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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    IA just thanked me for neg-repping you, lol.

    Its not that I'm saying no one makes bad choices, I'm just saying we should try to find the people who are at the most risk of making bad choices and make more of an effort to educate them as to what the right choices and and what the risks of making bad choices are.

    Which is not to say we should just give more money to poor people. I think that we could do a lot with requiring job training to go with welfare for the able bodied people who are on it. And maybe we could change our food stamp procedure to some sort of work-exchange where people who receive food stamps actually farm the stuff they get, and they get fresh vegetables and stuff instead of being able to buy whatever at the grocery store with a debit card.

    Granted, thats not a solution that would work for everyone, there are old/disabled people in those programs, etc. But it might go a long way to motivate people.

    Equal parts carrot and stick.
    Once again, you are an idiot. Wow, reps? What a fag. I think we should END welfare. I'm sick of seeing people at the grocery store driving new cars and using food stamps. I'm sick of my hard earned money benefiting people who cant even help themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziptied View Post
    Once again, you are an idiot. Wow, reps? What a fag. I think we should END welfare. I'm sick of seeing people at the grocery store driving new cars and using food stamps. I'm sick of my hard earned money benefiting people who cant even help themselves.
    Or limit it, because it actually CAN help if you can't find a job, but someone shouldn't live off of it for months and months on end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziptied View Post
    Once again, you are an idiot. Wow, reps? What a fag. I think we should END welfare. I'm sick of seeing people at the grocery store driving new cars and using food stamps. I'm sick of my hard earned money benefiting people who cant even help themselves.
    What if your gf was pregnant, and you lost your job? You also just moved into a new house--far away from anyone that you know? What then? Do you say "no honey, do not apply for foodstamps because you're using my money!" orrr do you encourage her to apply...

    ya know, so she's not all stressed out about money?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziptied View Post
    Once again, you are an idiot. Wow, reps? What a fag. I think we should END welfare. I'm sick of seeing people at the grocery store driving new cars and using food stamps. I'm sick of my hard earned money benefiting people who cant even help themselves.
    I totally agree with this and not even on a racist level just in general as far as getting all these benefits but yet they have a nice house, nice clothes, driving new cars, walking around with gucci purses and stuff but yet using food stamps and having medicaid for themselves and children. I have W.I.C and had Medicaid for myself and my son. They took me of W.I.C, because I make to much money, but kept my son on it, because I have heard they give W.I.C to children that have been on it until age 5, not sure if that is the truth of not. They took me of Medicaid, because I make to much money, but the only thing Medicaid did was help when I was pregnant, because the hospital bill received for labor was outrageous. They took my son off, because I make to much money. I am a single mom, paying my own bills and what not providing for my son. Not a problem, that is my responsibility. However, I think they should look more into giving benefits to people, because it is totally unfair the way people who are actually trying get denied, and some of the people who have no problems at all with finances get approved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    IA just thanked me for neg-repping you, lol.

    Its not that I'm saying no one makes bad choices, I'm just saying we should try to find the people who are at the most risk of making bad choices and make more of an effort to educate them as to what the right choices and and what the risks of making bad choices are.

    Which is not to say we should just give more money to poor people. I think that we could do a lot with requiring job training to go with welfare for the able bodied people who are on it. And maybe we could change our food stamp procedure to some sort of work-exchange where people who receive food stamps actually farm the stuff they get, and they get fresh vegetables and stuff instead of being able to buy whatever at the grocery store with a debit card.

    Granted, thats not a solution that would work for everyone, there are old/disabled people in those programs, etc. But it might go a long way to motivate people.

    Equal parts carrot and stick.
    In bold requires a good heart and open mind. Many people have neither, nor will they try to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    IA just thanked me for neg-repping you, lol.

    Its not that I'm saying no one makes bad choices, I'm just saying we should try to find the people who are at the most risk of making bad choices and make more of an effort to educate them as to what the right choices and and what the risks of making bad choices are.

    Which is not to say we should just give more money to poor people. I think that we could do a lot with requiring job training to go with welfare for the able bodied people who are on it. And maybe we could change our food stamp procedure to some sort of work-exchange where people who receive food stamps actually farm the stuff they get, and they get fresh vegetables and stuff instead of being able to buy whatever at the grocery store with a debit card.

    Granted, thats not a solution that would work for everyone, there are old/disabled people in those programs, etc. But it might go a long way to motivate people.

