 monthS instead of 5.

Obrien was given 3 months tops to go it on his own, then leno came on. I stand by the rest of my statement. Leno was wrong and should have walked away.