Sure thing.Originally Posted by Njobe
Well, I love it. It doesn't hurt me in the least so I don't worry about it and have no valid reason to not like it. Later, QD.
Sure thing.
Well, I love it. It doesn't hurt me in the least so I don't worry about it and have no valid reason to not like it. Later, QD.
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I mean, i do understand your reasoning behind it as to why you have nothing against it. it can always go either way.
I remember you coming to the Sonic meets. Only reason I was using Hall County as an example of saying small towns. Is because who's to say that a cop won't twist the law a little. You know, say you were going just a little faster so they can charge you with this to make a little extra off of you. I know Hall county and places like Mayesville, Gillsville, Pendergrass, and such will stretch the truth if they feel like it.
You know better; next time will be a ban.
Ahhh. Well, you know me. I don't too much buy into the whole "all the police are out to get me" and conspiracy theory shit, so I can't really comment. Later, QD.
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i just have to say your fucking stupid. do you really think they are going to up your speed to have you fined a extra $200.. please. if you are really that close to being that super speeder. why dont you ask to see the radar/laser gun... when it still says something different, ask to see their supervisor... shit gets serious then. they get brought up to the ethics board. cops really really dont like going up to the ethics board.
The G Spot Hero
"Nitrous is like a hot girl with STDS, you know you want to hit it but your afraid of the consequences."
You haven't been to far into North Georgia have you?
You know better; next time will be a ban.
I wasn't saying cops are out to get me, but you know there are those few ass hole cops around in every town.
You know better; next time will be a ban.
but your still fucking stupid for thinking they are going to change the ticket to something higher. when you get pulled over how about it you make it the norm and ask to see the radar/laser gun. that way if your ticket comes up different then ask to see a higher up. file a complaint.... yeah your smart.
The G Spot Hero
"Nitrous is like a hot girl with STDS, you know you want to hit it but your afraid of the consequences."
I tried that once. Cop simply changed the ticket from speeding to reckless and the speed never even entered into the argument. Then claimed he saw me "weaving" on a one lane road. Such BS. Truth is, law enforcement is not out to get you, but they are out to get your money. This law is nothing more than a revenue generator, by charging higher fines. If they were concerned about people's safety, they would start first by making it tougher to get your license in the first place, and making it more difficult to re-obtain your license after suspension. They're simply increasing the fines, because an unsafe driver who gets fined will simply pay the fine to drive again only to be be continually fined and pay more. A poor driver who must go to driving school and must have his license reinstated becomes a more safe driver, does not make the state any money for these so-called infractions. Its as simple as that.
Besides, it has been statistically shown that 2.9% of all crashes are caused by excessive speed. Riiiight. Looks like someone simply didn't balance the budget
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/26/2627.asp
So who wants to organize the protest?
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Protest for what? Here's how you protest this and make it backfire. Don't "super speed." There. See how easy that is? You don't have to take time to write/type a letter. You don't have to take the time to stand in possible bad weather in front of the capitol. You don't have to see or talk to anyone. Just keep your right foot a little bit higher off the gas pedal. Later, QD.
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The Dalai Lama has spoken.
i love how people think this affects everyone. and it will affect them, it only is going to affect the people that speed. if you dont want it to affect you... dont speed.... geez you people are soooo stupid.
The G Spot Hero
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This is pretty much what I wanted to say. If you don't think that cops can...almost literally...get away with ANYTHING they want to, you have a lot to learn.
And it does happen far more often in small cities than it does urban areas. People claim it's a great source of income for the city, and that may or may not be true. I grew up in Maryville, TN....which had a population of about 13,000 - 16,000 people in it when I lived there. After moving to Atlanta, I was so amazed at how "relaxed" things were as far as law enforcement and management at businesses. The fact of the matter is, people that grow up in small towns are often times far less informed than people around big cities, and can be easily jerked about by people with authority, because they literally don't know any better. I was in my friend's Mustang one time when I was younger when he got pulled over while driving at 35mph. The cop came up, yelling at him, told him he was doing 50mph, and my friend said "No I wasn't, can I see your radar gun?" The cop LITERALLY said "It's not on my gun, I didn't need it...I could tell you were doing 45 - 50." My jaw dropped. After asking around about this situation, I found out that cops actually CAN legally do that....because they are "trained" to judge speed, so they can convict people WITHOUT having any type of speed documented on their laser or radar gun.
For the people saying "Oh, it's simple....just don't be a super speeder, duh!!" Well that DOES NOT make this change of law something that should be acceptable. If you only care about the changes to politics and law enforcement that ONLY pertain to you, then you are a pretty selfish person.
Would you be ok if they started fining Muslims, if you are Christian? Do you think it's ok for gay people to not get married, because you are straight and the law will never affect you? I could go on and on about certain things that are "issues" in our society that have no bearing on my personal life (and probably most of you guys as well), but that doesn't mean it's "ok" to make and enforce these laws....just because I personally will never be affected by it.
If you do the research to find what are ACTUALLY the highest risk for traffic fatalities, and compare that list to the amount of money, time, and new laws that are created to alleviate these problems, you'll understand that nobody gives a SHIT about safety, but speeding is by far the easiest way to suck money out of commuters.