    Equal parts carrot and stick.

    we need to sterilize ignorant people and it will slowly work itself out. the process you just described we have been doing for decades we even tried reparations and it didn't work as well.

    besides i'm so tired of people of all races crying about their misfortunes or how they are held down... no black person better ever bring up slavery around me or i will gladly remind them of 6,000,000+ jews who died at the hands of mad men. people in this country make me sick as they don't even know what suffering is. ethnic cleansing is bad what is your excuse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    we need to sterilize ignorant people and it will slowly work itself out. the process you just described we have been doing for decades we even tried reparations and it didn't work as well.

    besides i'm so tired of people of all races crying about their misfortunes or how they are held down... no black person better ever bring up slavery around me or i will gladly remind them of 6,000,000+ jews who died at the hands of mad men. people in this country make me sick as they don't even know what suffering is. ethnic cleansing is bad what is your excuse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    i will gladly remind them of 6,000,000+ jews who died at the hands of mad men. ?
    After the Holocaust the Jews were given a country (perhaps you've heard of Israel)... and reparations. Germany has been paying reparations to holocaust survivors since 1952.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...112201204.html

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    Germany has paid an estimated $25 billion in reparations to Israeli Holocaust survivors, who Factor said numbered 350,000 to 400,000 at their peak. Germany also provided more than $700 million in goods and services to the Israeli government.
    Today, some 250,000 Holocaust survivors live in Israel. They are living longer than was foreseen under the reparation agreement with Germany, with added expenses and high medical costs, survivor leaders say.

    So theres that.


    When you say "we even tried reparations" what exactly are you talking about? Also, I'm unaware of any "CSA as alternative to foodstamps" being tried anywhere in America so if you have source material for that, please send it my way I'd like to check it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
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    besides i'm so tired of people of all races crying about their misfortunes or how they are held down... no black person better ever bring up slavery around me or i will gladly remind them of 6,000,000+ jews who died at the hands of mad men. people in this country make me sick as they don't even know what suffering is. ethnic cleansing is bad what is your excuse?
    What about the Native Americans? Were they not almost wiped out and there land taken from them to be given what shitty ass reservations.
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    I have nothing against black ppl, but honestly, sometimes they do bitch a lot... as though they have a reason to complain. White ppl, they simply are just ignorant twats. hispanics, need to learn some fucking english, asians need to learn how to properly drive. And sand-nggas like muah, simply need to stop being terrorists.

    I do however know a ton of black jokes, that I share with my co-workers. I'm the 4th funniest person at work ya know
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    Quote Originally Posted by bodhi View Post
    I have nothing against black ppl, but honestly, sometimes they do bitch a lot... as though they have a reason to complain. White ppl, they simply are just ignorant twats. hispanics, need to learn some fucking english, asians need to learn how to properly drive. And sand-nggas like muah, simply need to stop being terrorists.

    I do however know a ton of black jokes, that I share with my co-workers. I'm the 4th funniest person at work ya know
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    I'm relatively poor compared to all the 13 inch cocked multi millionaires who frequent IA apparently

    so yes, glides, that's all I had to say. *rolls eyes
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    Quote Originally Posted by bodhi View Post
    I'm relatively poor compared to all the 13 inch cocked multi millionaires who frequent IA apparently

    so yes, glides, that's all I had to say. *rolls eyes

    You don't need a 13 inch cock or lots of money to make an intelligent debate without needing to personally insult someone using profanity.

    When you do that, any good points you wanted to make are buried under ignorance. Just an FYI.

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    I hate welfare.

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    I think Welfare is a necessity for some people. But for most, it is a crutch that they lean on for their entire life. Then they complain and bitch and moan about how they deserve this and that for some things (very bad things, but very bad things done to them by their own people) that happened a VERY long time ago.

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    IMO a family with 10 kids would need more help than a family with 1 kid. Some people milk the system, but it actually helps some families. Don't knock it till you get put in the situation to where you would need it. People are selfish.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LizBiz View Post
    IMO a family with 10 kids would need more help than a family with 1 kid. Some people milk the system, but it actually helps some families. Don't knock it till you get put in the situation to where you would need it. People are selfish.


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    I don't agree one bit. And here is why.

    Let's put it into a car perspective.

    A guy with 4 cars vs a guy with 1 car. Kids are the same as cars because they are not mandatory.

    Should the guy with 4 cars get help from the goverment simply because he can't pay for all of his cars and needs assistance?

    Kids are MADE!. IE someone has to let something into their vagina to start that process. If you can't afford 10 kids....DON'T MAKE THEM!!.

    Nobody should get help simply because they fuck alot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glides View Post
    I don't agree one bit. And here is why.

    Let's put it into a car perspective.

    A guy with 4 cars vs a guy with 1 car.

    Should the guy with 4 cars get help from the goverment simply because he can't pay for all of his cars and needs assistance?

    Kids are MADE!. IE someone has to let something into their vagina to start that process. If you can't afford 10 kids....DON'T MAKE THEM!!.

    Nobody should get help simply because they fuck alot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LizBiz View Post
    IMO a family with 10 kids would need more help than a family with 1 kid. Some people milk the system, but it actually helps some families. Don't knock it till you get put in the situation to where you would need it. People are selfish.


