Suicide ok?

**BluesClues** · 12-20-2009, 12:14 PM

So, a friend and I got into a discussion about how they think comitting suicide is ok. They are so in love and obsessed with this one female in their life that in the past when they've broken up, he tried to kill himself as well as another friend of his when in the same situation. He seems to live in la la land and think that it has a romantic or in their words "poetic side" to it. My argument is, what's the point? What will you solve? You kill yourself, and she continues on with her life and grows old with some other man. Death is not something you can come back from. It's freakin stupid to me! I just can't possibly wrap my head around how someone can be so obsessed with another person that they would kill themselves because they can't be together. His argument is that you will never have nor love another person like your first love. So if you two can't be together, what's the point of living? If this is the case I guess widows, divorcees, anyone who had a first love, never loves their husband or wife

. What do you all think? This is stupid or is it romantic?

Discuss

**b@d @pple** · 12-20-2009, 12:15 PM

no pussy is worth your life

**Elbow** · 12-20-2009, 12:17 PM

For the sake of love and stuff, HELL NO, it's a pussy move.

If you have nobody, you're miserable, there are too many issues in your life you can't fix, then why not? If you're not even hurting anyone leaving. I wouldn't, but I could see why some may think other wise. I DON'T think it should be illegal in any case that's for sure, it's fucked up in many cases yes, but I don't think anyone has the right to say YOU CAN'T KILL YOURSELF.

I've never been the type to want to kill myself, even if shit was bad all around I still wouldn't, it's a bitch move IMO.

**roxie911** · 12-20-2009, 12:19 PM

Any case of suicide is just selfish to me. Why put your family and friends through that kind of misery for your own "happiness"? Just doesn't make sense to me.

I can be sad about someone committing suicide, but will I feel sorry for them?? Absolutely not. I'll feel more sorry for the family and friends associated with them.

**BluesClues** · 12-20-2009, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by simontibbett

For the sake of love and stuff, HELL NO, it's a pussy move.

If you have nobody, you're miserable, there are too many issues in your life you can't fix, then why not? If you're not even hurting anyone leaving. I wouldn't, but I could see why some may think other wise. I DON'T think it should be illegal in any case that's for sure, it's fucked up in many cases yes, but I don't think anyone has the right to say YOU CAN'T KILL YOURSELF.

I've never been the type to want to kill myself, even if shit was bad all around I still wouldn't, it's a bitch move IMO.

**Nemesis** · 12-20-2009, 12:20 PM

**BluesClues** · 12-20-2009, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by roxie911

Any case of suicide is just selfish to me. Why put your family and friends through that kind of misery for your own "happiness"? Just doesn't make sense to me.

I can be sad about someone committing suicide, but will I feel sorry for them?? Absolutely not. I'll feel more sorry for the family and friends associated with them.

EXACTLY

**BluesClues** · 12-20-2009, 12:26 PM

And what is so messed up about the situation is him and the girl are still not back together but because he likes to consider himself a "hopeless romantic" he WILL do ANYTHING it takes to have her back. That includes his world TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY evolving around her! He won't even spend the night at a friends house because she is a girl for the fact that if his ex finds out, she will possibly be mad. YOU TWO ARE NOT EVEN TOGETHER and no guarantee you will ever be together again! I mean everyday activities like getting a job, moving, hanging out, whatever, he has to think about how it will affect her and if they will get back together. He lives in another universe that is not ours. I've never heard someone so delusional in my life!

**Elbow** · 12-20-2009, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by roxie911

Any case of suicide is just selfish to me. Why put your family and friends through that kind of misery for your own "happiness"? Just doesn't make sense to me.

I can be sad about someone committing suicide, but will I feel sorry for them?? Absolutely not. I'll feel more sorry for the family and friends associated with them.

It is selfish, which is why I said if you wouldn't be hurting anyone sure do it, but it's still a bitch move. I've always imagined people like husbands, dads, etc committing suicide total cowards.

**roxie911** · 12-20-2009, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by simontibbett

It is selfish, which is why I said if you wouldn't be hurting anyone sure do it, but it's still a bitch move. I've always imagined people like husbands, dads, etc committing suicide total cowards.

It's a cowardly move whether you have someone or not. Anyone who can't face their problems or TRY to make their life better is a coward. Things can only get better when they're at their worst.

Once again, no sympathy for those who commit suicide.

BTW...not trying to argue...wasn't before either. Hopefully it doesn't sound that way lol

**Andr3w** · 12-20-2009, 12:38 PM

Have fun in hell

**Jason..** · 12-20-2009, 12:40 PM

Killing yourself is more difficult than you can possible imagine...I put a gun to my head last year and couldn't do it.I was at an all time low in my life..Takes a crazy person to take there on life for sure...sometimes seems like the only way out.

**punkr6** · 12-20-2009, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Jason..

Killing yourself is more difficult than you can possible imagine...I put a gun to my head last year and couldn't do it.I was at an all time low in my life..Takes a crazy person to take there on life for sure...sometimes seems like the only way out.

Damn Son, Next time your feeling low, pick up the damn phone and call me.

**BluesClues** · 12-20-2009, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by roxie911

It's a cowardly move whether you have someone or not. Anyone who can't face their problems or TRY to make their life better is a coward. Things can only get better when they're at their worst.

Once again, no sympathy for those who commit suicide.

BTW...not trying to argue...wasn't before either. Hopefully it doesn't sound that way lol

Roxie I actually agree with you. I tried arguing that point as well with him. Even though life has it's hardships, we go through those to make us a better person. Life is not easy and is not meant to be. Easy way outs are never a good thing!

**SleeperWRX** · 12-20-2009, 12:46 PM

Hell no, no bitch is worth killing myself.

**Firefightin_tC** · 12-20-2009, 12:48 PM

I love myself WAY too much for that bullshit.