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One big difference, dude, in your theory. This new add on is for a an already established criminal offense. So making an already criminal offense a little more sever is cool to me. The two examples you gave are not even remotely laws, let alone criminal offenses. Gay couples can either get married or they can't. The first example I really didn't get, lolol, so I can't comment. But you see what I'm saying? Just like burglary. If they decided this year to make it a mandatory 50 years for third offender burglars, I wouldn't care. I'm not a burglar. It's already a crime that they are just stiffening penalties for. Later, QD.
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this should be posted for all them guys doin hwy runs after moreland avenue goin more than 100 mph and stopin at 20 mph in the middle of the fukin hwy
Making an already criminal infraction more severe is cool. Till, you are wrongfully acussed. It does happen.
Shits real out here. You betta keep a strap and learn somethin'.
Ok. I guess you were aiming for a point? You're either wrongfully accused or your not. It doesn't matter the severity of the crime. Later, QD.
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I thought I made my point. But, just in case I need to be clear. Here is an example. You are the safest driver in the world. You follow all traffic laws and rules of safe driving. One evening on your way home a minivan with a family is speeding down the road. They run a four way stop sign hit you and everyone in the minivan is killed. Now, a law that doesn't affect you because you are a safe driver was passed. And you are OK with this law because it is already criminal and you don't break the law ever. This new law states that if you are found guilty of vehicular homicide you will get the death penalty. Well, it just so happens that you are found to be the guilty party in the accident which kills an entire family. You are sentenced the death penalty. Your sentence is OK because you shouldn't have broken the law and when you break the law you pay the price. Whether it's the death penalty or $200. Right?
Shits real out here. You betta keep a strap and learn somethin'.
Thank you for making it more clear, but in this instance, I believe that an investigation into the accident will prove that I wouldn't not be the guilty party. That's kind of stretching it a bit. But I see what you're getting at. That could be said for my burglary suspect. What if I'm the one that gets found guilty and I had nothing to do with it? My example wasn't very good, but it was a much better example the ones given by MY MAN LANKHOSS (lolol). I guess I can look the criminal act of speeding as a "cut and dry" case. You either are or you aren't. This is an act observed by police. So there is no mistaken identity. Later, QD.
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Probably right, but I was just trying to give a for instance and conclusion that wasn't favorable and was after an investigation.
And yes speeding is cut dry, but I hate that someone can tell you that they just know you were speeding instead of having to have the device to read your speed. I know that in most cases though that they do have a laser to read a person's speed.
Good points QD..+10
Shits real out here. You betta keep a strap and learn somethin'.
ever heard of the bill of rights. specifically the eight amendment. you know cruel and unusual punishment. geez you people are stupid.
The G Spot Hero
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Making a point which was understood. May have been a little extreme but QD did understand. Thank you sir for your comment this new year. Also, did you read everything? I even clearified after the fact.
Shits real out here. You betta keep a strap and learn somethin'.
This is a horrid example. What does the sentence have to be with being wrongfully convicted? You dont automaticly become not guilty if the sentence is reduced.
I usually try to use a very extreme example to get my point across.
I find that speeding is such a gray area, because it's only a "crime" SIMPLY because a law states you're not supposed to be doing it. There really isn't any FACTUAL evidence that backs up the need for speed limits. American highways have always suffered higher fatalities per year than the Autobahn does, and people are doing over 150mph on that highway on a daily basis. If I steal, there's no argument...the crime was committed. There was something that somebody else owned, and now I own it without there being a legal transaction. If I kill someone, they are dead...period. Speeding, on the other hand.......isn't actually "criminal" until it becomes the cause of an accident. If I am doing 100mph on I-285 with no other traffic around, I'm not ACTUALLY committing a crime....other than the fact that there's a rule that says I shouldn't do that. You take into account that traffic violations can be so easily jacked up depending on who your judge, cop, prosecutor, etc are.......that it does infuriate me to see a statewide un-constitutional ammendment that will simply make more money for those who pocket the fines.
It's such a crooked and inconsistent system to begin with, and it does make me mad to see it become even MORE corrupt.
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Being that you can be arrested for speeding, I believe it is considered a criminal act. I would think so anyway, but...... lolol.
I see what you mean and understand what you're saying completely. I can't argue your points. But as crooked as the system is (using your words because I don't know), it's one we have to live in until it is changed by whomever. So that's what I do. I abide by the rules that are given out to me. This isn't a law that is a personal invasion of privacy, so I don't worry about it. Therefore I don't worry about the higher fines associated with it.
I will agree with you, though, that I hate to see the country in about 10-20 years. It almost makes me sad to have brought children into this world with the way it shaping up. I hate to think of what they will be inheriting from us. Later, QD.
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I think this is why you and I disagree on subjects like this. You trust that the system is just, and.....I just don't believe it is. It's all up to interpretation, and the mood of the prosecuting side. If it was much more consistant, I might lean more towards your side. When I start hearing on a normal basis, that when "A Person broke B law and got C punishment" no questions, deviations, or anything else.......then I'll have more faith in the system. But it doesn't work that way, and adding harsher punishments to crimes only adds more possible corrupt actions for the enforcement side.