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    True, but some of those people refuse to get jobs or aren't honest on the application, so they abuse the system. Like I said in some situations I understand but in other situations when you can clearly see they don't need help, they are abusing the system and that isn't fair to people who are actually trying, but get denied help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LizBiz View Post
    IMO a family with 10 kids would need more help than a family with 1 kid.
    The Duggars from TLC's 18 Kids and Counting are not and never have been on ANY kind of government assistance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziptied View Post
    The Duggars from TLC's 18 Kids and Counting are not and never have been on ANY kind of government assistance.
    TLC gives them plenty of money sir.

    i kno john n kate got 70k an episode, i guess the black community needs to all get tv shows instead of getting gov assist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neon_ert3 View Post
    TLC gives them plenty of money sir.

    i kno john n kate got 70k an episode, i guess the black community needs to all get tv shows instead of getting gov assist.
    Yeap. If the White Folks can do it, why can't they? Tyler Perry is doing quite nicely for himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neon_ert3 View Post
    TLC gives them plenty of money sir.

    i kno john n kate got 70k an episode, i guess the black community needs to all get tv shows instead of getting gov assist.

    Look 22 year old. They had 16 kids before they ever got the show, and weren't on assistance at all, from one child on up. The "black" community IS THE PROBLEM, they segregate themselves with all of this bullshit. Whatever happened to just a community? Where's the "AAP" Advancement of All People, no, just the black ones so they can feel special. Why are people getting jobs that they aren't qualified for, oh yeah racial quota's.... It's bullshit.

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    I just think society has become weak. It should survival of the fittest, when it comes to money.

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    Its so easy to say "If you can't afford a kid don't make them" but this is the real world. You really think people listen to that? If you can come up with a better solution let someone of higher authority. Stop talking and start walking. You live here you have a right to voice your opinion. Do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LizBiz View Post
    Its so easy to say "If you can't afford a kid don't make them" but this is the real world. You really think people listen to that? If you can come up with a better solution let someone of higher authority. Stop talking and start walking. You live here you have a right to voice your opinion. Do it.
    I am a firm believer in that statement. People should not have kids unless they can afford them. Now, yes, this is the real world, and shit happens, but that doesn't give you the right, well shouldn't anyways, to feed your kid with tax payer's money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LizBiz View Post
    If you can come up with a better solution let someone of higher authority. Stop talking and start walking. You live here you have a right to voice your opinion. Do it.
    See there lies the problem. The higher ups don't listen. I know for a fact that there is a certain law trying to be pushed that most U.S. citizens don't want to be put into law. The higher ups are still trying to push it anyway. I think the time for talking is over as it does not do a damn thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinayak View Post
    See there lies the problem. The higher ups don't listen. I know for a fact that there is a certain law trying to be pushed that most U.S. citizens don't want to be put into law. The higher ups are still trying to push it anyway. I think the time for talking is over as it does not do a damn thing.
    Always a damn excuse. If you don't like it and don't say anything cuz "oh the higher ups don't listen" why do you expect a difference?

    What are YOU doing to make sure this law doesn't get passed? Sitting on ur ass on IA bitching about it. GTFO.

    You are worse than a baby peeing in his diaper and crying until someone decides to change his ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LizBiz View Post
    Always a damn excuse. If you don't like it and don't say anything cuz "oh the higher ups don't listen" why do you expect a difference?

    What are YOU doing to make sure this law doesn't get passed? Sitting on ur ass on IA bitching about it. GTFO.

    You are worse than a baby peeing in his diaper and crying until someone decides to change his ass.

    Where did I say I didn't like it? I really hope it does pass to be honest. I am just stating a fact that more U.S. citizens don't want it than those that do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LizBiz View Post
    Its so easy to say "If you can't afford a kid don't make them" but this is the real world. You really think people listen to that? If you can come up with a better solution let someone of higher authority. Stop talking and start walking. You live here you have a right to voice your opinion. Do it.
    I do believe the arguement was about IGNORANT people correct? Then thank you, you have proven my point exactly.

    An IGNORANT person won't listen to that. They will not make the smart choice. They will just fuck and do what they want simply because there is no repurcussion to not doing the right thing.

    And seriously......if you can't come up with a better solution than "Let someone of a higher authority" don't continue. Because honestly, mine at least had some ring of intelligence to it. (Not saying you aren't intelligent, i'm saying the "Higher ups" are not)

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    If you have 10 kids and you can't take care of them, you should have known after how many kids you had where you began to struggle and stop. There are so many contraceptives out there to prevent pregnancies, stop being lazy and use them. It isn't fair you are using my money and all the other hard worker's money to support your family, because you are to lazy to go out and get a real job, but yet when I try to get help I get denied, because I make to much. If you weren't taking my damn money, I would have more money to spend on my own family. Ignorant people ftl!
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