And I've seen plenty of ways people have killed themselves and it still boggles my mind, because I can't understand it.

**BluesClues** · 12-20-2009, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Nismo062

Have fun in hell

I said that too! lol They don't think you go to hell for suicide. They seem to think that you go to purgatory

Like that's any better lol

**SleeperWRX** · 12-20-2009, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by BluesClues

I said that too! lol They don't think you go to hell for suicide. They seem to think that you go to purgatory

Like that's any better lol

**bdydrpdmazda** · 12-20-2009, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by roxie911

Any case of suicide is just selfish to me. Why put your family and friends through that kind of misery for your own "happiness"? Just doesn't make sense to me.

I can be sad about someone committing suicide, but will I feel sorry for them?? Absolutely not. I'll feel more sorry for the family and friends associated with them.

Originally Posted by roxie911

It's a cowardly move whether you have someone or not. Anyone who can't face their problems or TRY to make their life better is a coward. Things can only get better when they're at their worst.

Once again, no sympathy for those who commit suicide.

BTW...not trying to argue...wasn't before either. Hopefully it doesn't sound that way lol

Originally Posted by Nismo062

Have fun in hell

Originally Posted by punkr6

Damn Son, Next time your feeling low, pick up the damn phone and call me.

This...

**Jason..** · 12-20-2009, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by punkr6

Damn Son, Next time your feeling low, pick up the damn phone and call me.

Im good now lol.I never wanna be in that state of mind again....ever.BTW I sent u a raindeer.

**AdriSciontC** · 12-20-2009, 01:05 PM

I don't think it is cool, but then again I wouldn't be able to do it. I have too much to live for. If the going gets rough, suicide, IMO is the easy way out.... suck it up and move on... IT CAN ALWAYS BE WORSE...

**punkr6** · 12-20-2009, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by Jason..

Im good now lol.I never wanna be in that state of mind again....ever.BTW I sent u a raindeer.

thanks, I sent you a christmas tree.....

**Justin.** · 12-20-2009, 01:13 PM

ahh to be young and in love...What a dumb fuck, tell him to go smash something else...seems like his "hopeless romantic" ways are due to his lack of experience with other girls.

**browningboy7** · 12-20-2009, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by civicgurlie

I don't think it is cool, but then again I wouldn't be able to do it. I have too much to live for. If the going gets rough, suicide, IMO is the easy way out.... suck it up and move on... IT CAN ALWAYS BE WORSE...

I don't think that is good advice for someone who wants to kill themselves...lolol

**bdydrpdmazda** · 12-20-2009, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Jason..

BTW I sent u a raindeer.

well that was nice of you. Its a different kinda gift but I guess its the thought that counts.

**punkr6** · 12-20-2009, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by bdydrpdmazda

well that was nice of you. Its a different kinda gift but I guess its the thought that counts.

different then what fuk face ?

**bdydrpdmazda** · 12-20-2009, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by punkr6

different then what fuk face ?

a gift card or some holiday cookies...

**Elbow** · 12-20-2009, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by browningboy7

I don't think that is good advice for someone who wants to kill themselves...lolol

I do.."Shut the fuck up pussy lifes going to get a lot worse deal with it bitch."

**punkr6** · 12-20-2009, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by bdydrpdmazda

a gift card or some holiday cookies...

not an option....

**JITB** · 12-20-2009, 02:02 PM

I killed myself once.. doesnt really work.. so im against it!

**punkr6** · 12-20-2009, 02:03 PM

real men burn themselves alive...

**JITB** · 12-20-2009, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by punkr6

real men burn themselves alive...

thats what im talking about! Thats a real one way road!

**BluesClues** · 12-20-2009, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Firefightin_tC

I love myself WAY too much for that bullshit.

And I've seen plenty of ways people have killed themselves and it still boggles my mind, because I can't understand it.

I stressed that point too. How can you love someone more than yourself?

**punkr6** · 12-20-2009, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by BluesClues

I stressed that point too. How can you love someone more than yourself?

a lot of people don't like themselves.....

**teh bri** · 12-20-2009, 02:11 PM

Um, fuck no it's not.

**BluesClues** · 12-20-2009, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by punkr6

a lot of people don't like themselves.....

Def true in his situation. Sad I know

Originally Posted by punkr6

real men burn themselves alive...

LOL

Originally Posted by JITB

I killed myself once.. doesnt really work.. so im against it!

Okay

Originally Posted by Justin.

ahh to be young and in love...What a dumb fuck, tell him to go smash something else...seems like his "hopeless romantic" ways are due to his lack of experience with other girls.

QFMFT!

**JITB** · 12-20-2009, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Justin.

ahh to be young and in love...What a dumb fuck, tell him to go smash something else...seems like his "hopeless romantic" ways are due to his lack of experience with other girls.

experience wont cure crazy.. dude has problems.. he needs help..

invite him to the V so we can convince him to burn himself alive...to keep us warm!

**BluesClues** · 12-20-2009, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by JITB

experience wont cure crazy.. dude has problems.. he needs help..

invite him to the V so we can convince him to burn himself alive...to keep us warm!

Damn

**bdydrpdmazda** · 12-20-2009, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by punkr6

real men burn themselves alive...

**§treet_§peed** · 12-20-2009, 02:33 PM

It's funny how a lot of people down this and say o how bad it is etc. etc.. But yet, there are several famous movies, plays, poems, and songs that talk about this and are held at a high level by most of the world. Take Romeo and Juliet for example. The suicide ending tale of two star crossed lovers. Very famous and well know play, celebrated by millions, and taught in almost every school in the world. Many people sing a long with songs on a daily basis with or without knowing they can be talking about things from drugs, violence, rape, molestation, killing, and/or suicide. It is what it is.

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