The fact that I have yet to see any conclusive evidence that proves we need a speed limit in the first place, makes me even more frustrated with the political side of this specific subject.
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I won't necessarily say (and I never have said) that the system is just and fair. I know it's not. I just didn't grow up questioning things and rebellious. I learned to obey the laws I was given and did/do so. In return, I've never had run ins with the law (other than traffic stops), nor have a I ever had a bad experience with any LEOs. And because of all that is why I say "I don't know" from a personal level. I've gown up a happy person. Happy with what I have and what I do. Never had a government induced reason not to be. I guess that's why I feel the way I do.
But I do agree that there are lots of issues that could really be worked on. We can agree there, buddy.
I do think that without a speed limit AT ALL, there would be complete chaos on the road. I could see certain interstates not having speed limits in certain parts, but abolishing all speed limits everywhere would be a disaster.
BTW, +94 for the good discussion. Later, QD.
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I did 105 on a 35 to celebrate the super speeder law yesterday.
FUCK THAT SHIT, its all about money. Safety my ass!
I can see how you view things like these, as if you've been able to live your life happily while never having run ins with law enforcement, that unless there was some sort of blatant abuse law enforcement was getting away with, it wouldn't really be much of an issue to you. I used to actually feel the same way when I was younger. Believe it or not, aside from traffic tickets I've never had problems with the law. So I used to get annoyed by people I knew who hated cops and complained about them all the time. Ironically enough, it always seemed liked the bigger the trouble makers they were, the worse they hated law enforcement.....go figure.
I still don't have problems with cops, and actually have more good stories about personal interactions with cops than bad ones. My issue isn't really the cops themselves though, but the system. Even when cops do behave inappropriately....I often times rarely blame them personally, as when you take a corrupt system and give people a lot of power within it....it is designed to be abused, and most certainly will be.
So in situations like this, I get more angry at the system, rather than the people involved with it. If there was a big story about a cop who badly mistreated a civilian.....I probably wouldn't be to upset about that, as that is a reaction to something. But when I see a big change to the system itself (which allows, and in ways motivates this kind of behavior) which only damages civilians while giving them MORE power to abuse, I get upset.
I know it does me no good to get worked up over things I can't control, but I can't help that I feel the way I do. At some point, this WILL affect me...one way or another (I do BELIEVE that, although I may not be able to prove it). I know you don't feel the same way, and in this discussion where we disagree, I actually envy your stance on it. ha ha
Thanks for the reps, I enjoy being able to have a civil discussion with someone that has opposing views.
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No, lolol, I never got away with anything before. I have literally never stolen anything, done any form of drug or done anything (aside from minor traffic violations) to be accosted by police.
Lolol. You say that like I'm the young one here. I have 8 years on you, Son, lolol.
Lolol, cool. And yes. See I used to get all bull-headed with name calling and all that shit. It's easier to just have rational discussions about things. That way we can both understand the other's point of view. Later, QD.I actually envy your stance on it. ha ha
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Let me rephrase...I like this law because Im sick and tired of hearing people being killed of someone else's stupidity. Though I gripe more about people who go below 5-10 below the speed limit. Even when the conditions are fine meaning no rain no nothing. Peachtree Industrial at 8 AM, 2 lanes blocked because two people thought it would be wonderful to go 45 in a 55.
Yes, but I'd rather see the law repealed. Virginia did something similar to its citizens and after 3 months, they sued the state for unfair treatment of its citizens, which caused the law to be repealed. The super speeder law is simply to make money in the supposed name of safety, and it probably will save a few lives, but the law is misplaced justice to simply make a politician look good.
Louisiana passed similar legislation back in 07, which will probably do a bit more for safety. The rolling roadblock law. Those who are caught lingering in the left lane, impeding traffic will receive a $175 ticket. This will generate the money needed AND improve traffic for citizens as well as safety.
https://www.truckflix.com/news_article.php?newsid=1343
Having a potential $400 fine for being 15mph over the limit in some areas is crazy. Maybe 90mph+ would make sense, and certainly in residential areas it is understandable as others have said, but it is unnecessarily heavy handed and purely written to make money. Police officers are enforcers of the law; not armed tax collectors.
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Again. Don't speed. Problem solved. Government isn't making that extra money you say they are after. To me it just seems easier to not speed than to complain about it. Later, QD.
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I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I'm forming a petition.
My car is factory....
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As long as you do something, I see nothing wrong with your complaining. It's complainers who don't do shit that suck. Props to you. Later, QD.
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Sorry for the late response, I haven't been on here for a bit.
I think you misunderstood my statement, and after reading that horrible run-on sentence I understand why ;-) What I meant was, I can see how law enforcement wouldn't "bother" you unless THEY got away with blatant abuse that would personally affect you.
And I know you are older than me, I was just saying that at a different point in my life I completely agreed with you, but I do see things differently now.
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I understand that, man.
Lolol. And I understand this as well, now. We'll just see how it goes down the road.
Later, QD.
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